Liberals: WHERE the HELL are you now?

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After having one anuerism after another (or apparently pretending to) about the "Patriot Act" and about "enhanced interrogations" - I have yet to hear one liberal complain that both Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder believe the federal government has the authority to kill Americans without a trial.

Ted Cruz rips Eric Holder on constitutionality of domestic drone use ? Glenn Beck

Senator Mike Lee: ?Heaven help us all? if President can use drones on US soil ? Glenn Beck

WATCH: Glenn?s full interview with Senator Rand Paul ? Glenn Beck
 
Come on Rott....give them a chance now to come up with their excuses!!!! Lol!
They'll have a perfectly good reason why Obama should be able to do this....
 
We're right here - letting our twice-elected President do his job to keep America safe from terrorists - domestic and foreign.
 
How is this any different from all the so-called "conservatives" who kept saying "If you're not hiding anything, you have nothing to fear" about the Patriot Act during Bush?
 
This really illustrates how much Barack Obama hates Americans and loves muslims. When terrorists were being held without "due process" (which they are not entitled as the U.S. Constitution is not an international document - it applies to Americans only and only with regards to the U.S. government... an American in China is at the mercy of the Chinese government and has no rights) while he was a Senator, Barack Obama had a fuck'n hissy fit.

Yet, he says he has the right to kill actual Americans without due process. He is one sick fuck'n animal and it is very clear that he has his daddy's deep hatred for this country and its people.
 
This really illustrates how much Barack Obama hates Americans and loves muslims. When terrorists were being held without "due process" (which they are not entitled as the U.S. Constitution is not an international document - it applies to Americans only and only with regards to the U.S. government... an American in China is at the mercy of the Chinese government and has no rights) while he was a Senator, Barack Obama had a fuck'n hissy fit.

Yet, he says he has the right to kill actual Americans without due process. He is one sick fuck'n animal and it is very clear that he has his daddy's deep hatred for this country and its people.

The rights outlined in the Constitution are in no way limited to American citizens.
 
We're right here - letting our twice-elected President do his job to keep America safe from terrorists - domestic and foreign.

So then why did you throw a hissy about the Patriot Act and Enhanced Interrogations by GWB when he was "do his job to keep America safe from terrorists - domestic and foreign :lol:
 
This really illustrates how much Barack Obama hates Americans and loves muslims. When terrorists were being held without "due process" (which they are not entitled as the U.S. Constitution is not an international document - it applies to Americans only and only with regards to the U.S. government... an American in China is at the mercy of the Chinese government and has no rights) while he was a Senator, Barack Obama had a fuck'n hissy fit.

Yet, he says he has the right to kill actual Americans without due process. He is one sick fuck'n animal and it is very clear that he has his daddy's deep hatred for this country and its people.

The rights outlined in the Constitution are in no way limited to American citizens.

Your statement is so ignorant, it defies logic.

The U.S. Constitution applies to Americans only. It is not an international document. It does not apply to Mexicans. Canadians do not have a "right to bear arms" (just ask them). Ask Iran if they recognize their citizens "U.S. Constitutional rights".

It is strictly a U.S. document which applies to U.S. citizens only. Period.
 
How is this any different from all the so-called "conservatives" who kept saying "If you're not hiding anything, you have nothing to fear" about the Patriot Act during Bush?

Well, while those conservatives were definitely wrong, there is a monumental difference between what amounts to "data mining" information of U.S. citizens and killing U.S. citizens, wouldn't you say?

I'd much rather have the federal government steal and read my emails than kill me and my family with a predator drone. The fact that you can't see a "difference" (you exact words) is truly tragic.
 
This is also a clear illustration of what a bunch of uninformed, disingenuous fools the dumbocrats are. They still have no idea what the Patriot Act is - they just know that they were supposed to hate everything George Bush did or hate anything that Chris Matthews told them to hate.

The fact that they are completely comfortable with the federal government killing U.S. citizens without a trial but were upset by the federal government doing what amounts to "data mining" under Bush shows what a bunch of partisan fools the dumbocrats are...
 
After having one anuerism after another (or apparently pretending to) about the "Patriot Act" and about "enhanced interrogations" - I have yet to hear one liberal complain that both Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder believe the federal government has the authority to kill Americans without a trial.

Ted Cruz rips Eric Holder on constitutionality of domestic drone use ? Glenn Beck

Senator Mike Lee: ?Heaven help us all? if President can use drones on US soil ? Glenn Beck

WATCH: Glenn?s full interview with Senator Rand Paul ? Glenn Beck


What? Is that today's FOX authorized talking point or something?

Some of us HAVE responded to that question in the half dozen other threads on the same damn subject.
 
This really illustrates how much Barack Obama hates Americans and loves muslims. When terrorists were being held without "due process" (which they are not entitled as the U.S. Constitution is not an international document - it applies to Americans only and only with regards to the U.S. government... an American in China is at the mercy of the Chinese government and has no rights) while he was a Senator, Barack Obama had a fuck'n hissy fit.

