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Only by necon turds and their useful idiot accomplices, who were enabling the destruction of America.Obama is described as "destroying this country" by doing what Bush did that was described as "protecting America"?
oh, ok
Only by necon turds and their useful idiot accomplices, who were enabling the destruction of America.Obama is described as "destroying this country" by doing what Bush did that was described as "protecting America"?
oh, ok
Stop that, Conservatives always are for things while their person is in and when they leave THATS when they were wrong all along. The problem is that no conservative anywhere ever said a negative word about Bush while in office....Maybe they were against it all along but no one heard them? bullshit.
Sidenote: Repubs did the same thing in 2006, agreed and supported everything the senate and congress did, only AFTER they lost is when Hannity and the rest of the repubs said "They lost because they lost their way"
Everytime a conservative wins its because hes conservative, when he loses its because he wasnt conservative enough. Essentially making it impossible for conservatism to be wrong. its spin
It's very important to note that Bush has very low support even from his own party. Bush was a key reason for the split in the Republican party, Dems were so happy to announce this just a few years ago but today they like to claim the TPM and nearly all Conservatives are just Neocons.
Why people never seem to realize that Obama is doing just as Bush did to Conservatives.. He lied, he said one thing and did another.
At what point will Obama's supporters ask themselves why Obama has a reason for always doing the opposite of what he wants... I mean name a single issue Obama was able to do what he claimed to want to do.
I do not rcall GWB lying
he said he would lower taxes
he did
no child left behind
done
Medicare part B
done
In fact I am amazed that people have such little respect for him
OBAMA lied
from gitmo to the deficit
I don't get it. Some of 'you' posit President Obama is far left (one even suggested Bush was a centrist). What do 'you' mean when you call someone left, right or center?
Pejoratives, dysphemisms are loaded words used by advocates to negatively portray those with whom they disagree.
Rather than attack someone for their opinion, or attack an elected official ("Bush on steroids") one is better positioned by describing the policy or opinion with which they disagree and why; offering a solution to a problem or problems also helps. Otherwise 'you' might be presumed by the reader to be angry and thoughtless.
I don't get it. Some of 'you' posit President Obama is far left (one even suggested Bush was a centrist). What do 'you' mean when you call someone left, right or center?
Pejoratives, dysphemisms are loaded words used by advocates to negatively portray those with whom they disagree.
Rather than attack someone for their opinion, or attack an elected official ("Bush on steroids") one is better positioned by describing the policy or opinion with which they disagree and why; offering a solution to a problem or problems also helps. Otherwise 'you' might be presumed by the reader to be angry and thoughtless.
Calling someone a name by giving them a label means nothing. Liberal - Conservative, neither are bad in reality... It's the Liberal that grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad... It's the Conservative that Grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad.
You're post is BS because the first page (and OP) gave exact policies where the two are alike. If you liked Bush then you can't really bitch about Obama can you? If you like Obama then you can't really bitch about Bush, can you? I don’t know if you remember but Independents/Republicans and Democrats pretty much hated the shit out of Bush by then end of his second term… I have to repeat that ALL the fucking time because morons here LOVE to say “But you liked Bush then!” No, most didn’t, it’s just a simple fuckin fact, go look up all the polling.
Maybe YOU should give us a list where Bush and Obama are different, a list that should make us go, "Hmmm, Obama is different than Bush on important issues." Bush was one of the worst president in US history, so what does that make Obama, the greatest?
Put simply… Obama ran off not being Bush…. Well, in 2012 the GOP candidate or Dems in the Dem primaries can run off…. Not being Bush III LOL.
I don't get it. Some of 'you' posit President Obama is far left (one even suggested Bush was a centrist). What do 'you' mean when you call someone left, right or center?
Pejoratives, dysphemisms are loaded words used by advocates to negatively portray those with whom they disagree.
Rather than attack someone for their opinion, or attack an elected official ("Bush on steroids") one is better positioned by describing the policy or opinion with which they disagree and why; offering a solution to a problem or problems also helps. Otherwise 'you' might be presumed by the reader to be angry and thoughtless.
