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We all know right from wrong. It doesn't need a religion. Humans have been around for over 200,000 years, and we have survived the harshest climates, including an ice age. They did that without religion.Not exactly. Morals and ethics are based upon reason. Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a reason. When we deviate from this standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the reason the standard exists will be discovered. The reason this happens is because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail and the truth will be discovered. Thus proving that morals cannot be anything we want them to be but are indeed based upon some universal code of common decency that is independent of man.So reason is like morals and values and ethics.
Also wrong. Again, for any organization there will be a distribution. You are ignoring the good. Your view of history and religion is unbalanced. You are literally proving my point about subjectivity.Just doesn't exist in militant religions like the trilogy religions... All you know revolves around killing others and genocide. That's how you got where you are today.
Yes, you are wrong.Am I wrong? The purpose of religion throughout history is to create followers and armies. To make money and power for the rulers.like I said before...The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. In a logical universe every cause has an effect which means it happens for a reason and serves some purpose. Now you may not agree with the purpose it served but that purpose has a knock on effect as does that knock on effect. You do not have perfect knowledge so you can’t see or even understand how it works for good. Which is why you keep seeing things emotionally instead of objectively. Which is how you end up making ridiculous arguments like “Purpose is what religions do with it to fool us. Because the only purpose is to fight for them. To help them get more powerful.”Reason is the physical law. Purpose is what religions do with it to fool us. Because the only purpose is to fight for them. To help them get more powerful.Let's talk about logic.Umm... Evolution? Science? Logic?Which subsequent discoveries?
And how does that change your problem that you have no standing to override bad governments? It doesn’t. You are shit out of luck.
If we examine the physical laws we discover that we live in a logical universe governed by rules, laws and information. Rules laws and information are a signs of intelligence. Intentionality and purpose are signs of intelligence. The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. The consequence of a logical universe is that every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.
Can you be more emotional?
It's not emotional, it's fact. You're the one emotional about it because it breaks your heart to know you've been worshipping something evil all your life.
You don’t know anything about science or logic.I like Buddhism. But I have no reason to change just because I would like to believe in something. I'm ok with what I have. And that's science and logic.If you were a Buddhist, you wouldn't be arguing against someone else's religion or faith. So you becoming a Buddhist would be an improvement over your being a militant atheist.So if you really want reason, and morals, and ethics, and values, you should try something else.
I recommend Buddhism.
Darwin says otherwise.Your religion exists because they killed and tortured those who didn't believe. Converted the ones who didn't want to die, and the rest after were born that way. What a way for a religion to roll...Not exactly. Morals and ethics are based upon reason. Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a reason. When we deviate from this standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the reason the standard exists will be discovered. The reason this happens is because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail and the truth will be discovered. Thus proving that morals cannot be anything we want them to be but are indeed based upon some universal code of common decency that is independent of man.So reason is like morals and values and ethics.
wereJust doesn't exist in militant religions like the trilogy religions... All you know revolves around killing others and genocide. That's how you got where you are today.
Also wrong. Again, for any organization there will be a distribution. You are ignoring the good. Your view of history and religion is unbalanced. You are literally proving my point about subjectivity.
Judaism and Islam did the same.
Hindi religion is just as bad.
Which leaves Buddhism as the only hope for good among "major" religions.
And you don’t think you are being emotional.And you religious folk are going to work on telling me that it's bullshit...
It's reality.
If you believe everyone knows right from wrong then why do so many people do wrong?We all know right from wrong. It doesn't need a religion. Humans have been around for over 200,000 years, and we have survived the harshest climates, including an ice age. They did that without religion.Not exactly. Morals and ethics are based upon reason. Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a reason. When we deviate from this standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the reason the standard exists will be discovered. The reason this happens is because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail and the truth will be discovered. Thus proving that morals cannot be anything we want them to be but are indeed based upon some universal code of common decency that is independent of man.So reason is like morals and values and ethics.
Also wrong. Again, for any organization there will be a distribution. You are ignoring the good. Your view of history and religion is unbalanced. You are literally proving my point about subjectivity.Just doesn't exist in militant religions like the trilogy religions... All you know revolves around killing others and genocide. That's how you got where you are today.
All mammals help each other without believing in Santa Claus.
So you believe the reason people do wrong is because of religion?It's the Santa Claus religions that fucked us up. And told us to kill each other rather than help each other.
Weren’t there a few nations that abolished religion? So if religion is the root cause of all evil wouldn’t you have expected the nations that abolished religion to have been peaceful?And you religious folk are going to work on telling me that it's bullshit...
It's reality.
So you believe the reason people do wrong is because of religion?It's the Santa Claus religions that fucked us up. And told us to kill each other rather than help each other.
I think it’s a convenient excuse.So you believe the reason people do wrong is because of religion?It's the Santa Claus religions that fucked us up. And told us to kill each other rather than help each other.
In many cases that is true. Christendom has the most violent history since violence entered apostate Christians and increased during the dark ages. That is ironic because Jesus taught us to love our enemies, which is one reason Jehovah's Witnesses do not go to war. (Matthew 5:44)
And Jesus was a Jew - he just rejected many of the man-made traditions of his day.
The United States Holocaust Museum in Washington D. C. has much documentation of our peaceful stand until Nazi rule - see:
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Ditto with love and half the other emotions for the beginning of your critique, but only a fool would say they do not exist in the real world.Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?
“hate” is a man made up term that falsely tries to express a human emotion that does not exist in the real world.
We all know right from wrong. It doesn't need a religion. Humans have been around for over 200,000 years, and we have survived the harshest climates, including an ice age. They did that without religion.Not exactly. Morals and ethics are based upon reason. Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a reason. When we deviate from this standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the reason the standard exists will be discovered. The reason this happens is because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail and the truth will be discovered. Thus proving that morals cannot be anything we want them to be but are indeed based upon some universal code of common decency that is independent of man.So reason is like morals and values and ethics.
Also wrong. Again, for any organization there will be a distribution. You are ignoring the good. Your view of history and religion is unbalanced. You are literally proving my point about subjectivity.Just doesn't exist in militant religions like the trilogy religions... All you know revolves around killing others and genocide. That's how you got where you are today.
All mammals help each other without believing in Santa Claus.
Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?
The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.
Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.
Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.
Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.
Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.
Jesus was a Jew.
Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?
Regards
DL
Jews are God’s chosen. Satan must attack them.Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?
The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.
Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.
Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.
Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.
Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.
Jesus was a Jew.
Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?
Regards
DL
This religious zealotry is not helpful. That's moving in the wroooooong direction.Jews are God’s chosen. Satan must attack them.
1% of the world.
Tiny strip of sand.
Anyone attacking Jews are driven by demons, no matter what they pretend to be.
