Lois Lerner E-Mails "Missing"

[Sallow]

Hmm..where did techie Tommy go?

 

[depotoo]

§ 1222.34*How must agencies maintain records?Agencies must implement a records maintenance program so that complete records are filed or otherwise identified and preserved, records can be readily found when needed, and permanent and temporary records are physically segregated from each other or, for electronic records, segregable. Agency records maintenance programs musta)*Institute procedures for organizing and storing records;(b)*Maintain electronic, audiovisual and cartographic, and microform records in accordance with 36 CFR parts*1236, 1237, and 1238 of this subchapter, respectively;(c)*Assign responsibilities for maintenance of records in all formats within each agency component, including designation of the officials that are responsible for maintenance and disposition of electronic records and management of automated systems used for recordkeeping;(d)*Institute reference and retrieval procedures and controls that1)*Facilitate the finding, charging out, and refiling of records, including safeguards against loss during transit; and(2)*Ensure that access to electronic records minimizes the risk of unauthorized additions, deletions, or alterations;(e)*Issue appropriate instructions to all agency employees on handling and protecting records;(f)*Maintain records and nonrecord materials separately, in accordance with §*1222.16;(g)*Maintain personal files separately from records in accordance with §1222.20; and(h)*Comply with 36 CFR parts*1232*and 1234 of this subchapter when storing records in a records facility.

§ 1222.12*What types of documentary materials are Federal records?(a)*General.*To ensure that complete and accurate records are made and retained in the Federal Government, agencies must distinguish between records and nonrecord materials by applying the definition of records (see*44 U.S.C. 3301*and 36 CFR*1220.18*and 1222.10 of this subchapter) to agency documentary materials in all formats and media.(b)*Record status.*Documentary materials are records when they meet the conditions specified in §*1222.10(b).(c)*Working files and similar materials.*Working files, such as preliminary drafts and rough notes, and other similar materials, are records that must be maintained to ensure adequate and proper documentation if1)*They were circulated or made available to employees, other than the creator, for official purposes such as approval, comment, action, recommendation, follow-up, or to communicate with agency staff about agency business; and(2)*They contain unique information, such as substantive annotations or comments that adds to a proper understanding of the agency's formulation and execution of basic policies, decisions, actions, or responsibilities.(d)*Record status of copies.*The determination as to whether a particular document is a record does not depend upon whether it contains unique information. Multiple copies of the same document and documents containing duplicative information may each have record status depending on how they are used in conducting agency business.

44 U.S. Code § 3301 - Definition of records

As used in this chapter, “records” includes all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received by an agency of the United States Government under Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency or its legitimate successor as evidence of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities of the Government or because of the informational value of data in them. Library and museum material made or acquired and preserved solely for reference or exhibition purposes, extra copies of documents preserved only for convenience of reference, and stocks of publications and of processed documents are not included.

 

[Sallow]

Maybe if I call him.
[MENTION=19484]The T[/MENTION]

Here drunkie. I got a nickle!

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Anyone else reporting this other than RW sites ?

 

[Sallow]

Welp..see ya guys..

 

[Sallow]

§ 1222.34*How must agencies maintain records?Agencies must implement a records maintenance program so that complete records are filed or otherwise identified and preserved, records can be readily found when needed, and permanent and temporary records are physically segregated from each other or, for electronic records, segregable. Agency records maintenance programs musta)*Institute procedures for organizing and storing records;(b)*Maintain electronic, audiovisual and cartographic, and microform records in accordance with 36 CFR parts*1236, 1237, and 1238 of this subchapter, respectively;(c)*Assign responsibilities for maintenance of records in all formats within each agency component, including designation of the officials that are responsible for maintenance and disposition of electronic records and management of automated systems used for recordkeeping;(d)*Institute reference and retrieval procedures and controls that1)*Facilitate the finding, charging out, and refiling of records, including safeguards against loss during transit; and(2)*Ensure that access to electronic records minimizes the risk of unauthorized additions, deletions, or alterations;(e)*Issue appropriate instructions to all agency employees on handling and protecting records;(f)*Maintain records and nonrecord materials separately, in accordance with §*1222.16;(g)*Maintain personal files separately from records in accordance with §1222.20; and(h)*Comply with 36 CFR parts*1232*and 1234 of this subchapter when storing records in a records facility.

