Judge Engeron should be disbarred for judicial misconduct.

[StoneCold]

Read the judgement award. It gives both a figure and an explanation.

The cryers in this thread won't/can't read it because their "news" sources never cover the truth!

 

[meaner gene]

Very different, because the premise of the statute is the person is a minor and unable to give consent.

Not even remotely the same.

It is the same thing. The bank was a victim of fraud, so their consent was given fraudulently.

The states job is to protect those who were tricked into giving consent.


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[Man With A Plan]

Read the judgement, for both the about and an explanation of how the amount was determined.

With all due respect, Gene? The explanation of how the amount was determined is one of the weakest legal arguments I've ever seen. This is an obvious violation of the 8th Amendment. That judge should be ashamed of himself.

 

[westwall]

Read the judgement award. It gives both a figure and an explanation.

It is a fantasy number.

 

[martybegan]

It is the same thing. The bank was a victim of fraud, so their consent was given fraudulently.

The states job is to protect those who were tricked into giving consent.


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Then why wasn't Trump tried as a criminal?

They weren't tricked, they said they weren't tricked in court.

 

[meaner gene]

They don't have a legal choice because they are a minor. That doesn't apply to these two sides in a consented contract.

A bank isn't an underage rape victim.

Fraudulent business records means the business was representing themselves as something they were not.

No different than if a 21 year old claimed he was 17, in order to have sex with a minor.

See the parallels yet?

 

[westwall]

Read the judgement, for both the about and an explanation of how the amount was determined.

I did. The fact remains there were no victims, and no losses.

 

[meaner gene]

New York State wasn't even a part of the deal! The banks and Trump were. The banks got paid. They're ready to do more deals with Trump. So explain how the State was defrauded by a deal in which there were no victims?

Name the victim in a statutory rape case?

The same as in a business fraud case.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Name the victim in a statutory rape case?

The same as in a business fraud case.

The victim is the underage person...obviously! The State brings that charge because an underage person is deemed too young to know what is happening is wrong even if they agreed to the sex! So who is your underage person in this case, Gene? The banks? LOL

 

[Man With A Plan]

That literally might be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen...just saying!

 

[martybegan]

Fraudulent business records means the business was representing themselves as something they were not.

No different than if a 21 year old claimed he was 17, in order to have sex with a minor.

See the parallels yet?

Then why wasn't he charged criminally or in civil court for fraudulent business records?

You are still stretching, you mouth breathing SJW fuck.

 

[meaner gene]

With all due respect, Gene? The explanation of how the amount was determined is one of the weakest legal arguments I've ever seen. This is an obvious violation of the 8th Amendment. That judge should be ashamed of himself.

No 8th amendment violation

Campbell, 538 U.S. 408 (2003) A punitive damages award should have a single-digit ratio to the compensatory damages award.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Democrat handpicked hack judge Engeron should absolutely face disbarment along with Letitia James. The arbitrary judgements made by this nut job are so far beyond reasonable punitive damages, his conduct demands his removal from the courts. If you disagree, state why.

MSN

L James and Judge Engeron found out how much campaign cash Trump had hand on and geared his judgement on draining Trump's cash horde..

This is clear election interference, but and dried.

 

[Man With A Plan]

No 8th amendment violation

Campbell, 538 U.S. 408 (2003) A punitive damages award should have a single-digit ratio to the compensatory damages award.

Gene? OH GENE! A half a Billion dollar judgement in a case that has no victims is a glaring violation of the 8th Amendment!

 

[meaner gene]

The victim is the underage person...obviously! The State brings that charge because an underage person is deemed too young to know what is happening is wrong even if they agreed to the sex! So who is your underage person in this case, Gene? The banks? LOL

It's not a matter of being underage, but being the victim of someone taking advantage of their naive nature. Whether it's because of age, mental awareness, or in the case of a business not having the ability to protect themselves from fraudulent business records.

 

[meaner gene]

Then why wasn't he charged criminally or in civil court for fraudulent business records?

You are still stretching, you mouth breathing SJW fuck.

Trump was protected by being a sitting president, from criminal investigation, indictment, or prosecution.

Once that shield was dropped, the investigation started, and the civil case brought.

 

[Man With A Plan]

No 8th amendment violation

Campbell, 538 U.S. 408 (2003) A punitive damages award should have a single-digit ratio to the compensatory damages award.

And punitive damages are only awarded when the defendant's actions were particularly egregious. What was egregious in the deal between Trump and the banks? It's the same type of deal done by literally millions of people across the entire country on a daily basis.

 

[Man With A Plan]

It's not a matter of being underage, but being the victim of someone taking advantage of their naive nature. Whether it's because of age, mental awareness, or in the case of a business not having the ability to protect themselves from fraudulent business records.

You're an awful lawyer, Gene! Of course it's about someone being underage. How naive they are doesn't come into play. They can be worldly. They can be aware. IT DOESN'T MATTER! IF THEY'RE UNDERAGE IT'S RAPE!

 

[Man With A Plan]

It's not a matter of being underage, but being the victim of someone taking advantage of their naive nature. Whether it's because of age, mental awareness, or in the case of a business not having the ability to protect themselves from fraudulent business records.

And are you claiming that the bank had a "naive nature"? Really? I'm sure that will be news to them!

 

[martybegan]

Trump was protected by being a sitting president, from criminal investigation, indictment, or prosecution.

Once that shield was dropped, the investigation started, and the civil case brought.

Once he left office they decided to inflict lawfare on him.

The sad thing is for you morons is that if you just left him alone he wouldn't have the support he does now.