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Just curious...do the democrats realize...they still own obamacare? And they are happy about that?

Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?
You do realize Obamacare is bankrupt just like every other socialist entitlement program… Lemmings lol
We have been hearing the same thing about Social Security for 80 years. For some reason, Republicans and Democrats always seem to find a way to keep it going.
Yes the weakness of the nanny state knows no bounds, but we have a national debt as proof of the failure of the socialist entitlement programs.

Our national debt is mostly a result of our stopping paying for our wars.


obama doubled it...he wasn't paying for wars....
We are all and still paying. We will be doing it for a long time.

watson.brown.edu/costofwar/costs/economic
 
Rather than be irate at their elected officials who failed miserably at replacing Obamacare.......Republicans have been told to chant....Now the Democrats OWN Obamacare

Democrats are thrilled


Yeah.....we'll see how thrilled they are when it explodes....according to plan in the near future......premiums people can't afford for coverage they can't afford to use.........
It's not going to explode.....Republicans will slowly let the air out of it
Whatever way the healthcare system fails, it will be the party in power that gets the blame for all the people who are harmed by the failure.

I fail to see how Republicans think they get a pass on this one

They were elected to give something better than the "failed Obamacare"

When people are suffering......they will ask what happened?
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?
You do realize Obamacare is bankrupt just like every other socialist entitlement program… Lemmings lol
We have been hearing the same thing about Social Security for 80 years. For some reason, Republicans and Democrats always seem to find a way to keep it going.


We are 20 trillion in debt......and obamacare is not Social Security...actual premiums have to be paid every month...actual deductibles have to be paid for treatment.....and it was designed to fail....it is going to fail and it will fail as obamacare....
No, it won't fail

Some segments will struggle. Segments in Republican states. We will have to see if Republicans refuse to help their own constituents


Wow...the stupid is strong with you.....
Hardly

Obamacare is very strong in some states. It will last for generations. Red States that did everything they could to force Obamacare to fail......will see it fail
 
Why did the Republicans fail and the Democrats prevail? Look at the numbers. Pay attention to the independents AND the Republicans themselves especially. This is what a loser Trumpcare was:

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Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?
You do realize Obamacare is bankrupt just like every other socialist entitlement program… Lemmings lol
Let them eat cake,,,,,,,,,,,or die in the streets?
I'm sorry that you think that the federal government is the be-all end-all… In the long run you will be severely disappointed
NOBODY thinks that rustic but the gov't is there to help those less fortunate than most of your republican ilk
 
Math isn't spin...obamacare was designed to fail...designed to fail with hilary clinton as President so that they could take over American healthcare with single payer healthcare....as if the same morons who can't run the Veteran's Administration medical system can now run the healthcare for 320 million people.....

But now Trump won....and now the democrats still own obamacare........and they really think they won something today?

I hope they enjoy the next 8 years....
Don't forget EIGHT YEARS means TWO more SCOTUS picks and one liberal is in her 80s {Ginsburg} and the other high 70s. Can you imagine the impact of THREE PRO-gun SCOTUS picks by Trump?

Imagine how many more cops will be killed. Don't you think they get shot enough already?
The KEY to reducing crime in America is to REMOVE the criminal NOT an item.
Just like with illegal immigrants, the numbers are so big that it is just not possible, smart or realistic to even attempt to remove all guns.
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......
TRUMPS NEW MESSAGE

Trump's NEW message to his people is "Don't pay attention to these failures, we're gonna fix things the next time around." Smh
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......
TRUMPS NEW MESSAGE

Trump's NEW message to his people is "Don't pay attention to these failures, we're gonna fix things the next time around." Smh
Seems to be......blame the Democrats if we can't come up with something better than Obamacare
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.
Yeah just like they have been the last two elections. You and your liberal friends don't really have a great track record and predictions. There is nothing done that won't allow the bill to be brought back up. Maybe Trump will start bribing Republicans as did Obama bribe democrats.
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......

You mean in line with what is now Trump's outreach to the Democrats to come up with a BI-PARTISAN fix?

lol, let's hear from the Freedom Caucus on that idea...
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......
TRUMPS NEW MESSAGE

Trump's NEW message to his people is "Don't pay attention to these failures, we're gonna fix things the next time around." Smh
Seems to be......blame the Democrats if we can't come up with something better than Obamacare
Finally I agree with you, thank the democrats for creating the medical/industrial complex apparently designed to finish off the middle class.
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.
Yeah just like they have been the last two elections. You and your liberal friends don't really have a great track record and predictions. There is nothing done that won't allow the bill to be brought back up. Maybe Trump will start bribing Republicans as did Obama bribe democrats.

17% approval of this bill is what assures it won't be brought back up.
 