Calling someone a name by giving them a label means nothing. Liberal - Conservative, neither are bad in reality... It's the Liberal that grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad... It's the Conservative that Grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad.
You're post is BS because the first page (and OP) gave exact policies where the two are alike. If you liked Bush then you can't really bitch about Obama can you? If you like Obama then you can't really bitch about Bush, can you? I dont know if you remember but Independents/Republicans and Democrats pretty much hated the shit out of Bush by then end of his second term I have to repeat that ALL the fucking time because morons here LOVE to say But you liked Bush then! No, most didnt, its just a simple fuckin fact, go look up all the polling.
Maybe YOU should give us a list where Bush and Obama are different, a list that should make us go, "Hmmm, Obama is different than Bush on important issues." Bush was one of the worst president in US history, so what does that make Obama, the greatest?
Put simply Obama ran off not being Bush . Well, in 2012 the GOP candidate or Dems in the Dem primaries can run off . Not being Bush III LOL.
I don't need to list the differences, they're clear as one example can attest.
Bush spent borrowed dollars on a war of choice; Obama spent borrowed dollars too, repairing the damage done by the previous administration which spent unwisely (if you like foolishly).
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act used borrowed money to build and repair long neglected roadways, for example, benefiting communities in every state, providing well paid private sector jobs - borrowed dollars spent which were spent in cafés and movie theaters, at grocery stores and to pay rent and mortgages.
The on-going Iraq war cost the lives of 4,500 (or so) Americans and wounded, many permanently, thousands more. We will continue to pay the cost of the Iraq fiasco for decades; the roads build will continue to serve communities for decades.
Both used borrowed money; the use of the money is the issue not the fact that is was borrowed.
BTW, I purposely didn't used the words "liberal" or "conservative" as they evoke different feelings in different people and do not clarify, they generally confuse or create conflict. Similarly, left and right are evocative which is why a definition offered in posting would help for clarity. And calling an opinion bullshit isn't helpful either, it's rather childish when included in a post that has a bit more straw than substance.
oh gawd, not the "Bush isnt to blame because everyone thought it too" arguement. Who was the decider during Bush's term? Lets blame that person
The hate the left had for W should have them in a place that hate cannot do it justice for Obama
I am serious
Tax policy? check
Gitmo? Check
Deficit? W had 150 billion in 07, BHO has 1.5 trillion in 10, check
Iraqi freedom? on GWB schedule, check
Afgahn? lets utilize the same tactic we used in Iraq? GWB style? check
UE? GWB 5%, BHO 9% ck
stimulus? GWB has three for the tax payers, BHO has one bigger than those three for the unions, Check
BHO goes from medicare part B to OBAMA-CARE
check
BHO goes from no child left behind to no teacher left behind
I dare anyone to dispute this
If Obama is just Bush on steroids, why do the Republicans oppose every single thing he wants to do?
Because he's a democrat, the same reason you opposed every single thing Bush did, he didn't share your party affiliation.
oh gawd, not the "Bush isnt to blame because everyone thought it too" arguement. Who was the decider during Bush's term? Lets blame that person
Palin is making way to much money to run for president
I love her to death
Its about the cash
This thread has so much truth to it its scary
The left is desperate to change the subject
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I don't get it. Some of 'you' posit President Obama is far left (one even suggested Bush was a centrist). What do 'you' mean when you call someone left, right or center?
Pejoratives, dysphemisms are loaded words used by advocates to negatively portray those with whom they disagree.
Rather than attack someone for their opinion, or attack an elected official ("Bush on steroids") one is better positioned by describing the policy or opinion with which they disagree and why; offering a solution to a problem or problems also helps. Otherwise 'you' might be presumed by the reader to be angry and thoughtless.
Calling someone a name by giving them a label means nothing. Liberal - Conservative, neither are bad in reality... It's the Liberal that grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad... It's the Conservative that Grows Government and spends into oblivion that is bad.
