Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

So among all the other things that you deny, is that your religion makes you communist/socialist...
Communism and socialism are the antithesis of diversity. God loves diversity.

Really? Why does he want genocide and kill off other religions? And how many black or female popes have there been? Diversity? That's a joke...

The same thing that you use to slur us... :)
I am glad you see being a socialist and a communist as a slur. Maybe you are just a dupe.
I don't see it as a slur. You MEAN IT as a slur. But I'm not either, so you're not insulting me.

God's economy should not be capitalism.
I guess you aren’t just a dupe after all. :rofl:
God, nor Jesus, would implement an economy that promotes extreme wealth and extreme poverty. Not if they're "good" beings.

However I like capitalism. Which further shows I don't believe in God...
thanks for proving my point.
Capitalism has its good points, though it could use some communist ideas to not have the extremes.

So where are you at with your religious/economic ideas? Communist or Capitalist? Feed the poor, or feed those who can afford it?

Answer carefully...
Free enterprise and steward. I can do both.
Here's where I agree with you, and why I prefer capitalism. I can also do both. But we can't feed everyone that needs it without a worldwide commitment. I think Jesus would have made our economies all communist so we could share our fruitfulness equally. Based on my ideals of Jesus. I understand the impossibility of it, but if they have supreme power, they can make it be. But God/Jesus chose not to, and to allow suffering of innocents. Even if they believe.

But I don't believe they were supernatural beings, they are not all-powerful, and they cannot stop human greed from ruining something as potentially good as communism. Socialism sucks, my parents lived under it. So capitalism is the next best thing.

If God made our world so perfectly, with such delicate balance, how can he introduce or allow humans to fuck it all up? In his name?
 
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I think, if he exists, he doesn't give a shit.. He's moved on to other things.

So therefore, nothing to worship. Nothing to kill for. Let's all get together to help us survive, bc he ain't helping.
 
Really? Why does he want genocide and kill off other religions? And how many black or female popes have there been? Diversity? That's a joke...
First of all that’s a false question. And secondly what man does has no bearing on God. God loves diversity. All you have to do is to study the natural world to know that.

I don't see it as a slur. You MEAN IT as a slur. But I'm not either, so you're not insulting me
Yes it is a slur because socialism is evil, Roy.
God, nor Jesus, would implement an economy that promotes extreme wealth and extreme poverty. Not if they're "good" beings.
You don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good.
Capitalism has its good points, though it could use some communist ideas to not have the extremes.
Free enterprise is the natural order, Roy. Competition is good. Communism is pure evil.
Here's where I agree with you, and why I prefer capitalism. I can also do both. But we can't feed everyone that needs it without a worldwide commitment. I think Jesus would have made our economies all communist so we could share our fruitfulness equally. Based on my ideals of Jesus. I understand the impossibility of it, but if they have supreme power, they can make it be. But God/Jesus chose not to, and to allow suffering of innocents. Even if they believe.

But I don't believe they were supernatural beings, they are not all-powerful, and they cannot stop human greed from ruining something as potentially good as communism. Socialism sucks, my parents lived under it. So capitalism is the next best thing.

If God made our world so perfectly, with such delicate balance, how can he introduce or allow humans to fuck it all up? In his name?
Again, you don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good
 
I think, if he exists, he doesn't give a shit.. He's moved on to other things.

So therefore, nothing to worship. Nothing to kill for. Let's all get together to help us survive, bc he ain't helping.
Totally wrong, Roy. He cares because he is progressing us. You’d progress much faster if you didn’t fight him.
 
Really? Why does he want genocide and kill off other religions? And how many black or female popes have there been? Diversity? That's a joke...
First of all that’s a false question. And secondly what man does has no bearing on God. God loves diversity. All you have to do is to study the natural world to know that.

