Liberal policy is unsustainable - which is why it ALWAYS leads to collapse

[P@triot]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

 

[Kosh]

Well if you think about it, it is those same far left policies that have made this planet over populated.

 

[P@triot]

Let's not forget this little gem...

"Early recipients of Social Security received more than six dollars in benefits for every dollar paid in Social Security taxes. Today and in the future, recipients will receive less than a dollar in benefits for every dollar paid in Social Security taxes"

What No One Wants to Admit About Social Security Taxes

 

[RandomVariable]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

Yes, this is the reality. What are we going to do about it? Republicans want to stick their heads in the sand and hope it goes away. Well it is not going to. The world is changing and we need to grow the economy to keep up.

 

[P@triot]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

Yes, this is the reality. What are we going to do about it? Republicans want to stick their heads in the sand and hope it goes away. Well it is not going to. The world is changing and we need to grow the economy to keep up.

I wonder what sources you turn to for your information...

• Republican's warned the world that Social Security was a nightmare in 1935. Dumbocrats rammed it down the throats of the American people anyway. Conservatives have since offered endless reform solutions and all have been ignored by the Dumbocrats.
  
  
• Republican's warned the world that Medicare and Medicaid was a nightmare in 1967. Dumbocrats rammed it down the throats of the American people anyway. Conservatives have since offered endless reform solutions and all have been ignored by the Dumbocrats.
  
  
• Republican's warned the world that Obamacare was a nightmare in 2009. Dumbocrats rammed it down the throats of the American people anyway. Conservatives have since voted to repeal it many times in the House and each has been ignored by the Dumbocrats.
  
  
• And worst of all - despite all of these warnings which history has proven the Republican's were right about - Dumbocrats have driven jobs overseas, hammering the proverbial nail into the coffin of these unsustainable communist "ideas" of the Dumbocrats.

You claim you want to "grow the economy"? Then repeal Obamacare. Approve tax reform and authorize a fair flat rate (which also eliminates all deductions and loopholes). Make that flat rate 10% on individuals and 25% on corporations. Eliminate the costly regulations and red tape. Approve all permits for domestic energy productions. Approve the Keystone Pipeline.

After these steps, the economy would be running like a Lamborghini on steroids. But Dumbocrats will never take any of these steps. Why? Because it would take people off of the government plantation. And Dumbocrats need the masses dependent on the government plantation because it ensures them votes for the oppressive power they crave.

 

[jillian]

Well if you think about it, it is those same far left policies that have made this planet over populated.

and yet every time the right runs things we go into a recession.

now let's address your point about overpopulation. the radical religious right wants to take away our ability to use contraception; wants to take away our ability to plan our families; wants to force women to have unwanted children;

so what were you saying about overpopulation?

or is it that we should allow children to starve to death in some insane randian nightmare??

 

[Billy000]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

We'll gee there is an easy solution for this. Raise the wages! 1% of the top earners own 40% of the nation's wealth. Surely corporations can afford it. If people earn too much money they do not qualify for welfare. Why don't you wingers comprehend this? Most people on welfare have jobs you kooks.

 

[P@triot]

Well if you think about it, it is those same far left policies that have made this planet over populated.

and yet every time the right runs things we go into a recession.

now let's address your point about overpopulation. the radical religious right wants to take away our ability to use contraception; wants to take away our ability to plan our families; wants to force women to have unwanted children;

so what were you saying about overpopulation?

or is it that we should allow children to starve to death in some insane randian nightmare??

I love the false narratives of liberals. There is a difference between "wanting to take away contraception use" and expecting liberals to be big boys and girls and pay for their own damn contraception (because, of course, liberals believe government should provide everything - including condemns).

Then of course there is that "ability to plan our family" false narrative. When you MURDER a baby, you are not "planning a family". You are committing a murder. If you want to "plan your family", conservatives would support that 100% (hell, it would be the first time in history that liberals planned anything). But that's not what you people want to do. You want to murder babies and call it "family planning". Trust me dear, Kermit Gosnell is not on trial for "family planning".

 

[P@triot]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

We'll gee there is an easy solution for this. Raise the wages! 1% of the top earners own 40% of the nation's wealth. Surely corporations can afford it. If people earn too much money they do not qualify for welfare. Why don't you wingers comprehend this? Most people on welfare have jobs you kooks.

