Judge in Floyd case opens door for an acquital.

[Ray From Cleveland]

Passing a counterfeit $20 in Minnesota is a misdemeanor...IF they can prove intent.

To my knowledge it's a federal crime.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There were certainly enough people telling him that he was...including Floyd

And they obviously were correct

So how many medical experts were in that crowd to make such a determination that he was killing him?

 

[Canon Shooter]

Not true. If Floyd didnt have a criminal past he would not be spending counterfeit money and he would not have had the police called on him. The incident would have never happened.

That would make sense if only people with a criminal past tried to spend counterfeit money.

Years ago, I was working in a guitar store in San Diego. This mom and grandma came in with little Jimmy who wanted his first guitar.They picked out a $129 beginner set-up. When they went to pay for it, the $100 bill was fake. I couldn't give it back to them, but it's not like they were wanted by the FBI, either. The police showed up, took my statement and theirs, collected the phony bill and everyone went about their business...

 

[asaratis]

Passing a counterfeit $20 in Minnesota is a misdemeanor...IF they can prove intent.

To my knowledge it's a federal crime.

You are correct.

What are the penalties for using counterfeit money?

The penalties for using counterfeit money are fines of $15,000 or more and 15 years in prison. Penalties for unknowingly using counterfeit money vary by state but typically involve imprisonment and fines.

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Using or manufacturing counterfeit money is a violation of the United States Code and can be considered criminal fraud. Counterfeiting of currency is not a minor offense, but is actually considered a federal felony handled by the U.S. Secret Service Office.

The denomination does not matter.

Here is the Minnesota Law:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.632

Whether a felony or misdemeanor depends on the penalty.

Minnesota Statutes 609.632 – Counterfeiting of Currency » LawServer

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• Felony: A crime carrying a penalty of more than a year in prison.
• Misdemeanor: Usually a petty offense, a less serious crime than a felony, punishable by less than a year of confinement.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That would make sense if only people with a criminal past tried to spend counterfeit money.

Years ago, I was working in a guitar store in San Diego. This mom and grandma came in with little Jimmy who wanted his first guitar.They picked out a $129 beginner set-up. When they went to pay for it, the $100 bill was fake. I couldn't give it back to them, but it's not like they were wanted by the FBI, either. The police showed up, took my statement and theirs, collected the phony bill and everyone went about their business...

That might have taken place here if the suspect wasn't so uncooperative with police. Sure, any one of us can be given counterfeit money we didn't realize, and then we try to spend it, but police call in a suspect upon first encounter, and dispatch reads the officer the suspects record so they know who they are dealing with.

This guy had a long criminal history, and he was obviously tanked up on something other than beer or wine. He was paranoid, calling out for his mother, just totally freaking out unlike your cooperative guitar customer. Given the guy didn't even have a job, it gave police every reason to believe he knew the money was phony.

 

[Lesh]

Passing a counterfeit $20 in Minnesota is a misdemeanor...IF they can prove intent.

To my knowledge it's a federal crime.

You are correct.

What are the penalties for using counterfeit money?

The penalties for using counterfeit money are fines of $15,000 or more and 15 years in prison. Penalties for unknowingly using counterfeit money vary by state but typically involve imprisonment and fines.

www.freeadvice.com

Using or manufacturing counterfeit money is a violation of the United States Code and can be considered criminal fraud. Counterfeiting of currency is not a minor offense, but is actually considered a federal felony handled by the U.S. Secret Service Office.

The denomination does not matter.

Here is the Minnesota Law:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.632

Whether a felony or misdemeanor depends on the penalty.

Minnesota Statutes 609.632 – Counterfeiting of Currency » LawServer

www.lawserver.com

• Felony: A crime carrying a penalty of more than a year in prison.
• Misdemeanor: Usually a petty offense, a less serious crime than a felony, punishable by less than a year of confinement.

As that shows and as I said...passing a counterfeit note less than $1,000 is a misdemeanor in Minnesota, IF they can prove intent.

He was being arrested by a STATE LEO so Federal law was not the issue

 

[airplanemechanic]

Passing a counterfeit $20 in Minnesota is a misdemeanor...IF they can prove intent.

And you're wrong. Well you left out a huge part.

Under federal law, the use or attempted use of counterfeit currency is illegal if the person has the intent to defraud the recipient. A conviction for the offense carries up to 20 years in prison and a fine.

 

[jc456]

Police funding would not seem to have much to do with it. Start-up funding might.
"Making their lives better" is an interesting way to put what many people feel is needed. The failure to see what is implicit in those words is what leads self-proclaimed liberals to regretful efforts and conclusions. Most communities that have balanced social conditions did not have that made for them; they did it over time and with a lot of effort. Probably, the most we can do is encourage and 'plant seeds'. Social programming has a very, very dubious history.

Sad and hilarious at the same time. The demofks have had blacks under their thumb giving them excuses for their bad social skills. One has to respect others to gain respect. Demofks don't care about respect. without respect no business will ever set foot in a gang infested neighborhood. And, demofks don't care, their slaves remain theirs. kkkers all of them.

