Judge Pirro

[Rigby5]

Good as a former judge she should know better. The United States is based on the idea to have freedom to practice any religion. Part of Omar's religion is to wear a hijab. Pirro is fucking ignorant to tie wearing a hijab to radical Islamic activity.

No she isn't.

Yes, she is. Of course I didn't expect you to either be honest, or understand her message.

No she isn't. Islam is opposed to every principle this nation is founded on. Practicing Islam means doing everything in your power to destroy the United States.

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

 

[Frannie]

I stand with Judge Pirro, i believe a woman who wears a hijab shows she adheres to Sharia Law, which is against to our Constitution. And furthermore Omar’s antisemitism, to me, proves she’s a radical Sharia Islamist. Gox is wrong

How dare anyone have an opinion about Islamic Radicals.

There are no Islamic radicals there is just islam

There is a sort of Islamic radical.
In order to fight western imperialism and colonialism in the Mideast, the Islamic Brotherhood tried to unify Arabs by using Islam.
That is a worthy cause, but it does end up someone slanting the original intents and purposes of Islam.

Nope. This is done by traditional Islam to please mohfuckmed
https://www.pajhwok.com/sites/pajhw.../1/24159587090_3aff9becb8_z.jpg?itok=TbKzyzlj

That is crazy and had nothing at all do to with religion. That was a guy pissed about being jilted. Not at all supported by Islam.

You are in denial about what u r

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/2000_1000/569e48f61a00005a00ab0d4c.jpeg

This is the face of islam

 

[Rigby5]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

 

[bripat9643]

No she isn't.

Yes, she is. Of course I didn't expect you to either be honest, or understand her message.

No she isn't. Islam is opposed to every principle this nation is founded on. Practicing Islam means doing everything in your power to destroy the United States.

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

Jihad is not about self defense. It's about waging offensive war against the infidel. If what you claim is true, then quote the passages that demonstrate it. The ones I quoted don't say anything about self defense. They tell the believers to kill Jews and Christians simply because they don't believe in Allah. They also say to compel non believers to pay the Jizya .

You're obviously totally full of shit.

 

[Frannie]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

The Quoran is idiocy, all of it.

You can agree or cut off women's vaginas and noses

 

[Frannie]

Yes, she is. Of course I didn't expect you to either be honest, or understand her message.

No she isn't. Islam is opposed to every principle this nation is founded on. Practicing Islam means doing everything in your power to destroy the United States.

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

Jihad is not about self defense. It's about waging offensive war against the infidel. If what you claim is true, then quote the passages that demonstrate it. The ones I quoted don't say anything about self defense. They tell the believers to kill Jews and Christians simply because they don't believe in Allah. They also say to compel non believers to pay the Jizya .

You're obviously totally full of shit.

Why are you trying to speak sense to an imbecile

 

[Rigby5]

I said in comparison with the Old Testament, which says everything is to be taken literally and infallible.
The Quran pretty much says to use common sense, and almost always finishes with the statement that God is merciful, or something like that to help you understand the positive spin you are supposed to put on each verse.
It it not like the Old Testament where mostly you are just supposed to fear.

That's why they made the New Testament.

While what I read in the New Testament sounds pretty good in general, at the same time, it was also the New Testament that was used to justify Crusades, Inquisitions, Conquistadors, burning heritics/witches, slavery, shooting abortion doctors, etc. Even invading Iraq; we would never have done that kind of murder to a European country. So there seems to be something very wrong with how westerners interpret or follow the New Testament as well. What we do is much worse than what Muslims do.

Lol can I cut off your nose for demeaning Jesus, hold still now, fool

Woman with nose cut off - Bing images

First of all, Islam does not at all support or allow mutilation or harming anyone except in defense..
Second is that Christians do kill those who say anything bad about Jesus, even though there is no harm done by being critical of Jesus.
However, those attacking Mohammad are not just being critical, but deliberately attempting to incite hate speech against all Muslims with the intent of whipping up murders. So that is a crime that has to be punished.

Lol a husband can cut off his wife's nose or her head for no reason.

You are a delusional demented fool in full denial, shit they throw gays off buildings and still stone lesbians. You can claim that the pictures are not real, but all you are doing is mocking yourself

First of all, a husband can not harm his wife physically.
Second is that this was not done by a husband.
Third is that this is illegal in all Islamic countries.

