King Abdullah of Jordan and Muslim leaders say ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. Stop the idiocy.

[sealybobo]

Why was Jordan bombing Syria? It's a Syrian Civil War. It's not their war. Don't wanna come off as callous and uncaring, but this pilot had no business bombing Syria. He paid the ultimate price for his Government's meddling in another Nation's internal affairs. What a horrifying way to go.

Remember shock and awe was supposed to instill fear in the Iraqi people? Well these terrorists want to send a message to the west and boy did they accomplish that.

I like it that the king executed a couple ISIS people in retaliation. The USA would never do that. We should take 5 from Guantanimo and cut their heads off.

I watched the whole video. It is chilling, but also fascinating. The video was actually well-produced. He died a truly a horrific death. He paid the ultimate price for his Government's meddling in another Nation's internal affairs. Jordan had no business bombing Syria. It's not their war.

How come I can never find these videos? I want to see the beheadings.

Try Reddit. Just search for it. You'll find a link. I would post the link, but i'm not real sure what the rules are here on graphic stuff. But i did find a link on Reddit. It was actually a very slick production. They claim it was retaliation for Jordan bombing & killing so many of 'their people.'

And i hate to sound callous, but Jordan really has no business bombing Syria. Anyway, check the video out. But i will warn you, it's pretty disturbing.

I did find it. I was hoping that while he was kneeling he was no longer feeling it. But it looks like he was feeling it. Then his body finally collapsed and you knew he was dead. But it looked like the suffering went on way too long. OMG!

 

[irosie91]

A disagreement?

Erdogan is right-----islam is islam ------there are basis principles to which virtually all sects of islam adhere
(virtually all means most but not ALL) Violent jihad
is one of them and hatred of those who do not accept islam
as THE ONE TRUE RELIGION is another

Violent jihad? Is there any other kind?

I tend to agree with the guy though about ALL religions.

The term moderate religion is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate religion. Religion is religion.

Just like there is no moderate lies. A lie is a lie. Some may be more harmful than others but a lie is never better than the truth.

you are right seal-----religion is religion. Hinduism is Hinduism. Hinduism involves lots of rituals and episodes
of fasting------and in its various sects dietary restrictions ---
and caste system stuff. Some Hindus are more INTO
Hinduism than others and do real hard core HINDU stuff---
like long long fasts and long long episodes of standing on one toe and devoting ones time to a temple full of rats.
Judaism is Judaism -----some jews are more INTO Judaism
an do hardcore jewish stuff like spend a hundred hours per
weeks pondering over the Talmud. Islam is islam ---and some muslims do really hardcore muslim stuff-----like kill people for "insulting" muhummad.

what most people would call a "moderate hindu" would be one who does not spend five months standing on one toe..
A moderate jew would not spend more than one hour per week pondering the Talmud and a moderate muslim is one
who does not kill people for "insulting" muhummad

Today Christians are screaming that Islam is trying to take over the world. Sound familiar?

The early KKK, up until around the 1930s, adhered to a nationalist brand of Protestantism which led them to target Jews and Catholics. During the Depression-era, however, Christian Identity, a fringe sect derived from British Israelism that uses Biblical quotes to justify white supremacy, began to be imported into the US. The Klan has been heavily entangled with Christian Identity since this period, especially since the 1970s and '80s, and has put more emphasis on anti-Semitism due to Identity's obsession with a supposed race war and view of the Jews as a force conspiring to wipe out and/or enslave the white race

sounds right, booboo very consistent with the islamo Nazi propaganda I read circa 1960

 

[paulitician]

All Americans and Jordanians should watch the latest ISIS video. It could give them a slightly different perspective... Or not. Why is Jordan bombing Syria? Anyway, people should see the video. It is very disturbing though. It's actually about 10 minutes. The execution is only the last minute or so of the video.

 

[irosie91]

All Americans and Jordanians should watch the latest ISIS video. It could give them a slightly different perspective... Or not. Why is Jordan bombing Syria? Anyway, people should see the video. It is very disturbing though. It's actually about 10 minutes. The execution is only the last minute or so of the video.

I am an American without speakers-----what is the gist of the
video which is a "different perspective'?

 

[paulitician]

Why was Jordan bombing Syria? It's a Syrian Civil War. It's not their war. Don't wanna come off as callous and uncaring, but this pilot had no business bombing Syria. He paid the ultimate price for his Government's meddling in another Nation's internal affairs. What a horrifying way to go.

He did not "pay a price"-----he was murdered in what is a
war crime-------I have important news-----murdering a bound
prisoner of war is not legal

Why was Jordan bombing Syria in the first place?