What public do you attract with the verbiage you employ? (asking for a friend)

the ones who respond. My writing is mine. I'm not forcing anyone to reply. Ask your friend why he/she is afraid to discuss with me themself? Pe

The term for that is "wealth production" (not to be confused with just obtaining money). Efforts given to what produces this meaning of wealth can almost always be considered investment. Everyone benefits.

It's how most people produce wealth. I think people on the left watch too many movies on TV and think they are reality.

There wouldn’t be cell phones without Wall Street

 

[jc456]

As that shows and as I said...passing a counterfeit note less than $1,000 is a misdemeanor in Minnesota, IF they can prove intent.

He was being arrested by a STATE LEO so Federal law was not the issue

The store called 911, why? What happened after that was all Floyd’s fault

 

[asaratis]

Passing a counterfeit $20 in Minnesota is a misdemeanor...IF they can prove intent.

To my knowledge it's a federal crime.

You are correct.

What are the penalties for using counterfeit money?

The penalties for using counterfeit money are fines of $15,000 or more and 15 years in prison. Penalties for unknowingly using counterfeit money vary by state but typically involve imprisonment and fines.

www.freeadvice.com

Using or manufacturing counterfeit money is a violation of the United States Code and can be considered criminal fraud. Counterfeiting of currency is not a minor offense, but is actually considered a federal felony handled by the U.S. Secret Service Office.

The denomination does not matter.

Here is the Minnesota Law:

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.632

Whether a felony or misdemeanor depends on the penalty.

Minnesota Statutes 609.632 – Counterfeiting of Currency » LawServer

www.lawserver.com

• Felony: A crime carrying a penalty of more than a year in prison.
• Misdemeanor: Usually a petty offense, a less serious crime than a felony, punishable by less than a year of confinement.

As that shows and as I said...passing a counterfeit note less than $1,000 is a misdemeanor in Minnesota, IF they can prove intent.

He was being arrested by a STATE LEO so Federal law was not the issue

That depends on how many fake $20 bills he had access to.

...but I'll give you that point.

 

[Turtlesoup]

From the currently running court video (police body cam) , at least 3 things are evident:

1
Floyd was yelling "I can't breath" repeatedly BEFORE HE WAS PUT IN THE CAR.

2
He was yelling "I can't breathe" as he was exiting the other side of the car BEFORE HE LAID ON THE GROUND.

3
The "urine" identified by the know-it-all, off-duty firefighter bimbo was condensate water dripping out of the police car air conditioning system.

As has been addressed many times he might have been having problems breathing before he had the knee on his neck.

That doesn't excuse someone kneeling on your neck for 9.5 minutes while you die as opposed to try and offer medical assistance.

Sure it does---large violent out of control criminals get a cops knee to their necks to hold them down so they don't hurt anyone.

 

[Lakhota]

Nothing Floyd may have done prior to his murder-by-cop on live TV is relevant.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sure it does---large violent out of control criminals get a cops knee to their necks to hold them down so they don't hurt anyone.

Their greater concern is they don't hurt themselves.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Nothing Floyd may have done prior to his murder-by-cop on live TV is relevant.

Floyd died of drug overdose---why do you have so much trouble understanding simple basics?

 

[Cecilie1200]

That would make sense if only people with a criminal past tried to spend counterfeit money.

Years ago, I was working in a guitar store in San Diego. This mom and grandma came in with little Jimmy who wanted his first guitar.They picked out a $129 beginner set-up. When they went to pay for it, the $100 bill was fake. I couldn't give it back to them, but it's not like they were wanted by the FBI, either. The police showed up, took my statement and theirs, collected the phony bill and everyone went about their business...

That might have taken place here if the suspect wasn't so uncooperative with police. Sure, any one of us can be given counterfeit money we didn't realize, and then we try to spend it, but police call in a suspect upon first encounter, and dispatch reads the officer the suspects record so they know who they are dealing with.

This guy had a long criminal history, and he was obviously tanked up on something other than beer or wine. He was paranoid, calling out for his mother, just totally freaking out unlike your cooperative guitar customer. Given the guy didn't even have a job, it gave police every reason to believe he knew the money was phony.

There's also the fact that the guy from the store TOLD Floyd the bill was fake, and asked him to either give him real money or give the cigarettes back. He did this TWICE, and Floyd refused both times. So yeah, even if he didn't know the money was fake at the beginning, he did by the time the cops got there.

 

[asaratis]

That would make sense if only people with a criminal past tried to spend counterfeit money.

Years ago, I was working in a guitar store in San Diego. This mom and grandma came in with little Jimmy who wanted his first guitar.They picked out a $129 beginner set-up. When they went to pay for it, the $100 bill was fake. I couldn't give it back to them, but it's not like they were wanted by the FBI, either. The police showed up, took my statement and theirs, collected the phony bill and everyone went about their business...