Throwing people off buildings or stoning is totally illegal according to the Quran, which only allows for beheading with an axe or heavy sword as the means of quick execution.
You can have all the images you want, but they are not what Mohammad wrote.

 

[bripat9643]

No she isn't. Islam is opposed to every principle this nation is founded on. Practicing Islam means doing everything in your power to destroy the United States.

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

Jihad is not about self defense. It's about waging offensive war against the infidel. If what you claim is true, then quote the passages that demonstrate it. The ones I quoted don't say anything about self defense. They tell the believers to kill Jews and Christians simply because they don't believe in Allah. They also say to compel non believers to pay the Jizya .

You're obviously totally full of shit.

Why are you trying to speak sense to an imbecile

That's all I ever do in this forum.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense,

Such unfettered horseshit. You really need to shut up immediately.

Lets look at some of the beautiful writings of Surah 9:

"
“But when the sacred months are past, kill the pagans wherever you find them,
and capture them, surround them, and watch for them in every lookout; but if
they repent and establish regular prayer and give charity, then let them go their
way, for God is Most Forgiving and Merciful.”

Surah: Al-Tawbah (Repentance) – Chapter: 9 – Verse: 5

.........

Where is the "self defense"? Not there. You are just making shit up. Just stop.

More:

“Fight those from among the People of the Book (Christians and Jews)
who do not have faith in God, nor in the Last Day, and do not consider
forbidden what God and His messenger have forbidden, and do not
acknowledge the religion of truth – until they pay tribute (jizyah) willingly
as subjects.”

Surah: Al-Tawbah (Repentance) – Chapter: 9 – Verse: 29

 

[bripat9643]

That's why they made the New Testament.

While what I read in the New Testament sounds pretty good in general, at the same time, it was also the New Testament that was used to justify Crusades, Inquisitions, Conquistadors, burning heritics/witches, slavery, shooting abortion doctors, etc. Even invading Iraq; we would never have done that kind of murder to a European country. So there seems to be something very wrong with how westerners interpret or follow the New Testament as well. What we do is much worse than what Muslims do.

Lol can I cut off your nose for demeaning Jesus, hold still now, fool

Woman with nose cut off - Bing images

First of all, Islam does not at all support or allow mutilation or harming anyone except in defense..
Second is that Christians do kill those who say anything bad about Jesus, even though there is no harm done by being critical of Jesus.
However, those attacking Mohammad are not just being critical, but deliberately attempting to incite hate speech against all Muslims with the intent of whipping up murders. So that is a crime that has to be punished.

Lol a husband can cut off his wife's nose or her head for no reason.

You are a delusional demented fool in full denial, shit they throw gays off buildings and still stone lesbians. You can claim that the pictures are not real, but all you are doing is mocking yourself

First of all, a husband can not harm his wife physically.
Second is that this was not done by a husband.
Third is that this is illegal in all Islamic countries.

Throwing people off buildings or stoning is totally illegal according to the Quran, which only allows for beheading with an axe or heavy sword as the means of quick execution.
You can have all the images you want, but they are not what Mohammad wrote.

More horseshit.

Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Contemporary translations sometimes water down the word 'beat', but it is the same one used in verse 8:12 and clearly means 'to strike'.

Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife (Tafsir).

 

[Frannie]

That's why they made the New Testament.

While what I read in the New Testament sounds pretty good in general, at the same time, it was also the New Testament that was used to justify Crusades, Inquisitions, Conquistadors, burning heritics/witches, slavery, shooting abortion doctors, etc. Even invading Iraq; we would never have done that kind of murder to a European country. So there seems to be something very wrong with how westerners interpret or follow the New Testament as well. What we do is much worse than what Muslims do.

Lol can I cut off your nose for demeaning Jesus, hold still now, fool

Woman with nose cut off - Bing images

First of all, Islam does not at all support or allow mutilation or harming anyone except in defense..
Second is that Christians do kill those who say anything bad about Jesus, even though there is no harm done by being critical of Jesus.
However, those attacking Mohammad are not just being critical, but deliberately attempting to incite hate speech against all Muslims with the intent of whipping up murders. So that is a crime that has to be punished.