Obviously Jordan considers Syria a threat to Jordan----King Abdullah is not a BAATHIST PIG which is why lots of
arabs hate him. Nasser tried to make his father a BAATHIST PIG----but it did not work out Apparently Abdullah wants to be like his father. ----which is why lots
of arabs hate him ------and murdered his great grandfather
who was also not a rabic fascist arab nationalist. Isis did not
murder the Jordanian pilot for the sake of Syria -----they
murdered him because he is not ISIS

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

 

[irosie91]

Why was Jordan bombing Syria? It's a Syrian Civil War. It's not their war. Don't wanna come off as callous and uncaring, but this pilot had no business bombing Syria. He paid the ultimate price for his Government's meddling in another Nation's internal affairs. What a horrifying way to go.

Remember shock and awe was supposed to instill fear in the Iraqi people? Well these terrorists want to send a message to the west and boy did they accomplish that.

I like it that the king executed a couple ISIS people in retaliation. The USA would never do that. We should take 5 from Guantanimo and cut their heads off.

I watched the whole video. It is chilling, but also fascinating. The video was actually well-produced. He died a truly a horrific death. He paid the ultimate price for his Government's meddling in another Nation's internal affairs. Jordan had no business bombing Syria. It's not their war.

How come I can never find these videos? I want to see the beheadings.

Try Reddit. Just search for it. You'll find a link. I would post the link, but i'm not real sure what the rules are here on graphic stuff. But i did find a link on Reddit. It was actually a very slick production. They claim it was retaliation for Jordan bombing & killing so many of 'their people.'

And i hate to sound callous, but Jordan really has no business bombing Syria. Anyway, check the video out. But i will warn you, it's pretty disturbing.

I did find it. I was hoping that while he was kneeling he was no longer feeling it. But it looks like he was feeling it. Then his body finally collapsed and you knew he was dead. But it looked like the suffering went on way too long. OMG!

the only good news I can think of is------people who die of
being burned to death ----like that ---surrounded by flames---
quickly become oxygen deprived-----and lose consciousness------he probably did not suffer as long as it
seems he did

 

[irosie91]

He did not "pay a price"-----he was murdered in what is a
war crime-------I have important news-----murdering a bound
prisoner of war is not legal

Why was Jordan bombing Syria in the first place?

Obviously Jordan considers Syria a threat to Jordan----King Abdullah is not a BAATHIST PIG which is why lots of
arabs hate him. Nasser tried to make his father a BAATHIST PIG----but it did not work out Apparently Abdullah wants to be like his father. ----which is why lots
of arabs hate him ------and murdered his great grandfather
who was also not a rabic fascist arab nationalist. Isis did not
murder the Jordanian pilot for the sake of Syria -----they
murdered him because he is not ISIS

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

what are you calling "SYRIA" I can assure you----Isis did not kill the pilot in SUPPORT OF ASSAD or------the general population of Syria

 

[Yarddog]

A disagreement?

Erdogan is right-----islam is islam ------there are basis principles to which virtually all sects of islam adhere
(virtually all means most but not ALL) Violent jihad
is one of them and hatred of those who do not accept islam
as THE ONE TRUE RELIGION is another

Violent jihad? Is there any other kind?

I tend to agree with the guy though about ALL religions.

The term moderate religion is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate religion. Religion is religion.

Just like there is no moderate lies. A lie is a lie. Some may be more harmful than others but a lie is never better than the truth.

you are right seal-----religion is religion. Hinduism is Hinduism. Hinduism involves lots of rituals and episodes
of fasting------and in its various sects dietary restrictions ---
and caste system stuff. Some Hindus are more INTO
Hinduism than others and do real hard core HINDU stuff---
like long long fasts and long long episodes of standing on one toe and devoting ones time to a temple full of rats.
Judaism is Judaism -----some jews are more INTO Judaism
an do hardcore jewish stuff like spend a hundred hours per
weeks pondering over the Talmud. Islam is islam ---and some muslims do really hardcore muslim stuff-----like kill people for "insulting" muhummad.

what most people would call a "moderate hindu" would be one who does not spend five months standing on one toe..
A moderate jew would not spend more than one hour per week pondering the Talmud and a moderate muslim is one
who does not kill people for "insulting" muhummad

Today Christians are screaming that Islam is trying to take over the world. Sound familiar?

The early KKK, up until around the 1930s, adhered to a nationalist brand of Protestantism which led them to target Jews and Catholics. During the Depression-era, however, Christian Identity, a fringe sect derived from British Israelism that uses Biblical quotes to justify white supremacy, began to be imported into the US. The Klan has been heavily entangled with Christian Identity since this period, especially since the 1970s and '80s, and has put more emphasis on anti-Semitism due to Identity's obsession with a supposed race war and view of the Jews as a force conspiring to wipe out and/or enslave the white race

since 911 Ive seen nothing but tolerance and accomodations made to the Islamic communities here.