You're post is BS because the first page (and OP) gave exact policies where the two are alike. If you liked Bush then you can't really bitch about Obama can you? If you like Obama then you can't really bitch about Bush, can you? I dont know if you remember but Independents/Republicans and Democrats pretty much hated the shit out of Bush by then end of his second term I have to repeat that ALL the fucking time because morons here LOVE to say But you liked Bush then! No, most didnt, its just a simple fuckin fact, go look up all the polling.
Maybe YOU should give us a list where Bush and Obama are different, a list that should make us go, "Hmmm, Obama is different than Bush on important issues." Bush was one of the worst president in US history, so what does that make Obama, the greatest?
Put simply Obama ran off not being Bush . Well, in 2012 the GOP candidate or Dems in the Dem primaries can run off . Not being Bush III LOL.
If Obama is just Bush on steroids, why do the Republicans oppose every single thing he wants to do?
Because he's a democrat, the same reason you opposed every single thing Bush did, he didn't share your party affiliation.
Oh, I get it now
So the Republicans really supported Obamacare, repealing DADT, Stimulus, extending unemployment, financial reform and credit reform after all
Or it proves that, despite attempts to create deep divisions over small issues, the nation and its parties are actually quite centrist and no single person has the authority to drag it dramatically in one way or the other.
Not exactly. What it probably proves is that the problems left behind by the Bush administration were far more complex then Obama realized. That...and there has been some very stiff opposition to changing course from the Republicans. The Republicans put up a record number of filibusters. Couple that with the fierce opposition to things like Trials in NYC for Gitmo detainees and you get a better picture of what really is happening.
The Republicans didn't say they wanted President Obama to fail for nothing..they wanted to make it happen.
what?
what problems did W leave behind has what to do with Obama dealing with them the way he has?
filler busters?
the voter filler busted his ass in Nov 2010
I was in a management training program in Sacramento the day Powell spoke before the UN. Everyone in that training had an advanced degree and had at least ten years experience in the criminal justice system on a local or state level.
After Powell spoke I was shocked by the drum beat for war by the majority of those attending. During that week I spoke with many attendees on the wisdom of war with Iraq and discovered only two others who had the same misgivings as I; they like me were Vietnam era vets, one was a combat wounded Marine.
My point being members of Congress made decisions to vote for or against the resolution; 156 members voted no. One memorable no vote was Ron Paul.
The act by 19 young men, most of whom were Sudai Arabian nationals was a criminal; act not an act of war. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was a choice made by the Bush Administration and was a huge mistake, if not a crime.
Not exactly. What it probably proves is that the problems left behind by the Bush administration were far more complex then Obama realized. That...and there has been some very stiff opposition to changing course from the Republicans. The Republicans put up a record number of filibusters. Couple that with the fierce opposition to things like Trials in NYC for Gitmo detainees and you get a better picture of what really is happening.
The Republicans didn't say they wanted President Obama to fail for nothing..they wanted to make it happen.
what?
what problems did W leave behind has what to do with Obama dealing with them the way he has?
filler busters?
the voter filler busted his ass in Nov 2010
You're kidding. The 2008 presidential election was put on hold by the REPUBLICAN candidate so he could rush off to Washington to deal with the looming financial crisis. And Boehner went in front of a skeptical congress and turned on the water works to get them to vote for TARP..a bill crafted by the darlings of Wall Street. Add in 2 wars and a collapsing employment situation, detainees that had their rights violated on numerous occassions making any trial for them a perlious legal mission, and an absolute abject disaster of an economy and you have the perfect storm.
Conservatives created this mess..partly in enrich their "base" and partly to fulfill the Grover Norquist meme to "starve the beast". Well Conservatives made government so dysfunctional, that the first two years of the Obama administration was spent digging out from the mess. And they want to put us right back into the same spot.
If Obama is just Bush on steroids, why do the Republicans oppose every single thing he wants to do?
Because he's a democrat, the same reason you opposed every single thing Bush did, he didn't share your party affiliation.
Oh, I get it now
So the Republicans really supported Obamacare, repealing DADT, Stimulus, extending unemployment, financial reform and credit reform after all