I don't see it as a slur. You MEAN IT as a slur. But I'm not either, so you're not insulting me
Yes it is a slur because socialism is evil, Roy.
God, nor Jesus, would implement an economy that promotes extreme wealth and extreme poverty. Not if they're "good" beings.
You don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good.
Capitalism has its good points, though it could use some communist ideas to not have the extremes.
Free enterprise is the natural order, Roy. Competition is good. Communism is pure evil.
Here's where I agree with you, and why I prefer capitalism. I can also do both. But we can't feed everyone that needs it without a worldwide commitment. I think Jesus would have made our economies all communist so we could share our fruitfulness equally. Based on my ideals of Jesus. I understand the impossibility of it, but if they have supreme power, they can make it be. But God/Jesus chose not to, and to allow suffering of innocents. Even if they believe.

But I don't believe they were supernatural beings, they are not all-powerful, and they cannot stop human greed from ruining something as potentially good as communism. Socialism sucks, my parents lived under it. So capitalism is the next best thing.

If God made our world so perfectly, with such delicate balance, how can he introduce or allow humans to fuck it all up? In his name?
Again, you don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good
All these answers are you making excuses for God's errors, in that he meant it for a better reason that we're not aware of.

OK, if that's the case, give us a clue... Tsunami's, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, disease... these are all things that he creates without human fault, humans don't create those. And it kills millions of innocent people and innocent animals, most of which love him (well maybe not the animals). Causes insufferable pain for the families, and of course the victims... They did nothing to deserve it.

But he loves us? And we love and worship him?

And then, he allows all these humans who believe in him to kill each other over how they worship him.

C'mon seriously, wake up. I know you won't but there is no way your religions can defy logic, without just making things up and abandoning logic. It's like believing that Santa Claus is real.

And I know that you're going to say that "duh Santa was invented by humans...". So to cut to the chase... so was god.
 
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Really? Why does he want genocide and kill off other religions? And how many black or female popes have there been? Diversity? That's a joke...
First of all that’s a false question. And secondly what man does has no bearing on God. God loves diversity. All you have to do is to study the natural world to know that.

I don't see it as a slur. You MEAN IT as a slur. But I'm not either, so you're not insulting me
Yes it is a slur because socialism is evil, Roy.
God, nor Jesus, would implement an economy that promotes extreme wealth and extreme poverty. Not if they're "good" beings.
You don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good.
Capitalism has its good points, though it could use some communist ideas to not have the extremes.
Free enterprise is the natural order, Roy. Competition is good. Communism is pure evil.
Here's where I agree with you, and why I prefer capitalism. I can also do both. But we can't feed everyone that needs it without a worldwide commitment. I think Jesus would have made our economies all communist so we could share our fruitfulness equally. Based on my ideals of Jesus. I understand the impossibility of it, but if they have supreme power, they can make it be. But God/Jesus chose not to, and to allow suffering of innocents. Even if they believe.

But I don't believe they were supernatural beings, they are not all-powerful, and they cannot stop human greed from ruining something as potentially good as communism. Socialism sucks, my parents lived under it. So capitalism is the next best thing.

If God made our world so perfectly, with such delicate balance, how can he introduce or allow humans to fuck it all up? In his name?
Again, you don’t have perfect or complete knowledge, Roy. God does. So you don’t see how everything works for good
All these answers are you making excuses for God's errors, in that he meant it for a better reason that we're not aware of.

OK, if that's the case, give us a clue... Tsunami's, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, disease... these are all things that he creates without human fault, humans don't create those. And it kills millions of innocent people and innocent animals, most of which love him (well maybe not the animals). Causes insufferable pain for the families, and of course the victims... They did nothing to deserve it.

But he loves us? And we love and worship him?

And then, he allows all these humans who believe in him to kill each other over how they worship him.

C'mon seriously, wake up. I know you won't but there is no way your religions can defy logic, without just making things up and abandoning logic. It's like believing that Santa Claus is real.
What errors? You don’t have complete knowledge so you can’t make that call.

but are you telling me you don’t want the good and the bad? What fun would that be?
 
C'mon seriously, wake up. I know you won't but there is no way your religions can defy logic, without just making things up and abandoning logic. It's like believing that Santa Claus is real.
If you believe that God can only exist if your world is perfect, you don’t have any logic.

where ever did you get this silly notion from?

and you don’t believe you believe in Santa clause.
 
