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wow... could krugman's words be more twisted by the rightwingnuts if they tried?
doubt it.
What was twisted?
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wow... could krugman's words be more twisted by the rightwingnuts if they tried?
doubt it.
Paul Krugman has affirmatively stated that the solution to our financial debacle involves a combination of Death Panels and Sales Taxes.
Well, at least he's honest.
WRONG!
Krugman said the solution to Medicare was a combination of death panels and VAT's.
This is hardly news, anybody with any sense recognizes that we already have death panels and we need them.
As for VAT's, well that depends on how discriminating the panels are. They could reduce benefits, or they can raise more money to pay for existing services.
So was Palin lying or not?
wow... could krugman's words be more twisted by the rightwingnuts if they tried?
doubt it.
What was twisted?
You are making the mistake of thinking that Government Panels to decide what is proper health care for INDIVIDUALS is a valid concept in the first place.
You are making the mistake of thinking that Government Panels to decide what is proper health care for INDIVIDUALS is a valid concept in the first place.
wow... could krugman's words be more twisted by the rightwingnuts if they tried?
doubt it.
What was twisted?
What was twisted is that Krugman spoke in plain clear English what the intent of Nationalized Medicine has been all along:
Collective control so that maximum productivity is extracted from the workers and the least amount possible is spent maintaining them after they have ceased being productive.
November 14, 2010, 12:40 pm
Death Panels and Sales Taxes
I said something deliberately provocative on This Week, so I think Id better clarify what I meant (which I did on the show, but it cant hurt to say it again.)
So, what I said is that the eventual resolution of the deficit problem both will and should rely on death panels and sales taxes. What I meant is that
(a) health care costs will have to be controlled, which will surely require having Medicare and Medicaid decide what theyre willing to pay for not really death panels, of course, but consideration of medical effectiveness and, at some point, how much were willing to spend for extreme care
(b) well need more revenue several percent of GDP which might most plausibly come from a value-added tax
And if we do those two things, were most of the way toward a sustainable budget.
By the way, Ive said this before.
Now, you may declare that this is politically impossible. But medical costs must be controlled somehow, or nothing works. And is a modest VAT really so much more implausible than ending the mortgage interest deduction?
So thats my plan. And I believe that some day maybe in the first Chelsea Clinton administration it will actually happen.
Update: Henry Aaron is thinking along similar lines.
Economics and Politics - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
Paul Krugman has affirmatively stated that the solution to our financial debacle involves a combination of Death Panels and Sales Taxes.
Well, at least he's honest.
RUTH MARCUS, WASHINGTON POST: Right now, 75 percent of people believe you could balance the budget without touching Medicare or Social Security; 75 percent of people believe that you can balance the budget without raising taxes. Well, you could, but it would be extraordinarily painful.
People need to get a little bit of reality therapy. There's going to be another dose coming on Wednesday when another group is going to submit their recommendations, very concrete recommendations about how to do it. That's the conversation we need to have before we start picking apart solutions.
PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES: If they were going to do reality therapy, they should have said, OK, look, Medicare is going to have to decide what it's going to pay for. And at least for starters, it's going to have to decide which medical procedures are not effective at all and should not be paid for at all. In other words, it should have endorsed the panel that was part of the health care reform.
If it's not even -- if the commission isn't even brave enough to take on the death panels people, then it's doing no good at all. It's not educating the public. It's not telling people about the kinds of choices that need to be made.
A few minutes later:
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, HOST: But what is going to happen? I mean, are you clear on where a compromise is going to be? It's got to be discussed before the end of the year, no?
KRUGMAN: No. Some years down the pike, we're going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes. It's going to be that we're actually going to take Medicare under control, and we're going to have to get some additional revenue, probably from a VAT. But it's not going to happen now...
Paul Krugman Recommends 'Death Panels' to Help Balance Budget | NewsBusters.org
Paul Krugman has affirmatively stated that the solution to our financial debacle involves a combination of Death Panels and Sales Taxes.
Well, at least he's honest.
RUTH MARCUS, WASHINGTON POST: Right now, 75 percent of people believe you could balance the budget without touching Medicare or Social Security; 75 percent of people believe that you can balance the budget without raising taxes. Well, you could, but it would be extraordinarily painful.
People need to get a little bit of reality therapy. There's going to be another dose coming on Wednesday when another group is going to submit their recommendations, very concrete recommendations about how to do it. That's the conversation we need to have before we start picking apart solutions.
PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES: If they were going to do reality therapy, they should have said, OK, look, Medicare is going to have to decide what it's going to pay for. And at least for starters, it's going to have to decide which medical procedures are not effective at all and should not be paid for at all. In other words, it should have endorsed the panel that was part of the health care reform.
If it's not even -- if the commission isn't even brave enough to take on the death panels people, then it's doing no good at all. It's not educating the public. It's not telling people about the kinds of choices that need to be made.
A few minutes later:
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, HOST: But what is going to happen? I mean, are you clear on where a compromise is going to be? It's got to be discussed before the end of the year, no?
KRUGMAN: No. Some years down the pike, we're going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes. It's going to be that we're actually going to take Medicare under control, and we're going to have to get some additional revenue, probably from a VAT. But it's not going to happen now...
Paul Krugman Recommends 'Death Panels' to Help Balance Budget | NewsBusters.org
News buster?
wow , the disinformation network of the right.
You people can NEVER allow a guy to make a joke can you.
I guess there would be tape but brietbart didnt have time to make it yet.
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You are making the mistake of thinking that Government Panels to decide what is proper health care for INDIVIDUALS is a valid concept in the first place.