Keep an eye out on the upcoming Louisiana senate run-off election

[martybegan]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

The only thing that would happen if Roe was overturned is that there would be Restrictions on Abortion in places that wanted restrictions, it would be protected in places where people don't want restrictions, and maybe the country could stop wasting time on it.

The Court expected a Clauswitzian victory on the topic when it decided Roe, instead if got 40 years of the same fight being fought again and again and again.

If some states were to opt out from Roe, there will be a flooding into abortion clinics from states like Alabama to Washington or California. If this restriction on women is thought to be an "asset" for conservatives, there will be adverse repercussions instead.

It's not an asset, it's what has to happen if you believe in Strict Construction of the Constitution. I would never vote to ban abortion outright, or even all of these petty ante attempt to suppress it within the framework of Roe.

What I don't see is any constitutional standing for it. Roe has put the debate on Abortion into a 40 year freeze cycle. Overturning it and letting the States figure it out is the only way to achieve if not a Clauswitzian resolution, then at least a State based state of Detente.

 

[yiostheoy]

If some states were to opt out from Roe, there will be a flooding into abortion clinics from states like Alabama to Washington or California. If this restriction on women is thought to be an "asset" for conservatives, there will be adverse repercussions instead.

So what?

Let the floozies flock to California then.

 

[nat4900]

The rest of the Nation should not be forced to do this.

So, states' rights are MORE important than an individual's rights???

 

[bendog]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

Dodd Frank is done. Trump is standing up for the little guys who bailed out Wall St without getting anything in return! Go Donnie GO!

 

[oreo]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

There is only one seat to fill at this point and the Court will stay 5-4 on Roe vs Wade in favor for it if Trump nominated someone like Ted Cruz to the USSC.

The only way the court flips is if one of the Liberal judges retire or die, and then it changes the game...

Republican administrations over the last many decades have refused to give abortion litmus tests to court nominees. Hillary Clinton now leading with 1.7 million votes says his mandate's are extremely weak. So I doubt that Republicans would approve of a far Reich wing nominee--mainly out of fear that they would lose their own seats.

Trump is a one termer, that is, if he doesn't get impeached first. Democrats will most certainly take over both houses in 2018--so all of these existing court justices can certainly make it through the next 2 years.

 

[kaz]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

Stopping a filibuster is 60, that isn't a factor in this one as clearly Republicans can't get that

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Democrats are cool with 'Obstruction' now? Gee, go figure? Liars and cheats. Makes perfect sense they supported the Clinton Crime Family.

Actually, NO....moron...We are not talking about some bill that may impact us for a year or so....We are talking about adversely changing the SCOTUS that could last our entire lifetime with right wing ideology to set us back for decades.

How would appointing constitutionalist judges adversely change anything?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

There is only one seat to fill at this point and the Court will stay 5-4 on Roe vs Wade in favor for it if Trump nominated someone like Ted Cruz to the USSC.

The only way the court flips is if one of the Liberal judges retire or die, and then it changes the game...

Republican administrations over the last many decades have refused to give abortion litmus tests to court nominees. Hillary Clinton now leading with 1.7 million votes says his mandate's are extremely weak. So I doubt that Republicans would approve of a far Reich wing nominee--mainly out of fear that they would lose their own seats.

Trump is a one termer, that is if he doesn't get impeached first. Democrats will most certainly take over both houses in 2018--so all of these existing court justices can certainly make it through the next 2 years.

And Hillary Clinton was to handily be President....

 

[imawhosure]

The rest of the Nation should not be forced to do this.

So, states' rights are MORE important than an individual's rights???

Show us in the constitution where having an abortion is a "right' and we will go along with you.

Point is, all politics are local. Did not the federal government overturn the ban on booze? Then explain how there are dry counties and towns. Is that not against the rights of people? If a state or locality wishes to ban abortion within its jurisdiction, then it should be allowed to. If the people of that state or locality, wish to change policy, they will vote in people locally to change it.

Also, did you know that the left promised since Roe's inception, that federal dollars would NEVER be used for abortion, even as it were legal; until this President, Mr Obama. Allowing it to happen is one thing, but to force taxpayers to subsidize it, is another. Obama over reached on many issues, which is why all the snowflakes are crying with Trump. Were it not for Obama, there would never have been a Trump. If Obama would have been JFK like, the Republican party would not now control 39 states, would not control the House, would not control the Senate, and would not control the Presidency..............all together. Your over reach did it, and while I think you might win back the Presidency sometime soon, I think besides the few large population centers the left has, I don't see the country turning blue anytime soon.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

The Democrats will not win the seat

 

[OKTexas]

Democrats are cool with 'Obstruction' now? Gee, go figure? Liars and cheats. Makes perfect sense they supported the Clinton Crime Family.