Yet, he says he has the right to kill actual Americans without due process. He is one sick fuck'n animal and it is very clear that he has his daddy's deep hatred for this country and its people.

The rights outlined in the Constitution are in no way limited to American citizens.

Your statement is so ignorant, it defies logic.

The U.S. Constitution applies to Americans only. It is not an international document. It does not apply to Mexicans. Canadians do not have a "right to bear arms" (just ask them). Ask Iran if they recognize their citizens "U.S. Constitutional rights".

It is strictly a U.S. document which applies to U.S. citizens only. Period.

No.

The Constitution applies only to the US, but it doesn't limit the rights to American citizens. A Canadian who gets arrested in NY gets the same legal rights as you or I would, as would a Mexican, or any other foreign national.

It's not a matter of other countries recognizing our Constitution - it's a matter of us recognizing our Constitution - and our Constitution applies to anyone within the jurisdiction of our legal system, not just citizens.
 
Ahh yes, the old Republican/Conservative malady of wishing facts had any semblance to their crazy version of reality.

In other words, you can't speak one ill word about Barack Obama while his dick is buried in the back of your throat? :lmao:
 
How is this any different from all the so-called "conservatives" who kept saying "If you're not hiding anything, you have nothing to fear" about the Patriot Act during Bush?

Well, while those conservatives were definitely wrong, there is a monumental difference between what amounts to "data mining" information of U.S. citizens and killing U.S. citizens, wouldn't you say?

I'd much rather have the federal government steal and read my emails than kill me and my family with a predator drone. The fact that you can't see a "difference" (you exact words) is truly tragic.

Another "monumental difference" would be that Bush actually did wiretapped American citizens - whereas Obama has yet to use Predator drones in the US, and is staggeringly unlikely to do so.
 
The rights outlined in the Constitution are in no way limited to American citizens.

Your statement is so ignorant, it defies logic.

The U.S. Constitution applies to Americans only. It is not an international document. It does not apply to Mexicans. Canadians do not have a "right to bear arms" (just ask them). Ask Iran if they recognize their citizens "U.S. Constitutional rights".

It is strictly a U.S. document which applies to U.S. citizens only. Period.

No.

The Constitution applies only to the US, but it doesn't limit the rights to American citizens. A Canadian who gets arrested in NY gets the same legal rights as you or I would, as would a Mexican, or any other foreign national.

It's not a matter of other countries recognizing our Constitution - it's a matter of us recognizing our Constitution - and our Constitution applies to anyone within the jurisdiction of our legal system, not just citizens.

No, it doesn't. The U.S. Constitution does not apply to anyone other than Americans. You have zero right to remain silent if you're a Russian. You have zero right to a speedy trial if you're an Australian.

Now, have we traditionally extended them those rights? Yes. But do we have to? Absolutely NOT. You cannot have Constitutional rights if you're not a U.S. citizen. It really is that simple....
 
We are here, dickhead. We just don't want to play your fucked up game of "gotcha".

The POTUS has followed the law. Should the law be changed? Probably.

That would require that our fine Senators and Representatives write some legislation.

Liberals despise the idea of government over-reach.....especially of the violent variety. But we also have common sense. And we know when nutters are pretending to be patriots when they just want to fuck a dude over.

Asshole.
 
Your statement is so ignorant, it defies logic.

The U.S. Constitution applies to Americans only. It is not an international document. It does not apply to Mexicans. Canadians do not have a "right to bear arms" (just ask them). Ask Iran if they recognize their citizens "U.S. Constitutional rights".

It is strictly a U.S. document which applies to U.S. citizens only. Period.

No.

The Constitution applies only to the US, but it doesn't limit the rights to American citizens. A Canadian who gets arrested in NY gets the same legal rights as you or I would, as would a Mexican, or any other foreign national.

It's not a matter of other countries recognizing our Constitution - it's a matter of us recognizing our Constitution - and our Constitution applies to anyone within the jurisdiction of our legal system, not just citizens.

No, it doesn't. The U.S. Constitution does not apply to anyone other than Americans. You have zero right to remain silent if you're a Russian. You have zero right to a speedy trial if you're an Australian.

Now, have we traditionally extended them those rights? Yes. But do we have to? Absolutely NOT. You cannot have Constitutional rights if you're not a U.S. citizen. It really is that simple....

You need to re-read the Constitution. The legal protections of the accused apply to anyone here or under our control.
 
After having one anuerism after another (or apparently pretending to) about the "Patriot Act" and about "enhanced interrogations" - I have yet to hear one liberal complain that both Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder believe the federal government has the authority to kill Americans without a trial.

Ted Cruz rips Eric Holder on constitutionality of domestic drone use ? Glenn Beck

Senator Mike Lee: ?Heaven help us all? if President can use drones on US soil ? Glenn Beck

WATCH: Glenn?s full interview with Senator Rand Paul ? Glenn Beck

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