Lol a husband can cut off his wife's nose or her head for no reason.

You are a delusional demented fool in full denial, shit they throw gays off buildings and still stone lesbians. You can claim that the pictures are not real, but all you are doing is mocking yourself

First of all, a husband can not harm his wife physically.
Second is that this was not done by a husband.
Third is that this is illegal in all Islamic countries.

Throwing people off buildings or stoning is totally illegal according to the Quran, which only allows for beheading with an axe or heavy sword as the means of quick execution.
You can have all the images you want, but they are not what Mohammad wrote.

A husband can beat his wife to death for saying no, or for walking ahead of him.

Seriously dude you have no clue

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/283167/slide_283167_2155203_free.jpg

 

[Rigby5]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

The Quoran is idiocy, all of it.

You can agree or cut off women's vaginas and noses

Have you ever actually read the Quran?
I have. It does not take that long. You can easily read it in a couple of months.
And it does not allow for any physical harm or mutilation of anyone.
The FGM is an older and mostly African things similar to the chastity belts Christians used to force women to wear.

 

[bripat9643]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

The Quoran is idiocy, all of it.

You can agree or cut off women's vaginas and noses

Have you ever actually read the Quran?
I have. It does not take that long. You can easily read it in a couple of months.
And it does not allow for any physical harm or mutilation of anyone.
The FGM is an older and mostly African things similar to the chastity belts Christians used to force women to wear.

Total fucking lie.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Sure son, sure.

FFI is right.

Otherwise, show us where the Constitution addresses god, son.

"""The U.S. Constitution is a wholly secular document. It contains no mention of Christianity or Jesus Christ. In fact, the Constitution refers to religion only twice in the First Amendment, which bars laws "respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and in Article VI, which prohibits "religious tests" for public office. Both of these provisions are evidence that the country was not founded as officially Christian."""

Is America A Christian Nation?

You're living proof that people make assumptions based on rhetoric.
.
.

I am living proof that a good education is priceless.

I have always found the Left's need to "redefine" meanings and contexts a source of amusement.
IF the Constitution had been written a vacuum you might have a case.
Sadly for you and Gator it wasn't. It's context was the escape of the Colonists from the State Religion imposed by the King. There was no "Freedom of Religion" in the Kingdom. It was just the state church, the Anglican.
THAT is the context of the 1st Amendment. The genius of it is that they indeed were foresighted enough to include EVERYONE'S "Religion". Far from being godless, it protected everyone's "god".

You condescended to FFI, who stated a fact.
FFI was right. God is not in the Constitution.
Make up your mind, try to cover your ass, we don't give a flying fuck.

.
.
.

I owned him, he knows it, I know it.

Everything below is true.
I have always found the Left's need to "redefine" meanings and contexts a source of amusement.
IF the Constitution had been written a vacuum you might have a case.
Sadly for you and Gator it wasn't. It's context was the escape of the Colonists from the State Religion imposed by the King. There was no "Freedom of Religion" in the Kingdom. It was just the state church, the Anglican.
THAT is the context of the 1st Amendment. The genius of it is that they indeed were foresighted enough to include EVERYONE'S "Religion". Far from being godless, it protected everyone's "god".

Would Reagan be able to win the GOP nomination today? Likely not. Although he inspired generations of republicans…..
Sounds a lot like the right does a lot of re-defining too.

Your ignoring of the content and lack of intelligent input is duly noted

 

[Frannie]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

The Quoran is idiocy, all of it.

You can agree or cut off women's vaginas and noses

Have you ever actually read the Quran?
I have. It does not take that long. You can easily read it in a couple of months.
And it does not allow for any physical harm or mutilation of anyone.
The FGM is an older and mostly African things similar to the chastity belts Christians used to force women to wear.

Reading the Quoran is only accomplished by fools. The passages of hate are already posted here

So ESFOAD if you need help try a shotgun

 

[Rigby5]

No she isn't. Islam is opposed to every principle this nation is founded on. Practicing Islam means doing everything in your power to destroy the United States.

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

Jihad is not about self defense. It's about waging offensive war against the infidel. If what you claim is true, then quote the passages that demonstrate it. The ones I quoted don't say anything about self defense. They tell the believers to kill Jews and Christians simply because they don't believe in Allah. They also say to compel non believers to pay the Jizya .