Actually, there is a much better solution than communism (ie unconstitutionally forcing private industry to give people money). End the unconstitutional entitlement nightmare. Eliminate welfare. Eliminate SNAP. Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Obamacare. Problem solved.

Do you ever notice that liberals cannot come up with even a single solution that does not include placing a gun to the head of a citizen and forcing them to do something?

 

[Billy000]

Census Bureau says 86 million private sector workers are supporting 148 million benefit takers...

Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.

That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species.

All told, including both the welfare recipients and the non-welfare beneficiaries, there were 151,014,000 who "received benefits from one or more programs" in the fourth quarter of 2011. Subtract the 3,212,000 veterans, who served their country in the most profound way possible, and that leaves 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers.

The 147,802,000 non-veteran benefit takers outnumbered the 86,429,000 full-time private sector workers 1.7 to 1.

How much more can the 86,429,000 endure?

86 million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 million Benefit Takers

We'll gee there is an easy solution for this. Raise the wages! 1% of the top earners own 40% of the nation's wealth. Surely corporations can afford it. If people earn too much money they do not qualify for welfare. Why don't you wingers comprehend this? Most people on welfare have jobs you kooks.

Actually, there is a much better solution than communism (ie unconstitutionally forcing private industry to give people money). End the unconstitutional entitlement nightmare. Eliminate welfare. Eliminate SNAP. Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Obamacare. Problem solved.

Do you ever notice that liberals cannot come up with even a single solution that does not include placing a gun to the head of a citizen and forcing them to do something?

Man you have the worst critical thinking skills and apparently have no earthly understanding what communism even is. How is it asking for fair wages communism? It's okay with you that the mega wealthy are greedy and are reaping most of the rewards done by low wagers? It's okay with you that productivity in the lower classes has increased 2 fold since the 30s yet wages have remained flat and below inflation? It's okay with you that 95% of the income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners? Why is it justified in your mind? Asking for higher wages is not communism. I am not even close to suggesting we get rid of the wealthy class. I totally support capitalism. I just want reforms made. Why is that so treacherous to you?

Seriously dude, the mega wealthy in this country have you totally fooled.

 

[P@triot]

We'll gee there is an easy solution for this. Raise the wages! 1% of the top earners own 40% of the nation's wealth. Surely corporations can afford it. If people earn too much money they do not qualify for welfare. Why don't you wingers comprehend this? Most people on welfare have jobs you kooks.

Actually, there is a much better solution than communism (ie unconstitutionally forcing private industry to give people money). End the unconstitutional entitlement nightmare. Eliminate welfare. Eliminate SNAP. Eliminate Social Security. Eliminate Obamacare. Problem solved.

Do you ever notice that liberals cannot come up with even a single solution that does not include placing a gun to the head of a citizen and forcing them to do something?

Man you have the worst critical thinking skills and apparently have no earthly understanding what communism even is. How is it asking for fair wages communism? It's okay with you that the mega wealthy are greedy and are reaping most of the rewards done by low wagers? It's okay with you that productivity in the lower classes has increased 2 fold since the 30s yet wages have remained flat and below inflation? It's okay with you that 95% of the income gains have gone to the top 5% of earners? Why is it justified in your mind? Asking for higher wages is not communism. I am not even close to suggesting we get rid of the wealthy class. I totally support capitalism. I just want reforms made. Why is that so treacherous to you?

Seriously dude, the mega wealthy in this country have you totally fooled.

• First of all, you didn't say "ask for fair wages" you said "raise the wages" (ie force corporations)
  
  
• Second, who decides what constitutes "fair wages"? You? Are you so arrogant as to believe you know what's best for America? If not you, who? Obama? Please tell me A.) what the magic number is that dictates "fair" and B.) who sets that magic number?
  
  
• Third, who decides what constitutes "greedy"? You? Are you so arrogant as to believe you know what's best for America? If not you, who? Obama? Please tell me A.) what the magic number is that dictates "greedy" and B.) who sets that magic number? I mean, somewhere in the U.S. right now are a slew of hungry, cold, and homeless people (including children) and what are you doing about it? Spending a fortune on computers and internet service so you can hurl insults at people who have more facts and form better arguments than you. Talk about greedy! If those unfortunate people are ever empowered to decide what constitutes "greedy", you are so fucked. But hey, just keep ignoring those people as you hoard your own income you selfish hypocrite.
  
