Let's run government like a business!

[OohPooPahDoo]

High on hysterics, but low on substance. If we had run our Nation like a Business, we wouldn't be in this deep horrific hole we're currently stuck in. No Business operates succesfully with this kind of shocking incompetence. It's actually the perfect time to start running our Nation like a Business. What other choice do we have?

OK. So shouldn't we try to maximize our government's long term profit then? Is that not the point of a business - to make money?

It's not too late to run our Nation like a Business. That can still happen. But we are running out of time. It's $16 Trillion and rising. Someone's gonna have to be the Adult and finally start addressing this catastrophic mess we're in. But I do understand many like you prefer to be hysterical & irrational. And that's why you can't be the people to fix the problems. You just don't have it in you. And i'm really not trying to insult you when i say that. I'm just saying hysterical irrational people cannot be counted on to solve incredibly difficult problems. Someone has to be a calm rational Adult. It is what it is.

OK. So let's run our nation like a business. Doesn't that mean eliminating the parts that aren't profitable - like society security and disaster aid - and using our assets, like the military, to turn a profit? Sorry, but maybe you conception of how a business should be run is different than mine.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Some ideas any Ayn Rand supporter will support:

- Sell off all airports, railway stations and ports to private investors.

- Run all state-backed businesses and institutions on a for-profit basis - e.g. libraries, operas, orchestras.

- Privatise all sewerage treatment, and have it operate on a for-profit basis

- Close all mail delivery and provision of electricity and water supplies in areas which are not profitable. Residents can pay extra to ensure they are supplied.

I suspect some might consider such a plan, some who can't or won't think beyond the ideology they have adopted by listening to AM Radio.

Let's assume for a moment all ports have been sold to the highest bidder. The Port of Oakland, CA will now be known as New Shanghai and the Port of Houston as New Riyadh .

 

[Saigon]

Wry Catcher -

I agree with you entirely.

I think most of us agree that business is better left to run things which require a for-profit motive to function efficiently, but I find the idea that roading, sewerage and libraries be run by businesses laughable.

I'd go further and say that I think internationally it is clear that governent must play a role in education and healthcare for it to run effectively.

Profit motives are an uncomfortable mix with services which we want all people to have access to.

 

[Erand7899]

Yeah it has to be the most extreme example because you really think that's what repubs want. You don't really think that though you do it because your party has nothing else. Or maybe you are just stupid. I dunno.

I'm sorry, I don't think its "extreme" for a business to eliminate the parts of it that are unprofitable and to try to maximize profit from the rest of it. You do?

Shouldn't a business try to maximize its long term profit?

The first goal of a business is to remain in business. If government was run like a business, then the business of government would be the object. The business would conform to the contract enacted between the people and the government.


Ignorance of business is what leads to the nonsense that we see from many of these liberal/socialist posters.

 

[Dot Com]

Wry Catcher -

I agree with you entirely.

I think most of us agree that business is better left to run things which require a for-profit motive to function efficiently, but I find the idea that roading, sewerage and libraries be run by businesses laughable.

I'd go further and say that I think internationally it is clear that governent must play a role in education and healthcare for it to run effectively.

Profit motives are an uncomfortable mix with services which we want all people to have access to.

I'd take it one step further and posit that many con, Randian, ideologues think that capitalism is a form of gov't (thread to follow )

 

[HUGGY]

Let's run government like a business!

Ya let's..

It's the Koch brothers and Mitt Romney's wet dream.

Let's all pitch in and do it for THEM!!!!

 

[Greenbeard]

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

Let's run government like a business!

Bad idea, won’t work.

As bad an idea as a former businessman for president.

 

[Saigon]

Let's run government like a business!

Bad idea, won’t work.

As bad an idea as a former businessman for president.

I disagree with that - and I think a business background is a good one for politicians, as it means they "should" have a good understanding of economics and budgeting.

The problem here is not with business, but with ideological extremism.

 

[Saigon]

The first goal of a business is to remain in business. If government was run like a business, then the business of government would be the object. The business would conform to the contract enacted between the people and the government.