Actually, NO....moron...We are not talking about some bill that may impact us for a year or so....We are talking about adversely changing the SCOTUS that could last our entire lifetime with right wing ideology to set us back for decades.

One of the primary reasons the hildabitch lost was to keep another Altleft justice off the court. Deal with it loser.

 

[yiostheoy]

The rest of the Nation should not be forced to do this.

So, states' rights are MORE important than an individual's rights???

Your statements are commonly called within erudite circles as "rhetorical".

They are mostly foolish emotional appeals.

 

[oreo]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

There is only one seat to fill at this point and the Court will stay 5-4 on Roe vs Wade in favor for it if Trump nominated someone like Ted Cruz to the USSC.

The only way the court flips is if one of the Liberal judges retire or die, and then it changes the game...

Republican administrations over the last many decades have refused to give abortion litmus tests to court nominees. Hillary Clinton now leading with 1.7 million votes says his mandate's are extremely weak. So I doubt that Republicans would approve of a far Reich wing nominee--mainly out of fear that they would lose their own seats.

Trump is a one termer, that is if he doesn't get impeached first. Democrats will most certainly take over both houses in 2018--so all of these existing court justices can certainly make it through the next 2 years.

And Hillary Clinton was to handily be President....

You can't win on just the electoral college vote and lose by 2 million votes without Americans noticing that. Those noticing are Republican Senators & House Members who will always protect their own seats FIRST, including voting against Trump, if required.

Trump is NOT a religious zealot or ideolog. He will not select justices based on Roe v Wade or overturning gay marriage. He's already stated that Planned Parenthood does a lot of good for women, and that Gay Marriage is the law of the land and it's going to stay. He will consider the same with Roe V Wade. Born & raised in New York--says he's more of a Democrat than a Republican. He's just a great actor.

You morons keep forgetting that it was a right leaning court that gave us Roe V Wade, and it's been considered a right leaning court ever since, and nothing has changed. Nor will it. A woman's right to choose is here to stay.

For the first time in this nation's history, the President Elect has had to barricade himself inside the Trump tower, and his communication with the outside world has been reduced to a tweeter account. This is why Trump will not win a second term. Republicans may want to primary him. Over half the population in this country hate the guy and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Most Presidents don't start to get criticized until several months AFTER they've been sworn in, so this is a first time also.

 

[yiostheoy]

You can't win on just the electoral college vote and lose by 2 million votes without Americans noticing that. Those noticing are Republican Senators & House Members who will always protect their own seats FIRST, including voting against Trump, if required.

Trump is NOT a religious zealot or ideolog. He will not select justices based on Roe v Wade or overturning gay marriage. He's already stated that Planned Parenthood does a lot of good for women, and that Gay Marriage is the law of the land and it's going to stay. He will consider the same with Roe V Wade. Born & raised in New York--says he's more of a Democrat than a Republican. He's just a great actor.

You morons keep forgetting that it was a right leaning court that gave us Roe V Wade, and it's been considered a right leaning court ever since, and nothing has changed with Roe V Wade. Nor will it. A woman's right to choose is here to stay.

For the first time in this nation's history, the President Elect has had to barricade himself inside the Trump tower, and his communication with the outside world has been reduced to a tweeter account. This is why Trump will not win a second term. Republicans may want to primary him. Over half the population in this country hate the guy and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Most Presidents don't start to get criticized until several months AFTER they've been sworn in, so this is a first time also.

" Two Million" is JUNK NEWS. Probably got started on Zuckerberg's worthless website.

Fact: Hillary got 62,523,126 votes.

Fact: Trump got 61,201,031 votes.

Fact: mathematical difference is 1.3 million.

Not even close to 2 million.

Does not even round to 2 million.

2016 Presidential Election Live Results

 

[nat4900]

Republican administrations over the last many decades have refused to give abortion litmus tests to court nominees. Hillary Clinton now leading with 1.7 million votes says his mandate's are extremely weak. So I doubt that Republicans would approve of a far Reich wing nominee--mainly out of fear that they would lose their own seats.

Trump is a one termer, that is, if he doesn't get impeached first. Democrats will most certainly take over both houses in 2018--so all of these existing court justices can certainly make it through the next 2 years.

Of course, I hope you're correct....(although taking back the House would be tough with all the red gerrymandering)....