§ 1222.12*What types of documentary materials are Federal records?(a)*General.*To ensure that complete and accurate records are made and retained in the Federal Government, agencies must distinguish between records and nonrecord materials by applying the definition of records (see*44 U.S.C. 3301*and 36 CFR*1220.18*and 1222.10 of this subchapter) to agency documentary materials in all formats and media.(b)*Record status.*Documentary materials are records when they meet the conditions specified in §*1222.10(b).(c)*Working files and similar materials.*Working files, such as preliminary drafts and rough notes, and other similar materials, are records that must be maintained to ensure adequate and proper documentation if1)*They were circulated or made available to employees, other than the creator, for official purposes such as approval, comment, action, recommendation, follow-up, or to communicate with agency staff about agency business; and(2)*They contain unique information, such as substantive annotations or comments that adds to a proper understanding of the agency's formulation and execution of basic policies, decisions, actions, or responsibilities.(d)*Record status of copies.*The determination as to whether a particular document is a record does not depend upon whether it contains unique information. Multiple copies of the same document and documents containing duplicative information may each have record status depending on how they are used in conducting agency business.

44 U.S. Code § 3301 - Definition of records

As used in this chapter, “records” includes all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received by an agency of the United States Government under Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency or its legitimate successor as evidence of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities of the Government or because of the informational value of data in them. Library and museum material made or acquired and preserved solely for reference or exhibition purposes, extra copies of documents preserved only for convenience of reference, and stocks of publications and of processed documents are not included.

This is a little better.

Still..it's lacking.

 

[depotoo]

§ 1222.34*How must agencies maintain records?Agencies must implement a records maintenance program so that complete records are filed or otherwise identified and preserved, records can be readily found when needed, and permanent and temporary records are physically segregated from each other or, for electronic records, segregable. Agency records maintenance programs musta)*Institute procedures for organizing and storing records;(b)*Maintain electronic, audiovisual and cartographic, and microform records in accordance with 36 CFR parts*1236, 1237, and 1238 of this subchapter, respectively;(c)*Assign responsibilities for maintenance of records in all formats within each agency component, including designation of the officials that are responsible for maintenance and disposition of electronic records and management of automated systems used for recordkeeping;(d)*Institute reference and retrieval procedures and controls that1)*Facilitate the finding, charging out, and refiling of records, including safeguards against loss during transit; and(2)*Ensure that access to electronic records minimizes the risk of unauthorized additions, deletions, or alterations;(e)*Issue appropriate instructions to all agency employees on handling and protecting records;(f)*Maintain records and nonrecord materials separately, in accordance with §*1222.16;(g)*Maintain personal files separately from records in accordance with §1222.20; and(h)*Comply with 36 CFR parts*1232*and 1234 of this subchapter when storing records in a records facility.

§ 1222.12*What types of documentary materials are Federal records?(a)*General.*To ensure that complete and accurate records are made and retained in the Federal Government, agencies must distinguish between records and nonrecord materials by applying the definition of records (see*44 U.S.C. 3301*and 36 CFR*1220.18*and 1222.10 of this subchapter) to agency documentary materials in all formats and media.(b)*Record status.*Documentary materials are records when they meet the conditions specified in §*1222.10(b).(c)*Working files and similar materials.*Working files, such as preliminary drafts and rough notes, and other similar materials, are records that must be maintained to ensure adequate and proper documentation if1)*They were circulated or made available to employees, other than the creator, for official purposes such as approval, comment, action, recommendation, follow-up, or to communicate with agency staff about agency business; and(2)*They contain unique information, such as substantive annotations or comments that adds to a proper understanding of the agency's formulation and execution of basic policies, decisions, actions, or responsibilities.(d)*Record status of copies.*The determination as to whether a particular document is a record does not depend upon whether it contains unique information. Multiple copies of the same document and documents containing duplicative information may each have record status depending on how they are used in conducting agency business.

44 U.S. Code § 3301 - Definition of records

As used in this chapter, “records” includes all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics, made or received by an agency of the United States Government under Federal law or in connection with the transaction of public business and preserved or appropriate for preservation by that agency or its legitimate successor as evidence of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, operations, or other activities of the Government or because of the informational value of data in them. Library and museum material made or acquired and preserved solely for reference or exhibition purposes, extra copies of documents preserved only for convenience of reference, and stocks of publications and of processed documents are not included.

This is a little better.

Still..it's lacking.

Lacking what? Let me know, I'll try to find it for you.

 

[Vigilante]

1.) First it was the IRS and their computer crashing and erasing ALL of Lois Lerner's emails. Wow! Who would have thought that something like that could happen. ALL, not ONE was left. Amazing.... 2.) And this info is dumped to the MSM on a Friday, too. What are the odds of that? And now she falls, hits her head and can't remember a thing. /Sarcasm. Oh, and BTW, Lois Lerner found out about the IRS computer crash on television too. /More Sarcasm.

