Leftists: If You Could Do It Over, Would You Run Hillary The Hag Again?

[pwjohn]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Had Hillary not run, plenty of more than electable dems would have run in the primary's, anyone of which would have easily crushed that shitstain on all mankind currently occupying the whitehouse in the general election.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

 

[Thinker101]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

Poor poor Hillary and Bernie and liberals.....all victims.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Monday morning quarterbacking it may have made more sense to run someone other than Hillary

But whom? Bernie Sanders?
Bernie would have lost the popular vote and gotten creamed

Joe Biden? In retrospect, maybe Joe would have done better but we will never know. Hillary ran a good race. She won all the debates. She had a huge lead in the polls. Up until Comey dropped his bogus email bombshell ten days before the election. Even at that, Hillary still received 3 million more votes

What good did the 3 million votes do her?

She probably needed to win by 5 million votes to get elected. Would any other Democrat have received more votes? I doubt if Bernie would have. I like Bernie and support a lot of what he proposed. But he is a quirky candidate and I don't think he could have won

Comey swung the election. Otherwise, Hillary would have won by a large margin

It had nothing with the Hag being a bad candidate?

She ran a good campaign, won all the debates and was ten points ahead a month before the election

The timing of Comeys unwarranted bombshell ate that away

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

 

[Correll]

What good did the 3 million votes do her?

She probably needed to win by 5 million votes to get elected. Would any other Democrat have received more votes? I doubt if Bernie would have. I like Bernie and support a lot of what he proposed. But he is a quirky candidate and I don't think he could have won

Comey swung the election. Otherwise, Hillary would have won by a large margin

It had nothing with the Hag being a bad candidate?

She ran a good campaign, won all the debates and was ten points ahead a month before the election

The timing of Comeys unwarranted bombshell ate that away

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

 

[Correll]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

Any system that rests on the voting of the people is democratic.

That it is not a pure democracy, thank god, is not the same as being undemocratic.


Hope that clears that up for you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

She probably needed to win by 5 million votes to get elected. Would any other Democrat have received more votes? I doubt if Bernie would have. I like Bernie and support a lot of what he proposed. But he is a quirky candidate and I don't think he could have won

Comey swung the election. Otherwise, Hillary would have won by a large margin

It had nothing with the Hag being a bad candidate?

She ran a good campaign, won all the debates and was ten points ahead a month before the election

The timing of Comeys unwarranted bombshell ate that away

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

The polls only poll the popular vote.

 

[Correll]

It had nothing with the Hag being a bad candidate?

She ran a good campaign, won all the debates and was ten points ahead a month before the election

The timing of Comeys unwarranted bombshell ate that away

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

The polls only poll the popular vote.

They polled state by state and built predictions and they showed large HIllary wins.


So, any complaint based on a sudden change as the reality check gets closer is built on really shaky ground.


THe obvious alternative is that the pollsters as their final test, ie the election, came closer, they started doing their job better.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

Any system that rests on the voting of the people is democratic.

That it is not a pure democracy, thank god, is not the same as being undemocratic.


Hope that clears that up for you.

Depends on how far you wish to backtrack. The 'people' may have democratically chosen the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (and that's debatable)

but in doing so they chose the very undemocratic electoral college system of electing a president, protected by a very difficult amendment process to protect it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

She ran a good campaign, won all the debates and was ten points ahead a month before the election

The timing of Comeys unwarranted bombshell ate that away

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

The polls only poll the popular vote.

They polled state by state and built predictions and they showed large HIllary wins.


So, any complaint based on a sudden change as the reality check gets closer is built on really shaky ground.


THe obvious alternative is that the pollsters as their final test, ie the election, came closer, they started doing their job better.

wrong.

 

[Correll]

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

Any system that rests on the voting of the people is democratic.

That it is not a pure democracy, thank god, is not the same as being undemocratic.


Hope that clears that up for you.

Depends on how far you wish to backtrack. The 'people' may have democratically chosen the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (and that's debatable)

but in doing so they chose the very undemocratic electoral college system of electing a president, protected by a very difficult amendment process to protect it.

"Very undemocratic"?

Almost all the time the person with the most votes wins. It is very rare for the other factors built into the system to sway the result to the other side. And only in very tight races.


That doesn't rate "Very", at all, and not really "undemocratic" either.

 

[Correll]

The polls that showed that, still showed her winning a landslide right to election day.

I would not trust those polls.

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

The polls only poll the popular vote.

They polled state by state and built predictions and they showed large HIllary wins.


So, any complaint based on a sudden change as the reality check gets closer is built on really shaky ground.


THe obvious alternative is that the pollsters as their final test, ie the election, came closer, they started doing their job better.

wrong.

It is completely reasonable to suspect that a pollster one day out from being checked by reality, and thus held accountable, will be more careful about accuracy than one three months out.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

The question really should be, would the Republicans run Trump again? Why are you trying to deflect from the real issue with irrelevancies?

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

So the founding fathers "contrived" this in 1789.

Were the Russians in on it as well.

So change it.

I guess if you lose, try and change the rules - not that the Hag was a Terrible candidate.

 

[The Derp]

Different people, different policies. different times, for starters.

No, most of the same people...for fuck's sake, Trump's Transportation Secretary was Bush the Dumber's. The exact same policies. And the times aren't that much different. Stupidity still rules the GOP.

You really, really want to derail this thread, don't ya?

The only difference between the GOP of Bush the Dumber and the GOP of today is that the GOP of today's racism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry are overt. The fundamentals of their beliefs have been unchanged since 1980.

 

[The Derp]

Bernie is the only democrat to admit he's a socialist....don't you admire honesty?

No, he's a democratic socialist. There is a difference. Maybe you should learn it.

 

[g5000]

or an electable candidate?

I think the Dems would run Hillary again.

But the GOP sure as shit wouldn't run Trump again.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

One day....when they realize....(if they ever do that is)...

 

[Doc1]

Uh Trump won.

What is there to second guess.

Why did the DNC shaft Bernie?

Bernie got 'shafted' by the DNC the same way Hillary got 'shafted' by the electoral college. Both were victims of sets of rules that gave the win to someone other than the one who got the most votes.

What about the the DNC emails that said to hand it to the Hag?

Did the electoral college have those emails?

Any system that contrives to let the loser win is undemocratic.

Any system that rests on the voting of the people is democratic.

That it is not a pure democracy, thank god, is not the same as being undemocratic.


Hope that clears that up for you.

Depends on how far you wish to backtrack. The 'people' may have democratically chosen the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (and that's debatable)

but in doing so they chose the very undemocratic electoral college system of electing a president, protected by a very difficult amendment process to protect it.

You po chillins just don't like the fact that the Founder's refused mob rule. Go cry somewhere else.

 

[Richard-H]

Sure we'd run Hillary again, but we'd insist on U.N. monitoring of all polling places.