Las Vegas shooting - a point not yet made

[HappyJoy]

That Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings used an assault rifle?

None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

 

[HappyJoy]

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

Neither the LV shooting, nor any of the next 10 mass shootings, used an assault rifle.
Not. A. Single. One.
That aside - what's your point?

Sure bud. I enjoy the distinction between military and sporting grade weapons as much as the next guy. But we're not talking about what the U.S. Army is using.

Why do you refuse to understand that none of these shootings were committed with an assault rifle?
That aside - what's your point?

I'm referring to the weapons commonly referred to as assault weapons or assault style weapons. I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.

Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.

Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.

The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.

The guy was impressive, that much is for sure. His ability to simultaneously fire weapons of differing calibers from different floors is almost super human. One man, from at least four vantage points at exactly the same time.He used this to herd people into a kill zone.

YOu would have to link to that evidence.

No problem.

Video shows moment 'multiple shooters open fire on crowd Las Vegas'

 

[M14 Shooter]

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

Neither the LV shooting, nor any of the next 10 mass shootings, used an assault rifle.
Not. A. Single. One.
That aside - what's your point?

Sure bud. I enjoy the distinction between military and sporting grade weapons as much as the next guy. But we're not talking about what the U.S. Army is using.

Why do you refuse to understand that none of these shootings were committed with an assault rifle?
That aside - what's your point?

I'm referring to the weapons commonly referred to as assault weapons or assault style weapons. I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

Ah - so you dishonestly -chose- to use the term "assault rifle" when you knew that term is incorrect.
Glad we could get that out of the way.

OK then.
The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point?

 

[2aguy]

Because you refuse to pay attention.

That he didn't do it the way you think would have been best?

Its clear you aren't willing to consider this issue in a rational, reasoned way.
Get well soon.

That Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings used an assault rifle? I mean, I can understand being afraid of losing your privileges, but to make up your own mythologies about why this guy didn't use some obscure weapon that most Americans never heard of is you just lying to yourself.

Look at this for example:

What the deadliest mass shootings have in common

Since Columbine (according to this September 2019 article) there have been 115 mass shootings. Of those attackes assault weapons were only used in a little more than 25% but accounted for 40% of the casualties and 69% of all injuries.

Assault weapons are more dangerous than hand guns and other weapons. It's just the way it is.

It is the target location....as we keep showing you...and the time it takes for someone to shoot back and stop the shooter.......again...

Gilroy...same rifle as the las vegas shooter.....3 killed...stopped by people with guns.

Dayton...same rifle as the las vegas shooter....9 killed...stopped by people with guns.


Russian shooter in Kerch, Russia. 5 shot, pump action shotgun...20 killed, 70 injured with the police station 300 meters away.

Texas Church shooting....shooter had the same type of shotgun, 5 shot, pump action..killed two, stopped in 6 seconds by armed citizen.

It isn't the gun, it isn't the magazine...it is the time the shooter has to kill before someone uses a gun to stop them....

Again.....18 million of these guns in private hands....and ladders kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles....bicycles kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles...

A rental truck killed 86 people and injured 435....so no matter how good cars are, it doesn't happen in Nice, France.

You can fail to make your point again and again. Assault Rifles result in more deaths and injuries when used vs other weapons. I've already provided that. 25% of mass shootings use assault weapons 40% of deaths and 69% of injuries result.

No......that isn't true...... 2 pistols at Virginia Tech were the # 2 killing weapon after Las Vegas.....it was the choice of target, not the weapon that is the factor...you can pretend that isn't true all you want, but that is the truth. 2 pistols would have killed just as many people in any of the other shootings where a rifle was used....the only one where a rifle made a difference was in Las Vegas where the shooter was firing 400 yards away from the target....

You don't know what you are talking about.....

 

[2aguy]

None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

And your deflection is noted........

Each one of the shootings you listed with rifles? Could have been done with pistols. The only exception is Las Vegas where the shooter was firing over 400 yards from the target. So your point falls apart...again.

18 million AR-15 rifles in private hands....and ladders kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.......bicycles kill more people than AR-15 rifles do...every single year.....

Bicycles are nice...but that doesn't change how many people they kill........

 

[Faun]

The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.

Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.

Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.

The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.

The guy was impressive, that much is for sure. His ability to simultaneously fire weapons of differing calibers from different floors is almost super human. One man, from at least four vantage points at exactly the same time.He used this to herd people into a kill zone.

YOu would have to link to that evidence.

No problem.

