Jihadists seize nuclear materials in Iraq?

[Theowl32]

Jihadists seize nuclear materials in Iraq | New York Post

Jihadi insurgents rampaging across Iraq have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research from a university in the country’s north.

Iraq sent an urgent letter to the United Nations appealing for help to “stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad.”

Nearly 88 pounds of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University, Iraq’s UN ambassador told UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in the letter *obtained on Wednesday.

“Terrorist groups have seized control of nuclear material at the sites that came out of the control of the state,” Mohamed Ali Alhakim wrote, adding that such materials “can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction.”

“These nuclear materials, despite the limited amounts mentioned, can enable terrorist groups, with the availability of the required expertise, to use it separate or in combination with other materials in its terrorist acts,” said Alhakim.

A US government source familiar with the matter said the materials were not believed to be enriched uranium and therefore would be difficult to manufacture into a weapon. A UN atomic agency said Thursday it believed the material seized was “low grade” and did not pose a significant security threat.

Meanwhile, Jihadi fighters wielding sledgehammers destroyed centuries-old tombs in Iraq — *including one said to belong to the biblical Prophet Jonah, video revealed Wednesday.


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Yeah, probably nothing to this story. What a disaster of a president.

 

[Sunni Man]

Oh my!!.......what shall we do?? ..

 

[Taz]

A pre-emptive nuclear strike is in order. They want to go back to the twelfth century. We'd just be helping them.



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[Sunni Man]

No doubt.......

 

[Indofred]

Oh my!!.......what shall we do?? ..

WMD in Iraq - maybe America should invade.

 

[Peach]

Oh my!!.......what shall we do?? ..

WMD in Iraq - maybe America should invade.

Why wasn't any material to make WMDs or nuclear "dirty bombs" removed after the invasion? That was the stated reason FOR the invasion.

 

[Sunni Man]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

 

[JimH52]

Every country in the world has "nuclear materials used for scientific research", Get a grip....

 

[Theowl32]

Apparently, the usual suspects see nothing wrong with the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Nothing wrong at all.

Remember, the same group who said Bush and Cheney organized 911 for oil, said terrorism was a bumper sticker myth, then cheered when Obama killed supposedly killed bin laden, killed the bumper sticker mythical terrorists, and then bough the notion that al qaeda was on the run.

Other than the destruction of capitalism and the American constitution, what do liberals like JimH stand for?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Apparently, the usual suspects see nothing wrong with the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Nothing wrong at all.

Remember, the same group who said Bush and Cheney organized 911 for oil, said terrorism was a bumper sticker myth, then cheered when Obama killed supposedly killed bin laden, killed the bumper sticker mythical terrorists, and then bough the notion that al qaeda was on the run.

Other than the destruction of capitalism and the American constitution, what do liberals like JimH stand for?

Seriously?

You are worried that terrorists will kidnap you and take endless x-rays of you in an attempt to kill you?

 

[Peach]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

I could not imagine a President lying about reasons for a war that took the lives od 4,486 US soldiers, anywhere from 103,000-295,000 Iraqis, and thousands of other "coalition" deaths. The number of maimed isn't calcuable. I believed Saddam must have had something that could threaten the US, no President would send US troops to die without a reason, and spend 1.7 TRILLION*.

*The cost rises as medical, living, and other expenses for the wounded continue on.

 

[Theowl32]

Apparently, the usual suspects see nothing wrong with the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Nothing wrong at all.

Remember, the same group who said Bush and Cheney organized 911 for oil, said terrorism was a bumper sticker myth, then cheered when Obama killed supposedly killed bin laden, killed the bumper sticker mythical terrorists, and then bough the notion that al qaeda was on the run.

Other than the destruction of capitalism and the American constitution, what do liberals like JimH stand for?

Seriously?

You are worried that terrorists will kidnap you and take endless x-rays of you in an attempt to kill you?

Yeap, liberals folks. The same ones that said terrorism is a bumper sticker myth, who said 911 was organized by Bush and Cheney for oil, who then cheered when Obama supposedly killed bin laden (who they had claimed did not do 911), cheered when obama killed the mythical terrorists with drones, and believed him when he said al qaeda is on the run, has no concerns over jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Yeap.

Liberals folks.