  
• Fourth, what constitutes "reforms" in your mind? All you said in your initial post was "raise the wages" (I have bolded it in red above so that there is no confusion) but you follow that up with "I'm not asking for communism, I just want reforms" - yet you outlined no "reforms".
  
  
• Fifth, why do you feel the need to meddle in the free market? If you don't like the wages Walmart is paying, why don't you open your own retail chain and pay the wages you want to see people paid? If you don't like the wages McDonald's is paying, why don't you open your own fast food chain and pay the wages you want to see people paid? Answer: because you are lazy. You find it easier to place a gun to the head of your fellow citizen and insist they obey you (like all communists such as Stalin & Castro) than be excited about the opportunities of the free market and make the changes you want to see by starting your own business and paying your own employees the wages you desire.

I would say I eagerly anticipate your response to these very fair questions, but we both know all we will see is your hurling more personal insults out of your frustration due to your inability to back up your very absurd position.

 

[KNB]

It should be pointed out again that the global "free" market isn't free since our number one agricultural commodity, Cannabis, is illegal.

 

[P@triot]

It should be pointed out again that the global "free" market isn't free since our number one agricultural commodity, Cannabis, is illegal.

That's the equivalent of saying the free market is not free since we do not authorize contract killers/assassins.

Free does not mean anarchy. Isn't it amazing how liberals are incapable of making an intelligent argument and instead scream that if you do not support anarchy, you're a hypocrite as a conservative?

 

[KNB]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

 

[S.J.]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

Obama and his Democratic majority in Congress could easily have legalized marijuana in the first two years of his presidency. I would say your beef is with him.

 

[KNB]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

Obama and his Democratic majority in Congress could easily have legalized marijuana in the first two years of his presidency. I would say your beef is with him.

What do you think We the People have been saying?

Remember Obama's "town hall meeting" with America's youth awhile back? People could ask him questions and he'd answer them to "the best" of his ability. THE VERY FIRST QUESTION above all other concerns that America's youth asked this President was about the decriminalization of Cannabis Sativa in order to reduce the prison population, create a sustainable economy, and cripple the police state. Obama gave some bullshit answer to the effect of, "Haha. No, that's not how to make America stronger." Except that We the People now know that this is EXACTLY how to make America stronger because it made America stronger than ever during World War II.

Yes, our beef is with Obama and every other corporate shill who wants to keep putting free Americans in cages for the same thing that helped stop the Holocaust.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

How about someone blow PCP smoke into your system? Would you have problem with that? How about cyanide gas? Or tear gas? Or pepper spray? Mace?

 

[S.J.]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

Obama and his Democratic majority in Congress could easily have legalized marijuana in the first two years of his presidency. I would say your beef is with him.

What do you think We the People have been saying?

Remember Obama's "town hall meeting" with America's youth awhile back? People could ask him questions and he'd answer them to "the best" of his ability. THE VERY FIRST QUESTION above all other concerns that America's youth asked this President was about the decriminalization of Cannabis Sativa in order to reduce the prison population, create a sustainable economy, and cripple the police state. Obama gave some bullshit answer to the effect of, "Haha. No, that's not how to make America stronger." Except that We the People now know that this is EXACTLY how to make America stronger because it made America stronger than ever during World War II.

Yes, our beef is with Obama and every other corporate shill who wants to keep putting free Americans in cages for the same thing that helped stop the Holocaust.

Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?

 

[KNB]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

How about someone blow PCP smoke into your system? Would you have problem with that? How about cyanide gas? Or tear gas? Or pepper spray? Mace?

Are you seriously trying to compare Cannabis to PCP, cyanide, or even pepper spray?

Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?

Myself.

 

[S.J.]

This is liberal sustainability:

It isn't "anarchy" since it was what built the United States. It was legal for over 200 years in this country and we weren't "anarchist" at any point, unless you count the failed Confederate rebellion when the South went to war to keep their slaves working in the hemp fields.

How about someone blow PCP smoke into your system? Would you have problem with that? How about cyanide gas? Or tear gas? Or pepper spray? Mace?

Are you seriously trying to compare Cannabis to PCP, cyanide, or even pepper spray?

Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012?

Myself.

Why doesn't that surprise me?