 

[The T]

Anyone else reporting this other than RW sites ?

Heard it on FOX Radio...not searched leftist sites to see if they are talking about it.

 

[bripat9643]

So is this just a way of telling the congressional investigators to go fuck themselves without actually saying "go fuck yourselves"?

Destroying evidence is a crime, douche bag.

 

[Rozman]

It's one thing to try to present one system crash as a cause.
But to try to say that they experienced multiple system crashes and didn't have a backup
on a removable or multiple backup hard drives...

Not buying it.

Precisely. I work in the Tech world...and knowing/working with government entities as I do? There's one huge LIE afoot...or there's some Government IT guys that have some explaining to do.

EVERYTHING is logged on these systems...

The IRS is hoping for plausible deniability...on behalf of the DumbMasses...

NOT going to cut it...

They had better try with another excuse.

Heh heh heh.... Well today is Friday the 13th...
Will they go with that next?

 

[FA_Q2]

1.) First it was the IRS and their computer crashing and erasing ALL of Lois Lerner's emails. Wow! Who would have thought that something like that could happen. ALL, not ONE was left. Amazing.... 2.) And this info is dumped to the MSM on a Friday, too. What are the odds of that? And now she falls, hits her head and can't remember a thing. /Sarcasm. Oh, and BTW, Lois Lerner found out about the IRS computer crash on television too. /More Sarcasm.

the odds? Zip. Federal computer systems have an amazing amount of redundancy and backups for even minor systems. I can get a file that I purposely deleted months ago recovered with a single phone call as long as I know the storage location and the file name. The idea that the top levels of the IRS can have emails to the White House disappear is a outright lie and cover up.

Sick what some people will accept from the 'open and honest' administration. I dot really give a shit what is in the emails - prosecutions should happen if they find ANY evidence of cover ups.

 

[Rozman]

So is this just a way of telling the congressional investigators to go fuck themselves without actually saying "go fuck yourselves"?

Emails....Emails...
We don't got no stinkin Emails.

 

[Rozman]

I only see one Obama defender here...
And I have him on ignore.
No idea what he's chirpin about.

Where are the others?

 

[Katzndogz]

Not ALL emails just the ones to agencies other than internal IRS. The ones to the white house and DOJ are gone. Simple get them from the white house, DOJ and whoever else they need.

 

[The T]

I only see one Obama defender here...
And I have him on ignore.
No idea what he's chirpin about.

Where are the others?

Oh? You mean "SWALLOW"? He's an idiot with a Gubmint issued Nose Ring...As to the others? They aren't going to touch this topic with a 10 foot cattle prod...they KNOW it's a losing proposition.

 

[Vigilante]

Just how many lies are we supposed to INHALE before IMPEACHMENT is exhaled?

 

[The T]

Just how many lies are we supposed to INHALE before IMPEACHMENT is exhaled?

Depends upon when a spine is grown amongst the Republicans...

 

[Dot Com]

How many of you good Democrats actually believe they have lost Lois Lerner's e-mails, including ones to the White House?

That is what Fox News is reporting: that our Federal Government has informed them that they have lost Lois Lerner's e-mails for over a significant period of time....many months.

The better question might be: You know Obama's Cabal is corrupt, are you stiill for his bullshit anyway, just because he's a Democrat?

Wait.

When was Lerner hired again?

yep. She arrived on the scene AFTER the supposed shennanigans that Repubs are boo hooing about. PLUS the emails are from years ago.

I think I also see a double standard here: White House E-Mail Lost in Private Accounts

Democrats have charged that Rove and other officials may have used the private accounts, set up through the Republican National Committee, in an effort to avoid normal review. Under federal law, the White House is required to maintain records, including e-mails, involving presidential decision-making and deliberations. White House aides' use of their political e-mail accounts to discuss the prosecutor firings has also fanned Democratic accusations that the actions were politically motivated.

 

[The T]

How many of you good Democrats actually believe they have lost Lois Lerner's e-mails, including ones to the White House?

That is what Fox News is reporting: that our Federal Government has informed them that they have lost Lois Lerner's e-mails for over a significant period of time....many months.

The better question might be: You know Obama's Cabal is corrupt, are you stiill for his bullshit anyway, just because he's a Democrat?

Wait.

When was Lerner hired again?

What the HELL does it matter when SHE was hired? SHE admitted and APOLOGIZED for targeting Conservative groups.

YOU are truly a fucking IDIOT.