You're obviously totally full of shit.

Why are you trying to speak sense to an imbecile

The Quran is very clear in that is says Christianity and Judaism are valid paths to heaven, the same God and goal as Islam.
The Quran says all 3 Abrahamic religions are "Brothers of the same book", referring to the same shared Old Testament.
It also says there must never be compulsion when it comes to religion.

Believers also pay the jizya, but do it voluntarily in the mosque.

 

[Frannie]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran,

And on the hadiths. In fact, much of the dominant forms of sharia law is derived directly from them. You keep saying things that are ass backwards wrong.

The Quran is supposed to be quotes from Mohammad, while hadiths are never quotes from Mohammad, but by later clerics.
No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.
Clearly the clerics have a strong bias for the traditions from before Mohammad, that actually Mohammad was intent on changing or stopping.
So often the hadiths are the exact opposite of Mohammad.

The Quoran is idiocy, all of it.

You can agree or cut off women's vaginas and noses

Have you ever actually read the Quran?
I have. It does not take that long. You can easily read it in a couple of months.
And it does not allow for any physical harm or mutilation of anyone.
The FGM is an older and mostly African things similar to the chastity belts Christians used to force women to wear.

Total fucking lie.

Stop trying to help or convert him. He is already dead to the world of the living

 

[Frannie]

Islam is based on the principles of the Quran, which clearly say to only use force if you absolutely have to in defense.

Dead wrong.

It says that even if they have attacked you twice, you can still try a third time to work out a peaceful agreement.
It is only after the 3rd attack that you no longer have any mercy.

It tells Muslims to wage war against the infidel. It says it over and over and over.

{... “There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256) ...}

{... “God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8) ...}

{... The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. ...}

The "peace" of Islam means the peace of submission. There is no peace for those who refuse to submit.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has instructed them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. (See also: Response to Apologists)

Wrong. That is the 9th Surrah, which is titled forgiveness and redemption. It is all about how you should not fight except in defense, and you should make 2 attempts at peace even with those that betray you.
The quotes you put up are AFTER they have broken treaties and attacked you twice.
You clearly have not read or understood the Quran at all.

The jizya is the same taxes that Muslims pay in the Mosque. It is not an additional tax. It is just to support widows and orphans, and Christians and Jews can't pay their due share in the Mosque as everyone else is supposed to.
And tell me one government in the world that does NOT believe that all people have to be "violently subjugated" to written law?

And it is just a lie to claim Islam ever supports expansionism or military conquest.
YOU say "in the next 100 years" but clearly Mohammad was already old when he captured Mecca even.
There was no conquests by Mohammad.
If you had read any history, you would see that around 1100 AD, Asiatics, like the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks invaded in successive waves.
And it was they who threatened Europe, not Islamic Arabs.
Islam had nothing to do with it, even though the Mongols, Moguls, and Turks later adopted Islam.

Jihad is not about self defense. It's about waging offensive war against the infidel. If what you claim is true, then quote the passages that demonstrate it. The ones I quoted don't say anything about self defense. They tell the believers to kill Jews and Christians simply because they don't believe in Allah. They also say to compel non believers to pay the Jizya .

You're obviously totally full of shit.

Why are you trying to speak sense to an imbecile

The Quran is very clear in that is says Christianity and Judaism are valid paths to heaven, the same God and goal as Islam.
The Quran says all 3 Abrahamic religions are "Brothers of the same book", referring to the same shared Old Testament.
It also says there must never be compulsion when it comes to religion.

Believers also pay the jizya, but do it voluntarily in the mosque.

The Quoran allows and endorses this

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/283167/slide_283167_2155203_free.jpg

You are already dead in the eyes of god

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.

Except muslims do precisely that. So, instead of whining to the guy who takes them at their word, go whine to them.

And stop with your false horseshit, you are embarrassing yourself.

 

[Frannie]

No rational person would then claim that hadiths were actually the basis for Islam.

Except muslims do precisely that. So, instead of whining to the guy who takes them at their word, go whine to them.

And stop with your false horseshit, you are embarrassing yourself.

He can not embarrass himself, as he believes that we are all evil fools