Kurt Russell nails it

[Orangecat]

BTW, Tombstone isn't the best western in history....lt's nowhere near Outlaw Josey Wales or Once Upon a Time in the West....Just sayin'.

High plains drifter…

 

[sparky]

There are no gun grabbers. There is no tyranny. No one has taken away anyone's guns

Did you read how they're trying to legislate militia's out Krich?

~S~

 

[Orangecat]

It's the same dishonest crap you children spew all the time.

Shrug.

The irony of the Twitter user using Tombstone as a reference for how cool Kurt Russell is for being pro gun is, Wyatt Earp was actually helping his brother enforce a local ordinance against having guns in town, in other words, dum, dum, dummm..... "gun control."

As for what Russell had to say, he's wrong, dead wrong. There will always always be people who think they can get the drop on you whether they know you have guns yourself or not. Just two weeks ago, I literally saw on the news, two black guys randomly try to take a uniformed cop's gun away from him, while he was buying something in a convenience store. They themselves had no weapons at all. It didn't matter that they could just visit the next state over where you could purchase a gun legally without background checks, permits, licenses or waiting periods. A criminal isn't going to be deterred by the fact that you may have a gun if he can get one just as easily. In the example I just gave, they're not even deterred when they don't even have a gun and you do! In the film, Tombstone, all the gang had to do was surrender their guns till they left town and that would have been the end. Instead they chose to have a gun fight and risk death, or at the very least risk killing a town marshal and his deputies and be on the run for the rest of their lives. Criminals aren't deterred by guns, jail, long sentences, or even the death penalty. In Texas, where guns are revered and gun ownership is skyrocketing, gun violence is going up, not down!

 

[krichton]

School students are almost always minors and are precluded from possessing firearms in almost all states.

A child can legally possess a rifle or shotgun in a great deal of states including Texas. They even make small rifles specifically for children.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There are no gun grabbers. There is no tyranny.

We'll Determine That at High Noon. Draw, Don't Doodle.

 

[woodwork201]

The irony of the Twitter user using Tombstone as a reference for how cool Kurt Russell is for being pro gun is, Wyatt Earp was actually helping his brother enforce a local ordinance against having guns in town, in other words, dum, dum, dummm..... "gun control."

As for what Russell had to say, he's wrong, dead wrong. There will always always be people who think they can get the drop on you whether they know you have guns yourself or not. Just two weeks ago, I literally saw on the news, two black guys randomly try to take a uniformed cop's gun away from him, while he was buying something in a convenience store. They themselves had no weapons at all. It didn't matter that they could just visit the next state over where you could purchase a gun legally without background checks, permits, licenses or waiting periods. A criminal isn't going to be deterred by the fact that you may have a gun if he can get one just as easily. In the example I just gave, they're not even deterred when they don't even have a gun and you do! In the film, Tombstone, all the gang had to do was surrender their guns till they left town and that would have been the end. Instead they chose to have a gun fight and risk death, or at the very least risk killing a town marshal and his deputies and be on the run for the rest of their lives. Criminals aren't deterred by guns, jail, long sentences, or even the death penalty. In Texas, where guns are revered and gun ownership is skyrocketing, gun violence is going up, not down!

The OK Corral was before the 2nd Amendment was incorporated against the States. It was technically unconstitutional then to ban guns in Tombstone but it is beyond doubt that it is unconstitutional today.

 

[woodwork201]

Wait, didn't we have armed and trained police officers too scared to confront a school shooter in Uvalde texas? How would a random teacher with a gun fare? Forget the teachers, we need to arm all the students.

Unarmed mothers weren't afraid to go in but the cowards in the standing army were too busy shitting their pants to go in and handcuffed the mothers. There was one deputy also willing to go in and they escorted him off the property.

 

[woodwork201]

Hey, dumb shit......they actually have training programs and train their teachers.......you are just an idiot.

Training or no training, the 2nd Amendment does not allow them to ban guns in schools. No historical analogues except applied to students. Just have every adult that chooses to have a gun in school to have a gun in school without any repercussions from their management.

 

[woodwork201]

You are an ignorant twit...

Many of the schools who requested training are in rural parts of the state. Among them, Licking County Christian Academy in Heath.
"I am fully prepared, physically and mentally, if someone comes in there with a gun and it's pointed out...definitely, 100%," said Joshua Lynn, school administrator for Licking Valley Christian Academy.
With a student population of 60, he says the school doesn’t have a budget to hire a school resource officer, and says the more armed teachers in school, the less it has to rely on local law enforcement to arrive in time to stop an active shooter.
“Our school can’t afford a school resource officer like other schools, so for us the only thing we can do is to arm staff,” he says.

Lynn says the decision to go forward with training came after watching what happened during a school shooting in Nashville back in March.
“The shooting in Nashville at Covenant School had a lot of parallels with our school being a small Christian school. It was very sobering,” he says.
In the Nashville shooting, a former student killed three 9‑year‑old children and three adults before being shot and killed by police.

'I am fully prepared': Armed teachers in Ohio start new school year

The state says 41 school districts have requested training. Ten school districts have completed the training through the state.

www.10tv.com

The miracle in the Nashville shooting was that everyone in the school wasn't killed. It was something like 10 minutes from entry until the shooter was taken out. She could easily have killed hundreds. She mostly stood around waiting to die, wanting to die, but if maximum numbers had been her goal, that would have been terrible. Her writings suggested that she did want to kill as many as possible but I think when some of these shooters get started, the reality of what they're doing hits them and they understand that it's not the same as their computer games.

 

[woodwork201]

Can you answer one question, would a teacher with 24 hours of gun training do better or worse than a veteran police officer against a mass shooter? Go.

A completely untrained teacher who sees the shooter will do much, much, better than the standing army police who was 10 minutes away, stopped on a highway somewhere, and looking to write traffic tickets - as were the cops in Nashville.