That might have taken place here if the suspect wasn't so uncooperative with police. Sure, any one of us can be given counterfeit money we didn't realize, and then we try to spend it, but police call in a suspect upon first encounter, and dispatch reads the officer the suspects record so they know who they are dealing with.

This guy had a long criminal history, and he was obviously tanked up on something other than beer or wine. He was paranoid, calling out for his mother, just totally freaking out unlike your cooperative guitar customer. Given the guy didn't even have a job, it gave police every reason to believe he knew the money was phony.

There's also the fact that the guy from the store TOLD Floyd the bill was fake, and asked him to either give him real money or give the cigarettes back. He did this TWICE, and Floyd refused both times. So yeah, even if he didn't know the money was fake at the beginning, he did by the time the cops got there.

From what I've noticed on the videos, the guy in the red pants is the one passing out the counterfeit bills.

...and from the third bodycam video played during the testimony of James Rugal, the water dripping out under the car is shown just seconds after Floyd exits the right passenger door and is laid on the pavement. It was there before he was. It is NOT his urine.

I don't know exactly where it came from but it was hitting the pavement a few inches from the inside of the right rear tire of the car.

 

[JoeB131]

When we start judging people on a recording alone, we are a doomed country. Of course we are doomed anyway because we are under total communist control.

Sorry, man, the recording is damning, and really nothing else Chauvin's sleazy lawyers say is going to change that. (In fact, their attempts to demonize Floyd are largely failing, because most of the Witnesses have expressed sorrow over the event.)

True if the patient took a cocktail of very dangerous narcotics including three times the deadly level of fentanyl alone. A nurse killing somebody with a pillow is not standard procedure. An officer kneeling on a suspects neck to hold them down is.

Not for nine minutes after he stops struggling...

You'd have to be a total idiot to believe that. The officer was arrested and charged before a police investigation even began, and the same with the riots starting. When you give an animal a treat after shitting on your living room carpet, expect that animal to do it again. That's exactly what happened with the two riots under Hussein. The animals learned their bad behavior will be rewarded by Democrats. If you went to any of those riots, interviewed the criminals participating, probably half of them couldn't tell you who George Floyd was if asked. They would tell you they never met the guy.

Wow, Ray comparing people of color to animals again. Tell us again how you aren't racist, Ray, that shit never gets old.

People aren't rioting because they are getting treats. They rioted because they are sick and tired of this shit. (The fact they had been locked up in their houses for months due to TRUMP PLAGUE probably didn't help their anxiety levels.

You don't know much about our political system, do ya? No, a President cannot take any action unless there is a formal request by a city or state. Even after Trump sent troops to protect the federal building, the communists demanded he remove them.

Yes, because they were making matters worse.

If authorities actually killed people, the riots would have stopped. A strong enough deterrent works every time it's tried.

Wow, you are delusional, aren't you? Aren't you the guys who say that you needs you your guns to fight the government? 300 million guns out there, the last thing you really want to do is escalate this shit.

Wealth inequity is very simple. If you don't like the rich getting richer, quit giving them your money. But no. Send your money to them several times every week and then bitch when they have the money.

It isn't their money, that's the problem. I'm paying for the value of the product received, and that money should go to the people who did the work. Not the investors or the rich.

Blacks getting killed by cops could stop today. Listen to all orders by a police officer, and nobody gets hurt or killed. Of course this is very simple to us on the right, but the left would rather people get killed by the cops, and then riot from coast to coast causing tens of millions of dollars damage.

Except we have a lot of cases where people were shot and killed when they presented no threat. Like Tamir Rice. No one gave him an order, Officer Weepy just shot the kid.

 

[IM2]

The racists are hoping this killer gets away will killing a black man. They best hope that doesn't happen.

We hope he doesn't get away if he actually killed him. But given the fact the loser had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his body, it's likely he would have dropped dead no matter what the cops did.

That's a lie and you will be shown that it is. The facct is that the racist white cop with 19 civil rights complaints against his ass he got away with, committed murder. What happened was what was likely. The punk ass racist cop kept getting excused for breaking the motherfucking law until he committed murder.

 

[Turtlesoup]

The racists are hoping this killer gets away will killing a black man. They best hope that doesn't happen.

We hope he doesn't get away if he actually killed him. But given the fact the loser had three times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his body, it's likely he would have dropped dead no matter what the cops did.

That's a lie and you will be shown that it is. The facct is that the racist white cop with 19 civil rights complaints against his ass he got away with, committed murder. What happened was what was likely. The punk ass racist cop kept getting excused for breaking the motherfucking law until he committed murder.

Floyd died of drug overdose and you still won't admit the truth.

 

[IM2]

Blacks getting killed by cops could stop today. Listen to all orders by a police officer, and nobody gets hurt or killed. Of course this is very simple to us on the right, but the left would rather people get killed by the cops, and then riot from coast to coast causing tens of millions of dollars damage.

Then why did this white motherfucker get to live you ignorant racist ass son of a bitch?

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