 

[Peach]

Apparently, the usual suspects see nothing wrong with the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Nothing wrong at all.

Remember, the same group who said Bush and Cheney organized 911 for oil, said terrorism was a bumper sticker myth, then cheered when Obama killed supposedly killed bin laden, killed the bumper sticker mythical terrorists, and then bough the notion that al qaeda was on the run.

Other than the destruction of capitalism and the American constitution, what do liberals like JimH stand for?

Seriously?

You are worried that terrorists will kidnap you and take endless x-rays of you in an attempt to kill you?

Yeap, liberals folks. The same ones that said terrorism is a bumper sticker myth, who said 911 was organized by Bush and Cheney for oil, who then cheered when Obama supposedly killed bin laden (who they had claimed did not do 911), cheered when obama killed the mythical terrorists with drones, and believed him when he said al qaeda is on the run, has no concerns over jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Yeap.

Liberals folks.

My question stands, this was the reason for the war, to remove such material from the alleged co conspirator of 9/11/01. Why wasn't it done?

 

[Theowl32]

Apparently, the liberals blame Bush for the jihadists getting the nuclear material that was not suppose to be there.

 

[Sunni Man]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

I could not imagine a President lying about reasons for a war that took the lives od 4,486 US soldiers, anywhere from 103,000-295,000 Iraqis, and thousands of other "coalition" deaths. The number of maimed isn't calcuable. I believed Saddam must have had something that could threaten the US, no President would send US troops to die without a reason, and spend 1.7 TRILLION*.

You are soo naive.

It's now known that Pres. Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident in order to get the U.S. into the Vietnam War.

Which resulted in the deaths of 58,000 American soldiers. .

 

[Derideo_Te]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

I could not imagine a President lying about reasons for a war that took the lives od 4,486 US soldiers, anywhere from 103,000-295,000 Iraqis, and thousands of other "coalition" deaths. The number of maimed isn't calcuable. I believed Saddam must have had something that could threaten the US, no President would send US troops to die without a reason, and spend 1.7 TRILLION*.

*The cost rises as medical, living, and other expenses for the wounded continue on.

And yet it actually happened!

To be fair he had a great deal of help from a bunch of other liars. In fact there is a case to be made that he too, was duped by the liars around him.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Apparently, the usual suspects see nothing wrong with the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Nothing wrong at all.

Remember, the same group who said Bush and Cheney organized 911 for oil, said terrorism was a bumper sticker myth, then cheered when Obama killed supposedly killed bin laden, killed the bumper sticker mythical terrorists, and then bough the notion that al qaeda was on the run.

Other than the destruction of capitalism and the American constitution, what do liberals like JimH stand for?

Seriously?

You are worried that terrorists will kidnap you and take endless x-rays of you in an attempt to kill you?

Yeap, liberals folks. The same ones that said terrorism is a bumper sticker myth, who said 911 was organized by Bush and Cheney for oil, who then cheered when Obama supposedly killed bin laden (who they had claimed did not do 911), cheered when obama killed the mythical terrorists with drones, and believed him when he said al qaeda is on the run, has no concerns over jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Yeap.

Liberals folks.

Would you like to try that again? This time after you have had a cup of coffee and had a chance to form rational thoughts first?

According to your own OP these are medical grade supplies. You do know that you can find these same supplies at your local dentist just down the road from you?

No, I don't think you do!

 

[Derideo_Te]

Seriously?

You are worried that terrorists will kidnap you and take endless x-rays of you in an attempt to kill you?

Yeap, liberals folks. The same ones that said terrorism is a bumper sticker myth, who said 911 was organized by Bush and Cheney for oil, who then cheered when Obama supposedly killed bin laden (who they had claimed did not do 911), cheered when obama killed the mythical terrorists with drones, and believed him when he said al qaeda is on the run, has no concerns over jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material.

Yeap.

Liberals folks.

My question stands, this was the reason for the war, to remove such material from the alleged co conspirator of 9/11/01. Why wasn't it done?

Because these are basic MEDICAL SUPPLIES for things like x-rays as opposed to what is needed for WMD's.

 

[Theowl32]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

I could not imagine a President lying about reasons for a war that took the lives od 4,486 US soldiers, anywhere from 103,000-295,000 Iraqis, and thousands of other "coalition" deaths. The number of maimed isn't calcuable. I believed Saddam must have had something that could threaten the US, no President would send US troops to die without a reason, and spend 1.7 TRILLION*.

