LIVE: Obama giving a splendid lecture/scolding to American peasants on guns! BANNED private sales!

[NYcarbineer]

Your right lass .

We should have guns available out of vending machines for anyone to buy! Is that what you want ?

No but an American should not have to register a gun, that's the first step in confiscation

Hold up. President Obama has not said anything about a registry.



Yet.

Hold up, if people have to register and pass an application to purchase a gun, does that not create a registry by default?

What's wrong with a registry? What is on your agenda that a registry might threaten?

 

[jon_berzerk]

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer

With another executive action hahaha what a joke. Look out criminals you'll no longer be able to buy a gun. Hahaha!

yes his new XO made it easier to get a NFA firearm (machine gun) --LOL

 

[forbegos]

Forget about Obama's political show this morning. It was only a show, nothing he said will ever be implemented because congress will not allow it by blocking funding and mass shootings will continue because they have nothing to do with background checks, and legal gun owners.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Your right lass .

We should have guns available out of vending machines for anyone to buy! Is that what you want ?

No but an American should not have to register a gun, that's the first step in confiscation

Hold up. President Obama has not said anything about a registry.



Yet.

Hold up, if people have to register and pass an application to purchase a gun, does that not create a registry by default?

What's wrong with a registry? What is on your agenda that a registry might threaten?

registry allows for confiscation.
an honestly, I dont think that our government can be trusted anymore. Considering we have had a muslim terrorist in the white house for the last 7 years, I cant see any good that comes from the government knowing who has what

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

This logic basically says we should have no laws because there will be people who break them .

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Difference is you're an idiot and I'm not.

You are honestly in favor of legalizing drunk driving anywhere smoking pot becomes legal?

If this weren't USMB, you might win dumbest fuck on the board.

actually, I think you just exposed yourself as an idiot. again.
your reading comprehension is that of a retard.

 

[OKTexas]

You can't have one set of standards for yourself and another for your neighbor.

OKTexas
1. For national and local standards to be consistent I recommend the basics here:
ethics-commission.net

2. For issues of belief, creed, that are NOT shared by all people
I absolutely INSIST that people keep their religions private.
the Hindus have equal exercise in private of their cultural rituals
as the Muslims and Buddhists.
As the Protestants and Catholics who don't agree on communion rites.
So why not have separate marriages in churches with different policies?
Who says "all people in all churches have to follow the same rules for marriage"
That is religious imposition to try to establish a national religion
that all people would be compelled to follow. Beliefs by nature must remain free choice.

3. People already fund their own religious schools that teach God and whatever
separately from public schools.
There are already Christian health share ministries with different rules for their members
than other insurance options are required to follow.

Why not give people EQUAL choice?
Why allow govt to regulate and dictate and try to make it the same for all people
where people have different beliefs?

4. If you are afraid this will be abused to create "separate but equal segregation" to deny rights,
why not discuss this and address it Constitutionally?

How do we manage the bakers and wedding services for people of conflicting beliefs?
Why can't businesses issue a "mediation" agreement to sign in order to conduct business together,
and if people can't agree on terms of arbitration or mediation, then they agree NOT to do business.

Why can't we agree on a safe process that protects people
but doesn't force us all to follow the same beliefs where we are naturally different?

Alaska has different laws from Texas, does that mean they aren't under the same national laws?

Sounds nice on paper, wouldn't work in a community of 300 much less in a country of 300 million.

We have to get rid of crime and abuse by working in communities of 300
before 3500 (the size of Rice U) and then 60,000 (the campus at UT).

If we are ever going to get govt in a manageable structure to represent whoever is paying the taxes.

By using a campus model for developing democratically managed infrastructure, businesses
and services http://www.houstonprogressive.org
this can accommodate any size, and string communities together to form a cohesive network,
that retains BOTH the advantages of collective larger govt AND the local accountability and participation in democratic processes.

The Parties already do this: have local elected leaders and conventions on Precinct scales, all the way to state and national. Why can't that structure be used to support health care coops and discounts FOR MEMBERS WHO AGREE instead of trying to establish one policy for the whole nation.

Don't want to sound crude, but screw the collective. The very foundation of this country is individual freedom. Are there responsibilities that go along with that freedom, sure, they should be kept to the bare minimum. I should be able to chose who I do business with using my own standards and not the fantasies of the collective, the market will determine if the business remains and flourishes or dies, but if the business dies it will be at the hand of the owner and not due to the whims of the collective. The same standards should be applied to all facets of life, what ever happened to live and let live?

Dear OKTexas
You are talking about people who are already so self-reliant we can run our own finances and programs.

But what about people with no social or financial training or education to be independent.
Look at students in schools. the learning takes place by working in classes, in groups, clubs and on teams,
like baseball or theatre, to deal with the individual responsibility and the collective goals BOTH.

People start off as freshman and maybe do part time work during studies.
Then move up to college, and take on internships,
or graduate school with residencies before moving on to professional levels.

Why can't we set up a tiered structure so people at ALL levels can start where they are comfortable
and work their way up the scale?

Nobody can be expected to move from kindergarten to college alone.
The govt does not need to micromanage this, each community should
work with parents and teachers to agree how to set it up to work for their district and represent them.

The parties and govt can be used to organize the facilities or districting
to house the process by which ppl can govern themselves and organize their own community resources.

Use the structure as the shell, and let the people use that to facilitate their own self-government
and education/training to younger members so the upward movement is sustainable.
new students and trainees come in while the mentors and elders move up and help the next class to grow up.

And what do you do with the folks that refuse to study or work, kill them?

 

[westwall]

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer

With another executive action hahaha what a joke. Look out criminals you'll no longer be able to buy a gun. Hahaha!