Since the latest approval of Obamacare vs. Trumpcare was about 49% to 17%,

why should Democrats lament 'owning' Obamacare?


Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......

You mean in line with what is now Trump's outreach to the Democrats to come up with a BI-PARTISAN fix?

lol, let's hear from the Freedom Caucus on that idea...
Freedom Caucus will never agree to ANY healthcare
 
Keep thinking that....embrace it.....own it.......

It's a winner now more than ever. The Republicans can never run on 'repeal and replace' again. They'll be laughed off the stage by the swing vote.


Keep telling yourself that......and yeah, it will be repealed and replaced....and next time it will have to be an actual reform......
TRUMPS NEW MESSAGE

Trump's NEW message to his people is "Don't pay attention to these failures, we're gonna fix things the next time around." Smh
Seems to be......blame the Democrats if we can't come up with something better than Obamacare
Finally I agree with you, thank the democrats for creating the medical/industrial complex apparently designed to finish off the middle class.
Never realized the Dems had that much power
 
All that is needed to fix Obamacare is to convince people that plans increasing 10-20 percent a year is cheap. That 5000 out of pocket is not a lot of money. That paying for medical plans you don't use or want is a good thing. That making the medical/industrial complex billions is a good thing.

That is all that needs done and is apparently what the left wing is doing.
 
Like the Bill Clinton crime bill?

What is the key to reducing dead cops? Countries with gun control don't have that problem.
TOTAL bullsh#t statement, more then enough stats FROM those countries SHOW their murder rate is as bad or WORSE. And this issue IS murder NOT by what means. NOW that being said lets EDUCATE your ass.


I said cops being killed. We have many shot and killed here. That isn't a problem in counties with gun control.

ALSO not true. UN-armed cops have died in THOSE countries and armed cops have died in those countries. Watch the video IDIOT Plano Texas is SAFER then 180 COUNTRIES on earth!
Choke on your horse sh#t.


At a much lower rate.

Oh NOW Brain357 goes from "they don't have that problem" TO a much reduced rate".

Typical ignorant poster. Has to BACK PEDAL on his statements THEN still wants to claim high ground. Listen up dumb f#ck every reader SEES that sh#t. YOU LIED, YOU got caught and you DENY. Typical.

I didn't interpret his "they don't have a problem" comment to mean that there are zero incidences of it. Is that what you thought he meant?

If country A has 30% unemployment and country B has 3%, it is fair to say that country B doesn't have an unemployment problem when compared to country A... wouldn't you agree?
 
Americans lost today. A man who was suppose to cut through DC double speak and self dealing did not deliver. Republicans who told us it was a new day lied. Democrats who have nothing to offer still look pathetic.
You are questioning a great arch strategist, his chess move today has cornered the dems to now stop their childs play and vote on value of restructuring plan instead of all conspiring to vote party line sabotage-'hinderers'(sawtawns).
Satanists=hinderers(obstructionists)-adversaries.
That never bodes well especially if it exposes Obama care failures they structured forced on the people on the first place.
No silly, trump allowed this failure to hurt the Repubs not lock stepping with him....to bring THEM in line....
10 republican no votes generally can be made up by Dems voting yes but cry bavies were being obstructionist not caring for the needs or wishes of the people. This is where 2 party system fail us as they promote savotahe which you accused without source republicans doing regarding extending medicaid. I doubt your comments but anyway it was impossible for most states to do that as many were akready close to bankruptcy, the extended medixaid was not affordable to states which is why the individual states with high number of such denied extension. The burden was just to great, which is why Dems should never have passed the plan, as done only for legacy and votes from their poor unsuspecting voter base. Most cases people who didn't have insurance who were to benefit from this plan, ended up still uncovered and you canct blame republicans for the rediculous promise by Obama that this was the intent of their Dem plan. Just take the blame for a change, this is one time you need to just swallow pride and support change to a failed idea whereby you were told it would fail and why.
 
Republicans control all branches of government. They control a majority of the states. They have the numbers to pass anything they want without a single democrat vote.

The problem is republicans know how to oppose, but they don't know how to govern.
 
Math isn't spin...obamacare was designed to fail...designed to fail with hilary clinton as President so that they could take over American healthcare with single payer healthcare....as if the same morons who can't run the Veteran's Administration medical system can now run the healthcare for 320 million people.....

But now Trump won....and now the democrats still own obamacare........and they really think they won something today?

I hope they enjoy the next 8 years....
An interesting spin, a humiliating defeat for the master deal maker is a win. :cuckoo:
 
An interesting spin, a humiliating defeat for the master deal maker is a win. :cuckoo:

Trump reversed his position from repeal and replace, to let Obamacare fail. Next he will start playing his violin and telling the people to eat cake.
 

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