*The cost rises as medical, living, and other expenses for the wounded continue on.

And yet it actually happened!

To be fair he had a great deal of help from a bunch of other liars. In fact there is a case to be made that he too, was duped by the liars around him.

You realize of course if he deliberately lied and if he is as guilty as hitler as liberals love to claim, he would have been brought up on war charges.....right?

The fact that the liar in chief that is in office now, never conducted an independent investigation and the fact the UN never brought him up on charges (considering it is so obvious to liberals and everyone that he absolutely lied) certainly is lost on the left.

Maybe it has something to do with these reasons.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/etc/arsenal.html


U.N. Security Council created UNSCOM, a special commission to find and dismantle this arsenal. The U.N. imposed economic sanctions on Iraq that would be enforced until the country eliminated all nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons capability.

Iraqi officials failed to disclose much of their special weapons programs to the inspectors. In 1995, Saddam Hussein's son-in-law Kamel Hussein defected. He had been in charge of the bioweapons program and revealed to UNSCOM that there was a vast arsenal of weapons they had failed to uncover, including biological weapons, and described how the Iraqis were hiding them. This was a breakthrough for the inspection teams, and they continued their work until 1998, when Iraq blocked further access and expelled UNSCOM.

IRAQ'S BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS (BW) PROGRAM

Between 1991 and 1998, UN inspectors conducted more than 70 inspections into Iraq's biological warfare activities. In its 1999 final report to the U.N. Security Council, UNSCOM noted that Iraq's biological warfare program was "among the most secretive of its programs of weapons of mass destruction." It said that Iraq "took active steps" to conceal the program, including "inadequate disclosures, unilateral destruction, and concealment activities." Therefore, the Commission concluded, "it has not been possible to verify" Iraq's statements about the extent and nature of its biological weapons program.

A 58 page annex to the final report describes what the Commission was able to learn about the BW program, despite Iraq's concealment activities, and documents discrepancies between what Iraq claimed to have developed, or destroyed, and the physical evidence. Some of the findings include:

Extensive BW program: Iraq had an extensive BW program from 1973 until at least 1991. In mid-1995, Iraq admitted that it had weaponized BW agents, but claimed that the entire BW program had been in "obliterated" in 1991 and that all BW weapons had been destroyed and all bulk BW agents had been deactivated. The Commission found, however, that the evidence produced in support of this claim was not credible, and that Iraq "retained suitable growth media, BW facilities, production equipment, teams of expert personnel, and the essential technical knowledge" after 1991.

Bulk production: In July, 1995, Iraq acknowledged that between 1988 and 1991, it had produced two BW agents in bulk: botulinum toxin and Bacillus anthracis spores (anthrax). Iraq reported 19,180 liters of botulinum toxin (10-20 fold concentrated) and 8445 liters of Bacillus anthracis spores (10 fold concentrated).

UNSCOM found, however, that "bulk warfare agent production appears to be considerably understated," given the resources available to Iraq's BW program, including growth media and fermenter capacity. The Commission said that the production rate of Botulinum toxin could be as much as double the stated amount, and 3 times greater than that stated for Bacillus anthracis spores.

Iraq claimed that it unilaterally destroyed more than 7500 liters of the Botulinum toxin and 3412 liters of Bacillus anthracis spores in 1991; UNSCOM noted that there was not evidence to support quantities claimed to be destroyed. The report concludes "the Commission has no confidence that all bulk agents have been destroyed... and that a BW capability does not exist in Iraq."

Iraq also claims to have produced lesser quantities of clostridium perfringens spores, ricin, and wheat cover smut.

BW Warheads: Iraq claimed to have produced 25 Al-Hussein missile warheads and filled them with BW agents. The Commission found that there was no credible evidence to show that only 25 missiles were produced and filled. Iraq declared that the 25 missiles were unilaterally destroyed; the Commission found enough physical evidence to account for the declared quantities of BW warheads, but the location of the remnants were inconsistent with Iraq's story.