What's gained by making it easy for criminals to buy guns? What do you gain personally, or shouldn't I ask?

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

Exactly. So what on earth makes you think they will follow THIS law? Dumbshit...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your right lass .

We should have guns available out of vending machines for anyone to buy! Is that what you want ?

No but an American should not have to register a gun, that's the first step in confiscation

Hold up. President Obama has not said anything about a registry.



Yet.

Hold up, if people have to register and pass an application to purchase a gun, does that not create a registry by default?

What's wrong with a registry? What is on your agenda that a registry might threaten?

registry allows for confiscation.
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The 2nd Amendment doesn't. Pull your paranoid head out of your paranoid ass.

 

[AmericanFirst1]

At last, a politician offering more than "thoughts and prayers". Background checks work. More stringent checks will work better. Makes sense.

Only a retarded lib would think so.

 

[NYcarbineer]

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer

With another executive action hahaha what a joke. Look out criminals you'll no longer be able to buy a gun. Hahaha!

What's gained by making it easy for criminals to buy guns? What do you gain personally, or shouldn't I ask?

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

Exactly. So what on earth makes you think they will follow THIS law? Dumbshit...

Because once background check loopholes are eliminated, then we can jail YOU for making a private sale of a handgun to an ineligible buyer.

 

[Nyvin]

FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Our Communities Safer

With another executive action hahaha what a joke. Look out criminals you'll no longer be able to buy a gun. Hahaha!

What's gained by making it easy for criminals to buy guns? What do you gain personally, or shouldn't I ask?

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

Exactly. So what on earth makes you think they will follow THIS law? Dumbshit...

Going by that brilliant logic what's the point of having any laws at all?

 

[OKTexas]

This thread really proves that nobody can stir the shit up like the president can. The gun grabbers actually think they've won something and they haven't and the "You Ain't Takin' Ma Guns!" crowd actually believes they've lost something here and they haven't. This will effect such few people that it's negligible.

Really, from what I'm hearing you will need a FFL to sell a couple of your own guns. That's $300 plus a bunch of paperwork and possibly months in processing. Oh and add other fees for fingerprinting and photos. Nope, no one will lose a thing. LMAO

 

[NYcarbineer]

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

This logic basically says we should have no laws because there will be people who break them .

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Difference is you're an idiot and I'm not.

You are honestly in favor of legalizing drunk driving anywhere smoking pot becomes legal?

If this weren't USMB, you might win dumbest fuck on the board.

actually, I think you just exposed yourself as an idiot. again.
your reading comprehension is that of a retard.

Marijuana has NOTHING to do with whether driving drunk should be illegal.

 

[Rocko]

This logic basically says we should have no laws because there will be people who break them .

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Difference is you're an idiot and I'm not.

You are honestly in favor of legalizing drunk driving anywhere smoking pot becomes legal?

If this weren't USMB, you might win dumbest fuck on the board.

actually, I think you just exposed yourself as an idiot. again.
your reading comprehension is that of a retard.

Marijuana has NOTHING to do with whether driving drunk should be illegal.

You sir are a moron

 

[NYcarbineer]

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Difference is you're an idiot and I'm not.

You are honestly in favor of legalizing drunk driving anywhere smoking pot becomes legal?

If this weren't USMB, you might win dumbest fuck on the board.

actually, I think you just exposed yourself as an idiot. again.
your reading comprehension is that of a retard.

Marijuana has NOTHING to do with whether driving drunk should be illegal.

You sir are a moron

lol, that's says alot about whatever you are that you feel compelled to refer to the morons as 'sir'.

 

[Timmy]

What's gained by making it easy for criminals to buy guns? What do you gain personally, or shouldn't I ask?

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

This logic basically says we should have no laws because there will be people who break them .

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Pot is not murdering thousands of people a year .

 

[AmericanFirst1]

By obutholes own words he and Holder should be in jail. I will gladly cuff his sorry ass!!!

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Sure they will. Thousands of criminals/ psychos get denied gun approval every year.

Columbine School Shooting

Harris and Klebold acquired their firearms through a friend, Robyn Anderson, who bought a rifle and the two shotguns at a gun show. Philip Duran, another friend, bought a handgun from Mark Manes for $500.
How would these new gun regulations have kept these firearms from coming into the hands of Harris and Klebold?


Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

Adam Lanza, who had signs of schizophrenia and psychotic behavior, as well as autism, acquired a gun from his mother. He would never see a background check either.



Per capita, the city of Baltimore reaches its highest ever homicide rate in 2015

Yet, democrat lawmakers in that state said President Obama's executive order would have no effect on concerned gun owners, because they are already among those states with the most strict gun laws.

What happened?

Per capita, Baltimore reaches its highest ever homicide rate

 

[jon_berzerk]

Lie:
Obama Accused of ‘Outright Lying’ About Violent Felons Making Online Gun Purchases

You should start another thread on this lie....

agreed

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Last time I checked criminals don't DO background checks. Uhhh, that's one of the things that makes them "criminals" They don't follow laws. Do you understand?

Criminals don't obey laws. That's what makes them criminals you fucking retard.

This logic basically says we should have no laws because there will be people who break them .

Exactly. Let's repeal drunk driving laws because, hey, people will still drive drunk.

Thats the liberals claim when it comes to marijuana. People are going to do it whether its legal or not, so lets make it legal.
Difference?

Pot is not murdering thousands of people a year .

You dont really know that for sure.
How many of the gun deaths are related to pot. Considering most of the gun deaths are done by those most likely to use drugs ( ghetto dwellers, that would look like obamas son if he had one) I would say that pot is a major part of the problem