 

[paulitician]

Why was Jordan bombing Syria in the first place?

Obviously Jordan considers Syria a threat to Jordan----King Abdullah is not a BAATHIST PIG which is why lots of
arabs hate him. Nasser tried to make his father a BAATHIST PIG----but it did not work out Apparently Abdullah wants to be like his father. ----which is why lots
of arabs hate him ------and murdered his great grandfather
who was also not a rabic fascist arab nationalist. Isis did not
murder the Jordanian pilot for the sake of Syria -----they
murdered him because he is not ISIS

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

what are you calling "SYRIA" I can assure you----Isis did not kill the pilot in SUPPORT OF ASSAD or------the general population of Syria

I hear ya, but the Western Media spin is that Jordan is justified in bombing & killing in Syria. But actually, it isn't justified. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

 

[irosie91]

Obviously Jordan considers Syria a threat to Jordan----King Abdullah is not a BAATHIST PIG which is why lots of
arabs hate him. Nasser tried to make his father a BAATHIST PIG----but it did not work out Apparently Abdullah wants to be like his father. ----which is why lots
of arabs hate him ------and murdered his great grandfather
who was also not a rabic fascist arab nationalist. Isis did not
murder the Jordanian pilot for the sake of Syria -----they
murdered him because he is not ISIS

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

what are you calling "SYRIA" I can assure you----Isis did not kill the pilot in SUPPORT OF ASSAD or------the general population of Syria

I hear ya, but the Western Media spin is that Jordan is justified in bombing & killing in Syria. But actually, it isn't justified. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

why? Jordan is threatened by BOTH----BAATHISM and by ISIS (ism). In fact it is threatened by Hezbollah too---
which is playing a very prominent role in the conflict-----but somehow it does not get much press-------I predict it soon will

 

[irosie91]

Obviously Jordan considers Syria a threat to Jordan----King Abdullah is not a BAATHIST PIG which is why lots of
arabs hate him. Nasser tried to make his father a BAATHIST PIG----but it did not work out Apparently Abdullah wants to be like his father. ----which is why lots
of arabs hate him ------and murdered his great grandfather
who was also not a rabic fascist arab nationalist. Isis did not
murder the Jordanian pilot for the sake of Syria -----they
murdered him because he is not ISIS

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

what are you calling "SYRIA" I can assure you----Isis did not kill the pilot in SUPPORT OF ASSAD or------the general population of Syria

I hear ya, but the Western Media spin is that Jordan is justified in bombing & killing in Syria. But actually, it isn't justified. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

really----you seem to be convinced or your "Jordan stay out"
position. -----give me the impression that you consider the
overwhelming bombing and killing in Syria and Iraq
"""justified"""

 

[paulitician]

Did you watch the video? I did. I watched the entire thing. They claim it's retaliation for Jordan's unprovoked bombing & killing in Syria. And i hate to say it, but they're actually right. Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. It's not their war. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

I do not have speakers. If that is what the ISIS guy said---
then he seems to be referring to PRO ISIS elements in
Syria -------there are lots of factions in Syria right now battling it out-------some are PRO ISIS------others are ANTI ISIS....
Jordan at this time-----is anti isis. The Syrian government---
such as it is-----is ANTI-ISIS ----and pro Hezbollah

ISIS sees the Jordanian bombings as an unprovoked attack. And i hate to admit it, but they're right. Jordan shouldn't be bombing Syria.

what are you calling "SYRIA" I can assure you----Isis did not kill the pilot in SUPPORT OF ASSAD or------the general population of Syria

I hear ya, but the Western Media spin is that Jordan is justified in bombing & killing in Syria. But actually, it isn't justified. Jordan should have stayed out of it.

really----you seem to be convinced or your "Jordan stay out"
position. -----give me the impression that you consider the
overwhelming bombing and killing in Syria and Iraq
"""justified"""

Jordan has no legitimate justification for bombing Syria. Just because the U.S. and the West want it to, doesn't mean it's justified. It's not their war. Period, end of story.

 

[nodoginnafight]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

 

[paulitician]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Heard it all before. It's always all about the Nazis.

Jordan has no right, nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

 

[nodoginnafight]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Jordan has no right nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

You are entitled to your opinion. History has proven it to be the incorrect one, but you are entitled to it.

I prefer a more realistic approach.

 

[paulitician]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Jordan has no right nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

You are entitled to your opinion. History has proven it to be the incorrect one, but you are entitled to it.

I prefer a more realistic approach.

Despite what your Government and Corporate Media is telling you, ISIS is not the Nazis. I know it's hard for most Americans to accept that, but it's the actual reality.

 

[nodoginnafight]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Jordan has no right nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

You are entitled to your opinion. History has proven it to be the incorrect one, but you are entitled to it.