BW bombs: Iraq declared that 200 R-400 aerial bombs were manufactured for BW purposes, but acknowledged that the numbers of bombs filled with particular agents (100 with botulinum toxin, 50 with bacillus anthracis spores, and 7 with aflatoxin) were "guesses." UNSCOM did find evidence of the destruction of some BW bombs at the site declared by Iraq, but found that the remnants account for less than one third of the bombs Iraq claims to have destroyed. In addition, UNSCOM found evidence of R-400A bombs carrying BW at an airfield where no BW weapons were declared.

Aircraft drop tanks: Iraq claimed that it produced 4 aircraft drop tanks to disseminate BW agents, and was developing a pilotless aircraft that could carry the tanks, holding either BW or chemical weapons, and release the toxins at a preset time. UNSCOM found that there was no evidence corroborate that only 4 were produced, and noted that interviews indicated that 12 were planned. Remnants of only three destroyed tanks were recovered. UNSCOM also rejected the evidence offered by Iraq--a letter thanking the project workers--that the pilotless aircraft project was shut down.

Aerosol Generators: Iraq developed aerosol generators for the dispersal of BW agents by modifying helicopter-borne commercial chemical insecticide disseminators. Although Iraq claimed the devices were ineffective, UNSCOM received documentation that they were successfully field tested. Interview evidence suggests that there were 12 devices produced; none were destroyed by UNSCOM.

Remaining Bacterial Growth Media: UNSCOM determined that there remained substantial bacterial growth media imported into Iraq which remains unaccounted for: 460 kg. of casien; 80 kg. of thioglocollate broth; 520 kg. of yeast extract; and 1100 kg of peptone. The report says that "the amounts that are 'missing' are significant, and would be sufficient to produce quantities of agent comparable to that already declared by Iraq."

IRAQ'S CHEMICAL WEAPONS (CW) PROGRAM

UNSCOM was more successful in its pursuit of Iraq's CW program largely because Iraq was more cooperative with its disclosures. The final report notes that a "significant number" of chemical weapons, their components, and related equipment were destroyed under UNSCOM supervision between 1991 and 1997. In addition, the report found:

Extensive CW program: Iraq acknowledged that it carried out a large scale CW program between 1982 and 1990. It claims that more than 50% of its chemical weapons stocks were consumed during the 1980s, and that the majority of its production facilities were destroyed by aerial bombing during the Gulf War.

Bulk CW agents: Iraq said that it produced 3,859 tons of CW agents during the entire implementation of its CW program, and that 3,315 tons of these agents were weaponized. Agents produced in large quantities included mustard, tabun, and sarin.

According to Iraq, 80% of the weaponized CW agents were consumed between 1982 and 1988. In addition, they claim to have unilaterally discarded 130 tons of non-weaponized CW agents during the 1980s. UNSCOM found that these numbers could not be verified.

After the Gulf War, Iraq claimed that it had 412.5 tons of CW agents remaining. Four hundred eleven tons were destroyed under UNSCOM supervision; 1.5 tons of the CW agent VX remain unaccounted for.

Special Munitions: Iraq claimed that between 1982 and 1988, 100,000 munitions filled with CW agents were consumed or disposed of. UNSCOM found that this number could not be verified.

After the Gulf war, Iraq declared that there remained over 56,000 special munitions which could carry either CW or BW agents (22,000 filled, 34,000 unfilled). These munitions are all accounted for. They were either destroyed or converted for conventional weapons purposes.

Iraq claimed that there were 42,000 special munitions destroyed in the Gulf War. UNSCOM was unable to verify that number, and found that the destruction of 2,000 unfilled munitions remains uncertain, and 550 filled munitions remain unaccounted for.

Iraq claimed that it unilaterally destroyed 29,000 special munitions; UNSCOM found that of these, 100 filled munitions remain unaccounted for.

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That was an independent study of what the UN declared in their official findings. Hence, the reason Bush was not brought up on charges, and the big reason why the president did not conduct an independent investigation......







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It is tiresome trying to get you all to let all of us know how it could be that Bush (remember as guilty as hitler and murdered millions of Iraqi citizens) would not be brought up on charges for mass war crimes.

Let us know when he is charged.


In the mean time, let us not be alarmed by the jihadists getting their hands on nuclear material. It is all just a right wing myth.

 

[Old Rocks]

Anyone with half a brain knows the invasion of Iraq wasn't about the non existent WMD's. ..

Operation Iraqi Liberation.