Additionally, not only would the current Justices need to hang on for the next 2 years, but the evil Scalia's seat needs to be filled and I wonder if Dems, in the senate have the backbone to filibuster.

Another small ray of hope is that Thomas (without Scalia's lap to sit on) may soon retire.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You can't win on just the electoral college vote and lose by 2 million votes without Americans noticing that. Those noticing are Republican Senators & House Members who will always protect their own seats FIRST, including voting against Trump, if required.

Trump is NOT a religious zealot or ideolog. He will not select justices based on Roe v Wade or overturning gay marriage. He's already stated that Planned Parenthood does a lot of good for women, and that Gay Marriage is the law of the land and it's going to stay. He will consider the same with Roe V Wade. Born & raised in New York--says he's more of a Democrat than a Republican. He's just a great actor.

You morons keep forgetting that it was a right leaning court that gave us Roe V Wade, and it's been considered a right leaning court ever since, and nothing has changed with Roe V Wade. Nor will it. A woman's right to choose is here to stay.

For the first time in this nation's history, the President Elect has had to barricade himself inside the Trump tower, and his communication with the outside world has been reduced to a tweeter account. This is why Trump will not win a second term. Republicans may want to primary him. Over half the population in this country hate the guy and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Most Presidents don't start to get criticized until several months AFTER they've been sworn in, so this is a first time also.

" Two Million" is JUNK NEWS. Probably got started on Zuckerberg's worthless website.

Fact: Hillary got 62,523,126 votes.

Fact: Trump got 61,201,031 votes.

Fact: mathematical difference is 1.3 million.

Not even close to 2 million.

Does not even round to 2 million.

2016 Presidential Election Live Results

And 3 million ILLEGALS voted. Further before California came in Trump was up over 1 million votes.

 

[nat4900]

Stopping a filibuster is 60, that isn't a factor in this one as clearly Republicans can't get that

Republicans CAN change the parliamentary rules (if they wish) to bring up cloture against filibusters with a simple majority....Of course, there's the suicidal danger in that.

 

[OKTexas]

Who would have thought that Louisiana's senate election (now due to a run-off next month) would be so damn important.......As it currently stands, the GOP has 51 senate seats to Dems. 48, and the run-off may either make the count 52-48 or 51-49.

This run-off is important because of the possible filibusters that Dems would apply when fighting off the GOP's wishes to also control the SCOTUS.

Bear in mind that the SCOTUS status will impact on the upholding of Roe v. Wade and the continuation of Dodd-Frank...the only safeguard toward another WS banks' possible claim that they're too big to fail.

The Democrats will not win the seat

Seems one time you said the only way the republicans could keep the senate was to not nominate Trump. Has reality finally set in?

 

[nat4900]

How would appointing constitutionalist judges adversely change anything?

Because YOUR ilk's interpretation of "constituionalist" [sic] smacks a lot of fascism.

 

[oreo]

Republican administrations over the last many decades have refused to give abortion litmus tests to court nominees. Hillary Clinton now leading with 1.7 million votes says his mandate's are extremely weak. So I doubt that Republicans would approve of a far Reich wing nominee--mainly out of fear that they would lose their own seats.

Trump is a one termer, that is, if he doesn't get impeached first. Democrats will most certainly take over both houses in 2018--so all of these existing court justices can certainly make it through the next 2 years.

Of course, I hope you're correct....(although taking back the House would be tough with all the red gerrymandering)....

Additionally, not only would the current Justices need to hang on for the next 2 years, but the evil Scalia's seat needs to be filled and I wonder if Dems, in the senate have the backbone to filibuster.

Another small ray of hope is that Thomas (without Scalia's lap to sit on) may soon retire.

Republicans lost 2 senate seats and 6 house seats. Americans are pissed off, and those that normally wouldn't vote in a midterm are going to make certain they show up.

Supreme court Justices can be confirmed with a simple majority, but again you have Republicans in the Senate and the House that will be up for reelection in 2018 that aren't going to confirm some dip-shit Reich wing radical nominee. They just won't do it. Democrats will have a stink fit about it, Republicans can't afford to lose women--by attacking Roe V Wade or Planned Parenthood. While a Trump supporter is dumber than shit, Republicans in the house and senate aren't.

OBAMACARE--to repeal will require 60 votes in the Senate and that doesn't exist there. It took a sitting Democrat President and a Democrat super majority in both houses that gave us Obamacare, and anything less isn't going to repeal it. So they're dead in the water on that one. The only thing they can do is try to get Democrats to agree to tweek it to get the cost down.