OK, if that's the case, give us a clue... Tsunami's, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, disease... these are all things that he creates without human fault, humans don't create those. And it kills millions of innocent people and innocent animals, most of which love him (well maybe not the animals). Causes insufferable pain for the families, and of course the victims... They did nothing to deserve it.
Don’t forget male pattern baldness. He allows that too.
 
Male pattern baldness is probably due to climate change which we are responsible for... :)
 
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Bc a good "God" would never allow that. But religions follow human laws.

People that have faith should not follow those laws, and do what their ideal should do. And that's faith. And it requires dropping the human rulers and their religion.
You don’t have perfect knowledge. So you can’t see how things are connected.

seems like you are proposing anarchy. I suggest you read Locke.
Here's your initial reference to Locke.

Tell me why it's relevant.


Good lord how uneducated is the person who hasnt read Locke. And yes you would know the relevance had you read him.
 
A Catholic society run by the people would be a Communist society. They would all be equal and share. Unless they need human rulers, who will take advantage of them... And then it would become a Socialist society.

I name Christianity as fascist.

fascism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]
NOUN
  1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
    synonyms:
    authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · Nazism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · racism · anti-Semitism
I call Christianity a fascist religion.

The Vatican was Hitler's bank for a reason.

Strange how we forgive Christianity while condemning Hitler.

Regards
DL
 
Bc a good "God" would never allow that. But religions follow human laws.

People that have faith should not follow those laws, and do what their ideal should do. And that's faith. And it requires dropping the human rulers and their religion.
You don’t have perfect knowledge. So you can’t see how things are connected.

seems like you are proposing anarchy. I suggest you read Locke.
Here's your initial reference to Locke.

Tell me why it's relevant.


Good lord how uneducated is the person who hasnt read Locke. And yes you would know the relevance had you read him.
Tell me why it's relevant since you seem so sure.
 
Bc a good "God" would never allow that. But religions follow human laws.

People that have faith should not follow those laws, and do what their ideal should do. And that's faith. And it requires dropping the human rulers and their religion.
You don’t have perfect knowledge. So you can’t see how things are connected.

seems like you are proposing anarchy. I suggest you read Locke.
Here's your initial reference to Locke.

Tell me why it's relevant.


Good lord how uneducated is the person who hasnt read Locke. And yes you would know the relevance had you read him.
Tell me why it's relevant since you seem so sure.
It’s relevant because otherwise there would be no standing to overturn bad government or bad laws.

it is literally the basis of freedom and liberty.
 
Bc a good "God" would never allow that. But religions follow human laws.

People that have faith should not follow those laws, and do what their ideal should do. And that's faith. And it requires dropping the human rulers and their religion.
You don’t have perfect knowledge. So you can’t see how things are connected.

seems like you are proposing anarchy. I suggest you read Locke.
Here's your initial reference to Locke.

Tell me why it's relevant.


Good lord how uneducated is the person who hasnt read Locke. And yes you would know the relevance had you read him.
Tell me why it's relevant since you seem so sure.
It’s relevant because otherwise there would be no standing to overturn bad government or bad laws.

it is literally the basis of freedom and liberty.
Bullshit, show me how
 
John Locke - Wikipedia

Tell me how this helps me, rather than another religious fanatic like you?
Who said I’m a religious fanatic?

have you seen me attacking other people’s religion like you?

Locke’s beliefs are independent of anyone’s perception of God. Except of course yours. You have no final authority. Your final authority is man. You are shit out of luck when it comes to standing for overthrowing bad governments and bad laws.
 
We have bad government and bad laws right now.

Maybe what he said is to free yourself from religion, and make a logical choice
 
You don’t have perfect knowledge. So you can’t see how things are connected.

seems like you are proposing anarchy. I suggest you read Locke.
Here's your initial reference to Locke.

Tell me why it's relevant.


Good lord how uneducated is the person who hasnt read Locke. And yes you would know the relevance had you read him.
Tell me why it's relevant since you seem so sure.
It’s relevant because otherwise there would be no standing to overturn bad government or bad laws.

it is literally the basis of freedom and liberty.
Bullshit, show me how
Read Locke and tell me how it’s not.
 

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