Latest multiple shooting in Chicago….gang violence…shows another point about guns…..

[2aguy]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

 

[bucs90]

Yeah....but.....a grandpa in rural Indiana might sell his deer rifle to his neighbor without a background check. Gotta fix the REAL problem first man.

 

[Brain357]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

 

[dannyboys]

Yeah....but.....a grandpa in rural Indiana might sell his deer rifle to his neighbor without a background check. Gotta fix the REAL problem first man.

Millions of legal guns are quietly bought and sold traded between friends/family/neighbors every year. No background checks, no paper trail no problems.
Gun shows make up a tiny fraction of how legal guns are bought and sold.

 

[2aguy]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

Really….? That again….don't you have new crap to try out…..

 

[Brain357]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

Really….? That again….don't you have new crap to try out…..

Crap? It's your own argument:

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Based on your own post only criminals really need a gun for defense.

 

[TNHarley]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

 

[Brain357]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

 

[TNHarley]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

 

[ClosedCaption]

The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals

Well that was redundant since murder is violent and against the law

 

[Brain357]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

 

[TNHarley]

There was a shooting in Chicago on Tuesday…..3 teenagers shot…2 killed……police say it was gang related and a result of an earlier shooting that took place somewhere else…

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

Police: Shooting of 3 teens latest burst of gang violence in Grand Crossing

Donta Parker, 16, was shot in the head and Sakinah Reed, 17, was hit in the chest. Both were pronounced dead at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn an hour later, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Parker lived in the 7800 block of South Cregier Avenue, not far from the shooting, and Reed lived in the 9000 block of South Burley Avenue, according to the medical examiner's office.


Another 16-year-old boy was shot in the hand and was taken in good condition to St. Bernard Hospital, police said.

About three hours earlier, an 18-year-old man was shot in the thigh in the 7400 block of South Blackstone Avenue, also in the Grand Crossing neighborhood, police said. He was dropped off at Jackson Park Hospital and was in good condition, police said.

A law enforcement source, citing preliminary information, said the two shootings appear to be gang-related and may be connected. No one was reported in custody in either shooting


Now this points out another thing about gun violence in the U.S….there were 8,124 gun murders in the U.S. in 2014 according to the FBI table 8.

But…..as you can see here, guns are not used in each murder, and many times one gun kills multiple victims…so the true number of guns used to commit murder is smaller than the 8,124 victims.

For example….2 guns used in San Bernadino muslim terror attack…14 dead…..

So…..of the 357 million guns in private hands…..less than 8,124 of them were used to commit gun murder.

That means that over 356,991,876 guns in the hands of normal gun owners, were not used to murder anyone……..

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

 

[Brain357]

That really kills the idea you need a gun for defense also. Unless you are involved in criminal activity you are very safe.

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

 

[TNHarley]

I agree. Damn those pesky innocent victims of violent criminals! What right do they have?!

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

 

[Brain357]

According to the op most victims are themselves criminals.

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

And the vast majority of rapes aren't defendable with a gun.

 

[TNHarley]

ay caramba

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

And the vast majority of rapes aren't defendable with a gun.

Link?

 

[Brain357]

The myth that normal Americans are dangerous because of guns is just that, a myth. The majority of gun murder is committed by violent criminals with long histories of violence and crime, and the victims are also career criminals with long histories of violence and crime…

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

And the vast majority of rapes aren't defendable with a gun.

Link?

Here are and stats:
Rape Statistics | Statistic Brain

Most victims are raped by a friend or intimate.

Another large percent of victims are minors who can't have a gun.

Another large percent are drunk or high and couldn't use a gun.

Most rapes are not defensable with a gun.

 

[TNHarley]

gun murder.. Nevermind..

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

And the vast majority of rapes aren't defendable with a gun.

Link?

Here are and stats:
Rape Statistics | Statistic Brain

Most victims are raped by a friend or intimate.

Another large percent of victims are minors who can't have a gun.

Another large percent are drunk or high and couldn't use a gun.

Most rapes are not defensable with a gun.

You are still talking about tens of thousands of people a gun could have helped.

 

[Moonglow]

I think it's great that thugs can get guns and kill each other with them.....

 

[Brain357]

Never mind is a good choice. You are losing quickly.

losing what? lol
Not every instance of violence ends with gun murder. Not even CLOSE
We have like 300K rape cases each year.

And the vast majority of rapes aren't defendable with a gun.

Link?

Here are and stats:
Rape Statistics | Statistic Brain

Most victims are raped by a friend or intimate.

Another large percent of victims are minors who can't have a gun.

Another large percent are drunk or high and couldn't use a gun.

Most rapes are not defensable with a gun.

You are still talking about tens of thousands of people a gun could have helped.

No you are talking about like a fraction of a percent.