Video shows moment 'multiple shooters open fire on crowd Las Vegas'

Fruitcake, your link says nothing about multiple floors and the "multiple shooter" claim came from one person there who thought that.

 

[Faun]

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

And your deflection is noted........

Each one of the shootings you listed with rifles? Could have been done with pistols. The only exception is Las Vegas where the shooter was firing over 400 yards from the target. So your point falls apart...again.

18 million AR-15 rifles in private hands....and ladders kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.......bicycles kill more people than AR-15 rifles do...every single year.....

Bicycles are nice...but that doesn't change how many people they kill........

What a retarded deflection.

people accidentally fall off of ladders so let's ignore all the people murdered by lunatics with AR-15's

 

[2aguy]

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

And your deflection is noted........

Each one of the shootings you listed with rifles? Could have been done with pistols. The only exception is Las Vegas where the shooter was firing over 400 yards from the target. So your point falls apart...again.

18 million AR-15 rifles in private hands....and ladders kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.......bicycles kill more people than AR-15 rifles do...every single year.....

Bicycles are nice...but that doesn't change how many people they kill........

What a retarded deflection.

people accidentally fall off of ladders so let's ignore all the people murdered by lunatics with AR-15's

Ignore....never said that....what we keep telling you is your desire to ban these rifles is irrational, based on truth, facts and reality.....

The solution to mass public shootings is different from other types of gun crime...banning these rifles is not part of that solution......since, as pointed out, all of the shootings with AR-15 rifles would have been done with pistols or shotguns.....the only exception was Vegas...

18 million rifles......a few are misused....you want to ban all of them....that is irrational.

 

[Flash]

And?

Not sure why it isn't obvious:
The only reason he didn't use a rig like this is he didn't want to.
Thus, he chose to limit the number of people he could kill.

Remind me, how many people did he kill and historically how does that number line up with other mass shootings?

Las Vegas.... 58 killed...2 rifles used. ( firing from a concealed, fortified position into a tightly packed, unsuspecting crowd, of over 22,000 people)

Virginia Tech.... 32 killed, 2 pistols used...

Luby's Cafe.... 24 killed, 2 pistols used.....

Nice, Paris...muslim terrorist using a rental truck....... 86 killed, 435 injured

911, terrorist used four airplanes, 0ver 3,000 killed.

Just curious, what was the aftermath from that? Did the government take any actions to prevent this from happening again? Yes? OK.

The Federal government and several states banned bump stocks.

The problem is that the NRA was weak and agreed that bump stocks was a potential violation of the NFA laws and that gave Trump the green light to ban them on a Federal level. He did it through ATF edict.

The shooter in LV could have used other methods to rain down bullets on the crowd that would have probably resulted in more casualties.

Bump stock are just range toys and are not effective for anything except shits and giggles at the range.

 

[HappyJoy]

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

And your deflection is noted........

Each one of the shootings you listed with rifles? Could have been done with pistols. The only exception is Las Vegas where the shooter was firing over 400 yards from the target. So your point falls apart...again.

18 million AR-15 rifles in private hands....and ladders kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.......bicycles kill more people than AR-15 rifles do...every single year.....

Bicycles are nice...but that doesn't change how many people they kill........

What a retarded deflection.

people accidentally fall off of ladders so let's ignore all the people murdered by lunatics with AR-15's

It's impossible to have a conversation with people like this. It's excuses, deflection and more excuses.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's impossible to have a conversation with people like this. It's excuses, deflection and more excuses.

Do you always cry in your cereal and run away when someone catches you lying?
You dishonestly -chose- to use the term "assault rifle" when you knew the term is incorrect.

That aside....
The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point?

 

[HappyJoy]

It's impossible to have a conversation with people like this. It's excuses, deflection and more excuses.

Do you always cry in your cereal and run away when someone catches you lying?
You dishonestly -chose- to use the term "assault rifle" when you knew the term is incorrect.

That aside....
The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point?

I didn't lie.

When shooters use AR style weapons they kill and injure more. That your whole idea around preserving your rights to bare arms requires you to be dishonest doesn't bode well for your argument. Recognizing truths instead of arguing semantics is what is required to prove a point.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's impossible to have a conversation with people like this. It's excuses, deflection and more excuses.

Do you always cry in your cereal and run away when someone catches you lying?
You dishonestly -chose- to use the term "assault rifle" when you knew the term is incorrect.

That aside....
The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point?

I didn't lie.

You were fully aware of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles - thus, you lied.

The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The LV shooter fired 1100 rounds, with 480 hits (58 Killed, 422 wounded) for a 43.6% hit rate,
This is impressively low, given the target and distance.

