Late fall and -10 F in Chicago...global warming?

[Old Rocks]

Something to consider if I was a Global Warming nut.

Methane (CH4) is a far more dangerous greenhouse gas than CO2, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The IPCC’s latest report, released this past Monday, reports that methane is 34 times stronger a heat-trapping gas than CO2 over a 100-year time scale. Methane’s current global-warming potential (GWP) is 34, nearly 40% increase from the IPCC’s previous estimate of 25.

Over the course of 20 years, methane has a global warming potential of up to 86, up from its previously calculated 72. This is far higher than CO2. The problem: most climate change studies do not take this increase into account.

The pressing issue: Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, as it is called, is alive and well and seen by many as a more environmentally friendly way to extract natural gas. Opponents have long known that fracking can lead to ground water contamination, denigrated air quality, contaminated water, and raised CO2 levels.

Methane Worse Than CO2 as Greenhouse Gas - Fracking Makes it Even Worse - The Green Optimistic

Hoss, old boy, you need to stop listening to the stupid bozo deniers. Of course the scientists take into account the contributions of CH4. And , in fact, track the CH4 levels.
Arctic News

Methane levels over the Arctic Ocean are higher than elsewhere on Earth. As the animation below shows, methane levels were as high as 2436 parts per billion (ppb) on the afternoon of December 5, 2016, with most methane rising up from the water, in particular over the Arctic Ocean.

While, for most of the world the CH4 level is 1800+ ppb, up from 700 ppb pre-industrial level, you can see that for some areas of the Arctc, the levels are over 2400. That would indicate the present source of the present increase is from the warming of the permafrost and ocean clathrates.

 

[skookerasbil]

Dart board designer science isn't resonating with the folks in 2016. All of the billions of fancy red maps that have been posted up on the internet in the past 20 years have had little of not effect on moving people. But bone crushing cold that has inundated the northern hemisphere in recent years sure has moved people......to conclude that the warmists are right only occasionally and wrong most of the time. When the weather landscape has a real significant change, that's when the folks will be moved. Not a moment sooner.

Most all of the members of the religion would do well to come spend a day or two in NYC and go down by 9th avenue and 55th street and watch human behavior on the street corner game of "shells. Then they MIGHT begin to understand why the majority thinks they have yet to make their case.

Not for nothing but when you spend your whole life residing in Scratchmyassville USA, you cannot possibly be a big picture person and will struggle understanding how human behavior works.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The alarmists fail to understand that human behavior is directly tied to climate change, specifically, the public's perception of it. Interestingly, the same perception the warmers spend their lives trying to create in the public is exactly why you see THIS >>>

December 5, 2016
Many Americans are skeptical about scientific research on climate.

Many Americans are skeptical about scientific research on climate and GM foods


Yep......according to PEW Research.......


"Some 28% of Americans think climate scientists understand the causes of global climate change “very well” "



Fucking..............duh............they've been hearing about the world ending any minute, thus expecting SOME KIND OF CHANGE in what they are experiencing outside...........and it never comes.

These meathead alarmists think the public is going to feel 0.6 degrees!!!!


That's not how it works assholes............when you go outside and within 3 seconds are looking for nut sack warmers, all of your warming bs is laughed at by the common man.


Like I said.....................duh

Most fascinating............these mental cases think they have made their case!!! Then why is the public yawning?

The public is yawing because for the most part they are too stupid to understand the science.

Most of those purporting AGW are too stupid to understand the sciences and why they disprove it..

 

[skookerasbil]

But, of course, you reject the thousands of published, peer-reviewed papers that present precisely what you ask for.

Cosmos had it right, right off the bat: "Ok, stupid"

Come to NYC right now and go ask 1,000 people walking on 5th Avenue what they think of the "peer reviewed" papers!!!