Ignorance of business is what leads to the nonsense that we see from many of these liberal/socialist posters.

You might want to check how many of us run profitable businesses before you say that!

 

[PredFan]

Let's run government like a business.

Make a budget, stick to it.

Balance the books.

how do you pay for wars?

How does a business provide for unexpected expenses?

 

[PredFan]

Businesses make profit. No one wants government to be profitable.

Limited thought process. Try thinking in more than just a sound bite.

Running the government like a business doesn't mean it has to have ALL the aspects of a business. "Running it like a business" can simply mean planning for the future, making a budget, sticking to a budget, and not sending money you don't have.

 

[HUGGY]

Businesses make profit. No one wants government to be profitable.

Limited thought process. Try thinking in more than just a sound bite.

Running the government like a business doesn't mean it has to have ALL the aspects of a business. "Running it like a business" can simply mean planning for the future, making a budget, sticking to a budget, and not sending money you don't have.

So you admit that Bush planned to invade Afgahnistan and Iraq....

 

[Ariux]

1) end all general welfare spending programs immediately. Including Social Security, disaster relief, health care for children, etc. These programs are simply not profitable.

Who says those things aren't profitable? Those are services the government provides in exchange for tax revenues.


Government is a monopoly with a gun to our heads. Any business in that situation wouldn't have to provide good service or operate efficiently.

 

[Saigon]

Government is a monopoly with a gun to our heads. Any business in that situation wouldn't have to provide good service or operate efficiently.

If it was a monopoly, there wouldn't be an election to choose who runs the government.

 

[Ariux]

If it was a monopoly, there wouldn't be an election to choose who runs the government.

Did you wake up today with the plan to say the most stupid thing you could think of?

We don't get to choose who runs our government (we're offered an illusion of choice, which 99% of voters go along with). Even if we did have a choice, the ability to elect the CEO of a monopoly doesn't make it not a monopoly.

 

[Saigon]

If it was a monopoly, there wouldn't be an election to choose who runs the government.

Did you wake up today with the plan to say the most stupid thing you could think of?

We don't get to choose who runs our government (we're offered an illusion of choice, which 99% of voters go along with). Even if we did have a choice, the ability to elect the CEO of a monopoly doesn't make it not a monopoly.

Of course you have a choice. The election is a choice.

Obviously no sane candidate is going to present the kind of policies you would support, but that does not mean sane voters do not have choice.

 

[Shelzin]

Hey guys!

Let's run government like a business!


1) end all general welfare spending programs immediately. Including Social Security, disaster relief, health care for children, etc. These programs are simply not profitable.

2) start using our government's assets to make money. Some ideas
a) rent out the use of our military to any nation or corporation willing to pay enough for it
b) make all federal highways toll roads
c) initiate fees for citizens and non-citizens alike to pass through border and customs enforcement at the border. ICE should be made profitable.


Any other ideas to make our government profitable like a business?

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[Ariux]

Of course you have a choice. The election is a choice.

By GOP rules, the delegates should have had a choice to vote for Ron Paul. But, the GOP leaders changed/broke their rules and didn't let the people vote for Ron Paul.

Campaign finance rules starve out 3rd parties, so where's the choice?

Where's the choice this November to vote for a viable candidate who won't support anti-Christian Israel, won't support deficit spending, and won't support all the other crap Jews demand in a candidate?

 

[Rozman]

Hey guys!

Let's run government like a business!


1) end all general welfare spending programs immediately. Including Social Security, disaster relief, health care for children, etc. These programs are simply not profitable.

2) start using our government's assets to make money. Some ideas
a) rent out the use of our military to any nation or corporation willing to pay enough for it
b) make all federal highways toll roads
c) initiate fees for citizens and non-citizens alike to pass through border and customs enforcement at the border. ICE should be made profitable.


Any other ideas to make our government profitable like a business?

I think it makes perfect sense.
It's fine to have social programs and safety nets but we need to be able to pay for these things.At some point the Liberal mind has to accept the fact that this country is broke.
We just can't keep spending money we don't have.

When is this administration going to accept this.