Indeed, the casualties caused by LV shooter were -limited- by the fact he used a number of AR15s with bump stocks - he could have easily killed and wounded significantly more people with a different choice of weapon.

Now, no one knows for sure why this guy did what he did, and what he did made no sense at all - but it is clear, he deliberately chose to buy and use AR15s in lieu of other more effective weapons - weapons he certainly knew about and had access to.

The question: Why?
We'll never know, of course.
But, given what could have happened, we should be thankful he chose his weapons poorly.

The guy was impressive, that much is for sure. His ability to simultaneously fire weapons of differing calibers from different floors is almost super human. One man, from at least four vantage points at exactly the same time.He used this to herd people into a kill zone.

YOu would have to link to that evidence.

No problem.

Video shows moment 'multiple shooters open fire on crowd Las Vegas'

That video shows no such thing, crank. Go back to Infowars and try again.

 

[HappyJoy]

It's impossible to have a conversation with people like this. It's excuses, deflection and more excuses.

Do you always cry in your cereal and run away when someone catches you lying?
You dishonestly -chose- to use the term "assault rifle" when you knew the term is incorrect.

That aside....
The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point?

I didn't lie.

You were fully aware of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles - thus, you lied.

Nope. Again, you're playing semantics. You lose.

The Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings involved 'assault weapons'
So? What's your point

6 out of 10 and with assault style weapons they are more recent.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You were fully aware of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles - thus, you lied.

Nope.

Oh... so you were -ignorant- of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles.
Fair enough.

6 out of 10 and with assault style weapons they are more recent.

Ok...
So? What's your point?

 

[Jitss617]

None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

You don’t have to live in America

 

[HappyJoy]

You were fully aware of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles - thus, you lied.

Nope.

Oh... so you were -ignorant- of the fact the shooters in question did not use assault rifles.
Fair enough.

6 out of 10 and with assault style weapons they are more recent.

Ok...
So? What's your point?

That even those assault style weapons are only used in 25% of mass shootings they managed to be used in 6 out of the 10 largest mass shootings. Not sure why you can't understand simple English.

 

[HappyJoy]

Which shootings?

Las Vegas and something like 7 out of the 10 biggest mass shootings.
None of these shootings involved an assault rifle.
That aside - what's your point?

These?

1. Route 91 Harvest music festival, Las Vegas, October 2, 2017: 59 killed, 526 injured. - assault rifle
2. Pulse, Orlando, Fla., June 2016: 49 killed and more than 50 injured. - assault rifle
3. Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va., April 2007: 32 killed and 17 injured on campus.
4. Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newtown, Conn., December 2012: 26 killed. - assault rifle
5. First Baptist Church, Sutherland Springs, Texas, November 2017: 26 killed. - assault rifle
6. Luby's Cafeteria, Killeen, Texas, October 1991: 23 killed.
7. Walmart, El Paso, Texas, August 3, 2019: At least 22 killed, 26 injured. - assault rifle
8. McDonald's, San Ysdiro, Calif., July 1984: 21 killed.
9. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Fla., February 2018: 17 killed. - assault rifle
10. University of Texas Tower, Austin, Texas, August 1966: 16 killed around campus.

6 out of 10. I wonder what that number looks like post Columbine.

Pulse...gun free zone, the police did not enter......

Sandy Hook....gun free zone, the police did not enter before the killer killed himself.

Sutherland Springs.....26 lives saved when an NRA instructor with his own AR-15 rifle stopped the killer and eventually held him for police....

Stoneman, Douglas....gun free zone...the police did not enter.

Walmart, Texas...no one with a gun confronted the shooter....Texas church shooting, the killing was stopped in 6 seconds.

We could go on....but the one thing they all have in common.....gun free zones.....and the killing didn't stop till people with guns showed up......

Again.....18 million AR-15s in private hands.... 6 of them used over a 6 year period......average 2 a year.............

Ladders kill 300 people a year......bicycles over 300 a year...knives over 1,500 a year...

There is no rational argument for what you propose.......

Interesting that you brought up the Texas Tower shooting....do you understand that students at the university used their own rifles, from their cars that they had on campus to pin down the shooter? Saving lives? Do you understand that?

Sorry, most poeple aren't going to carry assault weapons with them. Unless you're advocating that assault weapons and alcohol go together.

Are assault weapons allowed around Trump? Or when your crazy ass wingnuts get up on stage and give a speech? If not, why not?

You don’t have to live in America

You don't have to live in/around Boston either.