Ok, you understand that even with 2 degC of global warming over a century we're still going to have "seasons" and "changing weather" right? Half of Floriduh might be under water but it'll still get cold weather in winter.

s0n......that's what you call a fail to connect the dots effort. Don't worry.......many who are big time AGW folks struggle with dot connecting exercises.

I don't have to understand anything......nor does the public. Their conclusions will always be based upon their perceptions and what their senses are telling them. Some people are prone to being suckers in life..........ie: the losers who wake up in the middle of the night and watch the latest miracle anti-aging cream and rip out the credit card. They'll believe anything that the marketers/experts tell them.........suckers. But thankfully, most people aren't like that. Like Ive always said..........people will take "climate change" seriously when they see people water skiing on a lake in Siberia in the middle of January for 3 weeks and wearing skimpy bikinnis. Not a moment sooner. Plus, they've heard the bomb thrower predictions for decades now and nothing has come to pass........."no more snow"........"arctic ice gone by.........."........."Cat 5 hurricanes will be devastating the US"..........."Miami under water by 2017".

Only suckers are still moved by this bs...........and also is why in 2016, Americans concern for climate change is dead last on any list of concerns. And why Scott Pruitt is about to rip all these warmer assholes a new one!!


Nobody cares about the science........zero legislation on climate change in the past 10 years is proof. And climate change conferences that produce zero.


Bend over.............here come more bumpy cucumbers s0ns!!!


Who's not winning?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Something to consider if I was a Global Warming nut.

Methane (CH4) is a far more dangerous greenhouse gas than CO2, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The IPCC’s latest report, released this past Monday, reports that methane is 34 times stronger a heat-trapping gas than CO2 over a 100-year time scale. Methane’s current global-warming potential (GWP) is 34, nearly 40% increase from the IPCC’s previous estimate of 25.

Over the course of 20 years, methane has a global warming potential of up to 86, up from its previously calculated 72. This is far higher than CO2. The problem: most climate change studies do not take this increase into account.

The pressing issue: Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, as it is called, is alive and well and seen by many as a more environmentally friendly way to extract natural gas. Opponents have long known that fracking can lead to ground water contamination, denigrated air quality, contaminated water, and raised CO2 levels.

Methane Worse Than CO2 as Greenhouse Gas - Fracking Makes it Even Worse - The Green Optimistic

Hoss, old boy, you need to stop listening to the stupid bozo deniers. Of course the scientists take into account the contributions of CH4. And , in fact, track the CH4 levels.
Arctic News

Methane levels over the Arctic Ocean are higher than elsewhere on Earth. As the animation below shows, methane levels were as high as 2436 parts per billion (ppb) on the afternoon of December 5, 2016, with most methane rising up from the water, in particular over the Arctic Ocean.

While, for most of the world the CH4 level is 1800+ ppb, up from 700 ppb pre-industrial level, you can see that for some areas of the Arctc, the levels are over 2400. That would indicate the present source of the present increase is from the warming of the permafrost and ocean clathrates.

This means that a respectable percentage of the methane entering the system is natural feed backs from our green house forcing. This can only get worse.

 

[SSDD]

This means that a respectable percentage of the methane entering the system is natural feed backs from our green house forcing. This can only get worse.

Get a grip guy....the sky is not falling...in fact, it hasn't budged...

How much of the mindless hyperbole that you spew around here do you actually believe?

 

[miketx]

Trump's appointment of an alleged MMGW "denier" sparks the left's usual whining about pollution and clean and clean water and even National Parks but they won't argue about allegations that American decadence is a primary cause of world wide global warming.

Lies and more lies.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump's appointment of an alleged MMGW "denier" sparks the left's usual whining about pollution and clean and clean water and even National Parks but they won't argue about allegations that American decadence is a primary cause of world wide global warming.

Since when did the US become the world?

 

[Cosmos]

I don't have to understand anything......nor does the public.

Ok, Jethro. At least we know where you're coming from. If you aspire to being an ignorant boob in 2017 be the best one you can be.