I prefer a more realistic approach.

Despite what your Government and Corporate Media is telling you, ISIS is not the Nazis. I know it's hard for most Americans to accept that, but it's the actual reality.

Never thought they were.
ISIS is a regional threat (like the Nazis were when Chamberlain played your game - how'd that work out for him?)

Let me repeat - ISIS is a regional threat. So the more participation from that region in eliminating that threat - the better.

 

[sealybobo]

A disagreement?

Erdogan is right-----islam is islam ------there are basis principles to which virtually all sects of islam adhere
(virtually all means most but not ALL) Violent jihad
is one of them and hatred of those who do not accept islam
as THE ONE TRUE RELIGION is another

Violent jihad? Is there any other kind?

I tend to agree with the guy though about ALL religions.

The term moderate religion is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate religion. Religion is religion.

Just like there is no moderate lies. A lie is a lie. Some may be more harmful than others but a lie is never better than the truth.

you are right seal-----religion is religion. Hinduism is Hinduism. Hinduism involves lots of rituals and episodes
of fasting------and in its various sects dietary restrictions ---
and caste system stuff. Some Hindus are more INTO
Hinduism than others and do real hard core HINDU stuff---
like long long fasts and long long episodes of standing on one toe and devoting ones time to a temple full of rats.
Judaism is Judaism -----some jews are more INTO Judaism
an do hardcore jewish stuff like spend a hundred hours per
weeks pondering over the Talmud. Islam is islam ---and some muslims do really hardcore muslim stuff-----like kill people for "insulting" muhummad.

what most people would call a "moderate hindu" would be one who does not spend five months standing on one toe..
A moderate jew would not spend more than one hour per week pondering the Talmud and a moderate muslim is one
who does not kill people for "insulting" muhummad

Today Christians are screaming that Islam is trying to take over the world. Sound familiar?

The early KKK, up until around the 1930s, adhered to a nationalist brand of Protestantism which led them to target Jews and Catholics. During the Depression-era, however, Christian Identity, a fringe sect derived from British Israelism that uses Biblical quotes to justify white supremacy, began to be imported into the US. The Klan has been heavily entangled with Christian Identity since this period, especially since the 1970s and '80s, and has put more emphasis on anti-Semitism due to Identity's obsession with a supposed race war and view of the Jews as a force conspiring to wipe out and/or enslave the white race

since 911 Ive seen nothing but tolerance and accomodations made to the Islamic communities here.

As you should. But don't think we aren't spying on the ones who were not born here and their first generation kids.

Hell we are spying on everyone. With computers they can keep track of anyone who types in the word jihad. And if you are visiting or communicating with anyone overseas you are on a list.

My concern is I have an Iranian friend who goes to visit often. And when he's here he has the freedom to buy guns or meet with other Iranians. How do we know he's not going for all queda training? He isn't but how do we know?

I'm surprised it doesn't happen more. Remember the blizzard in NY ne and Boston? I can't believe terrorists don't go on a killing spree in a storm. Use snowmobiles. Might even get away. Slip back into Dearborn where millions of Arabs live. Pretend to be Chaldeans when you come to america and really be Muslims. Scary

 

[paulitician]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Jordan has no right nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

You are entitled to your opinion. History has proven it to be the incorrect one, but you are entitled to it.

I prefer a more realistic approach.

Despite what your Government and Corporate Media is telling you, ISIS is not the Nazis. I know it's hard for most Americans to accept that, but it's the actual reality.

Never thought they were.
ISIS is a regional threat (like the Nazis were when Chamberlain played your game - how'd that work out for him?)

Let me repeat - ISIS is a regional threat. So the more participation from that region in eliminating that threat - the better.

The Royal Family is hanging by a very slim thread in Jordan. If not for the U.S. and its $Billions in Tax Dollars and weapons, it would be 'off with their heads' for em. Ironically, this meddling in Syria may actually accelerate their demise. It might just backfire bigtime.

 

[sealybobo]

This is Jordan's war. If they bury their heads in the sand, they will be next.

Isolationism did work out that well for Chamberlain either.

Yeah sure, just bomb anywhere and everywhere to prevent another future 'Nazi Takeover.' 'Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace' and all that. Jordan has no right nor justification for bombing in Syria. They're doing it because their Western puppet masters have ordered them to. But they may regret that decision someday. The royal family might just lose their heads over it.

You are entitled to your opinion. History has proven it to be the incorrect one, but you are entitled to it.

I prefer a more realistic approach.

Despite what your Government and Corporate Media is telling you, ISIS is not the Nazis. I know it's hard for most Americans to accept that, but it's the actual reality.

Isis might want to take over the world but they don't have 1 Muslim country that they control. They've taken control of some cities but they've yet to win an entire country.

Does Isis officially run Syria?