Jim Jordan Warns Bragg

[JoeC]

Bragg has already warned Jordan not to interfere in his prosecution
Congress does not have oversight on state prosecutions

Will Jordan be next?

They do when Bragg is trying to make it a federal case.

 

[rightwinger]

They do when Bragg is trying to make it a federal case.

It is a state case
They are making it a felony

 

[Faun]

Bragg doesn't have the authoritiy to prosecute Fed Law.

Moron, how many times need you hear? Bragg is not prosecuting a federal law.

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How was Trump trying to promote or prevent someone from getting elected office by unlawful means?

17-152 - conspiring with Cohen to commit a crime to promoting his candidacy.

14-126 - conspiring with Cohen to make an excessive campaign donation

2012 New York Consolidated Laws :: ELN - Election :: Article 14 - (14-100 - 14-130) CAMPAIGN RECEIPTS AND EXPENDITURES :: 14-126 - Violations; penalties.

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civil penalty means it's not a crime....duh

Nonsense. A civil penalty is a penalty for violating a civil law. That's still a crime. It's just a violation of a civil law instead of a criminal law.

 

[Lesh]

again, I ask what crime?

And no matter how many time you’re answered and how many time YOU post it

You’ll keep stupidly asking

 

[struth]

And no matter how many time you’re answered and how many time YOU post it

You’ll keep stupidly asking

what law did I say he violated?

 

[struth]

Moron, how many times need you hear? Bragg is not prosecuting a federal law.



17-152 - conspiring with Cohen to commit a crime to promoting his candidacy.

14-126 - conspiring with Cohen to make an excessive campaign donation



Nonsense. A civil penalty is a penalty for violating a civil law. That's still a crime. It's just a violation of a civil law instead of a criminal law.

Bragg hasn't said yet. Possibly:

• Title 52, United States Code, Section 30101

Then why did you post that idiot? Geez...

What crime was his conspiring with Cohen to commit to promote his candidacy?

Hahha when did he conspire with Cohen to donate to his campaign?

ahaha a civil fine is not a crime...it's civil...geez

 

[Faun]

Then why did you post that idiot? Geez...

Because it's a crime which Trump appears to have tried to conceal.

And I didn't post an idiot, I posted a crime.

 

[Faun]

What crime was his conspiring with Cohen to commit to promote his candidacy?

The crime of which Cohen was convicted.

Hahha when did he conspire with Cohen to donate to his campaign?

When they discussed how to pay off a porn star to keep her quiet about her claims of having an affair with Trump.

ahaha a civil fine is not a crime...it's civil...geez

Are you now saying Hillary did not commit a crime for which she was fined $8,000?

 

[Lesh]

what law did I say he violated?

175.10

You described it...didn't list the number

 

[struth]

175.10

You described it...didn't list the number

um....to be a felony as is alleged it requires another crime...what is that crime.

 

[struth]

The crime of which Cohen was convicted.



When they discussed how to pay off a porn star to keep her quiet about her claims of having an affair with Trump.



Are you now saying Hillary did not commit a crime for which she was fined $8,000?

There is nothing illegal about discussing a NDA with a lawyer. That's not a crime at all.

Cohen was never convicted of any state crime that I am aware of ....which one?

 

[struth]

Because it's a crime which Trump appears to have tried to conceal.

And I didn't post an idiot, I posted a crime.

hahah how in the world did trump try to conceal it, when his admin prosecuted Cohen for it???? hahahhaha

 

[Lesh]

um....to be a felony as is alleged it requires another crime...what is that crime.

Penal Law § 175.10 reads: "A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

Or to aid or conceal the commission thereof."

That crime is described in the SoF..Point #3

 

[Lesh]

What crime was his conspiring with Cohen to commit to promote his candidacy?

What crime was Cohen convicted of?

 

[struth]

That crime is described in the SoF..Point #3

3. One component of this scheme was that, at the Defendant’s request, a lawyer who then worked for the Trump Organization as Special Counsel to Defendant (“Lawyer A”), covertly paid $130,000 to an adult film actress shortly before the election to prevent her from publicizing a sexual encounter with the Defendant. Lawyer A made the $130,000 payment through a shell corporation he set up and funded at a bank in Manhattan. This payment was illegal, and Lawyer A has since pleaded guilty to making an illegal campaign contribution and 2 served time in prison. Further, false entries were made in New York business records to effectuate this payment, separate and apart from the New York business records used to conceal the payment

What crime is it to request a lawyer to create a NDA? How is that illegal?

 

[Lesh]

3. One component of this scheme was that, at the Defendant’s request, a lawyer who then worked for the Trump Organization as Special Counsel to Defendant (“Lawyer A”), covertly paid $130,000 to an adult film actress shortly before the election to prevent her from publicizing a sexual encounter with the Defendant. Lawyer A made the $130,000 payment through a shell corporation he set up and funded at a bank in Manhattan. This payment was illegal, and Lawyer A has since pleaded guilty to making an illegal campaign contribution and 2 served time in prison. Further, false entries were made in New York business records to effectuate this payment, separate and apart from the New York business records used to conceal the payment

What crime is it to request a lawyer to create a NDA? How is that illegal?

This payment was illegal, and Lawyer A has since pleaded guilty to making an illegal campaign contribution and 2 served time in prison.

 

[struth]

Lesh i get that Bragg says it was illegal…but what crime is it to discuss with your attorney to do a NDA???

Cohen plead guilty to a federal crime which he said he paid the money out of his own pocket then went back after the fact and aaid he executed the NDA and wanted paid for his legal services

the feds said he commuted a crime not trump

 

[Lesh]

Lesh i get that Bragg says it was illegal…but what crime is it to discuss with your attorney to do a NDA???

Cohen plead guilty to a federal crime which he said he paid the money out of his own pocket then went back after the fact and aaid he executed the NDA and wanted paid for his legal services

the feds said he commuted a crime not trump

You can characterize it any way you like...but the COURT found that Cohen made an illegal campaign contribution.

Trump has been indicted for aiding and concealing that act.

 

[Faun]

There is nothing illegal about discussing a NDA with a lawyer. That's not a crime at all.

Discussing it wasn't the crime. Making the excessive campaign contribution was the crime. Discussing it only showed Trump was involved.

 

[Faun]

Cohen was never convicted of any state crime that I am aware of ....which one?

Where in 175.10 does it state the underlying crime has to be a state crime??

You're out of your mind.