Lois Lerner to take the 5th. Again.

[Redfish]

Nixon resigned because he knew he would be convicted.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political Gain?And Johnson Knew About It, Newly Unclassified Tapes Suggest | Smart News | Smithsonian

The IRS should deny those groups the status they seek. Their work is not exclusively social welfare but politically motivated and those that donate to their cause should be known to the public.

What is it that you don't get ? The IRS should be going after those groups regardless of political affiliation------but they didn't, they gave the liberal groups a quick approval and made life hell for the conservative groups. It was polically motivated discrimination. It was targeting the enemies of the adminstration------do you really condone that?

You and Rep. Issa can make all the wild accusations you want, until you have proof that the President ordered the IRS to do it, it's still a phony scandal to claim that he did.

the e-mail trail is already out there, go look it up. It is yet to be determined if obama personally directed it, but if it was one of his close staffers its virtually the same thing.

 

[Jarhead]

Here is the bottom line...

This all started when the IRS ADMITTED to doing the wrong thing and apologizing for it.

The IRS blamed it on two rogue Cincinnati agents.

Then it was found that it went a lot deeper than that. No one denies this.

So why does Cummings and Obama NOT want to know what really happened?

 

[kaz]

She's either a criminal or covering for criminals. Either way, she belongs in jail until she starts talking.

 

[The T]

What is it that you don't get ? The IRS should be going after those groups regardless of political affiliation------but they didn't, they gave the liberal groups a quick approval and made life hell for the conservative groups. It was polically motivated discrimination. It was targeting the enemies of the adminstration------do you really condone that?

You and Rep. Issa can make all the wild accusations you want, until you have proof that the President ordered the IRS to do it, it's still a phony scandal to claim that he did.

the e-mail trail is already out there, go look it up. It is yet to be determined if obama personally directed it, but if it was one of his close staffers its virtually the same thing.

The director of the IRS says it's going to take years to get ALL Lerner's E-mails to the Congress...(They have to redact, cover, delete...etc...). WE are witnessing the cover-up of the Century. Congress needs to aquire balls and demand them ALL now un-redacted, as they exist, or hold these people in contempt, start sending some of these assholes to JAIL until they comply.

 

[JoeB131]

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It's true. We know it is true.
Yes, we need to outlaw anonymous donations so the IRS will know whom to hound and gay activists will know whom to boycott. Brilliant.

So it's okay to subvert democracy if no one knows who you are?

If you don't want gays boycotting you, don't engage in pushing homophobia.

 

[JoeB131]

Here is the bottom line...

This all started when the IRS ADMITTED to doing the wrong thing and apologizing for it.

The IRS blamed it on two rogue Cincinnati agents.

Then it was found that it went a lot deeper than that. No one denies this.

So why does Cummings and Obama NOT want to know what really happened?

Big difference between, "We could have handled that better" and "We engaged in a criminal conspiracy".

 

[The T]

It's very simple...Slap the cuffs and orange jumpsuit on her. She'll spill. Right now she feels very confident she's gonna get away with it. She's not gonna spill until the reality of serious Prison time is upon her. She is a criminal. And so are her bosses.

And take her fucking pension away from her while they are at it. She doesn't deserve a DIME from the taxpayers.

 

[Oldstyle]

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Only a liberal would make the statement that 102 is about half of 170! Seriously, Dude...do you have something masochistic thing going where you enjoy making an ass of yourself?

And only a progressive would accuse others of "racism" and then make a statement calling everyone south of the Mason Dixon Line stupid and inbred. That's such an ignorant thing to say that it's laughable that YOU consider others to be stupid.

uh, yeah, guy, 88.5 is exactly half of the 177K she was making. She probably won't see that much. And your "source" was CNS, another inbred, frothing Right Wing site with no credibility. But please, please, please babble on about the minutia when you can't win your main points.

Pretend Rich people didn't pay for the original outlay for the Interstates because gas taxes are used to maintain them now. Act like Bush was a good president. Think that Sarah Palin is smart. LIve in your own little fantasy world, Cleetus.

Incidently, Southerners are stupid. People who fly COnfederate Flags like that isn't something to be completely ashamed of are dumb. People who fight for the right to work for less money, man, that's about as stupid as you can possibly get. "Well, at least I'm still above the n****rs... Hey', there's a n****r in the White HOuse!!!!"

"Pretend" that rich people didn't pay for the original outlay for the Interstates? I don't have to "pretend" about it because quite simply...it never happened that way! The original outlay for the building of our Interstate system was provided by selling bonds...bonds which were then paid for by the taxes levied on gasoline, diesel fuel, tires and vehicle sales. You are the one who is "pretending" that the original outlay came from higher taxes on the wealthy. You SO want that to be what happened because you think that's what should happen NOW but it didn't happen that way despite your continued insistence that it did!

Your declaration that "Southerners are stupid" is just as ignorant and biased as someone saying that blacks are stupid. You come on here posting about "n****rs" trying to accuse others of racism when in fact you prove that you're a bigot every time you post this nonsense about people from the South being stupid and inbred. Here's a newsflash for you...most Southerner's DON'T fly Confederate flags! But you're too stupid to realize that...aren't you, Joe?

 

[Bloodrock44]

Just saw where they are asking for immunity in exchange for her emails. If she didn't do anything, why would she need immunity?

 

[Oldstyle]

Fuck Lois Lerner! I wouldn't give her immunity on anything. This needs to be treated like an investigation into organized crime. Start with the low level agents at the IRS...threaten them with jail time if they don't testify to who told them to do what they did and lesser sentences if they do cooperate. Work your way up the chain of command. If someone won't play ball then hit them with the harshest sentence available and send their asses to prison. If Lerner is the person who was in charge of this then she's the one who will go away for the longest stretch...if it was someone in the Obama White House who was in on this then Lerner can buy herself some time off her sentence by giving them up...if not then she can rot in prison.

 

[The Rabbi]

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It's true. We know it is true.
Yes, we need to outlaw anonymous donations so the IRS will know whom to hound and gay activists will know whom to boycott. Brilliant.

So it's okay to subvert democracy if no one knows who you are?

If you don't want gays boycotting you, don't engage in pushing homophobia.

Subverting democracy occurs when gays etc target donors and intidimate them into not supporting causes that might be unpopular.
Well, actually that IS democracy. But since we're a republic it matters.

 

[JoeB131]

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Your declaration that "Southerners are stupid" is just as ignorant and biased as someone saying that blacks are stupid. You come on here posting about "n****rs" trying to accuse others of racism when in fact you prove that you're a bigot every time you post this nonsense about people from the South being stupid and inbred. Here's a newsflash for you...most Southerner's DON'T fly Confederate flags! But you're too stupid to realize that...aren't you, Joe?

Guy, I'm ignoring your rants on the Highway system because youa re just making shit up and selectively editing. So that's discussion's done, you lost.

That ANY of them fly confederate flags is the problem.

For instance, there aren't a whole lot of Germans who would fly a flag with a Swastika on it today. But if there was one who did, his neighbors would beat the snot out of him.

But old CLeetus flies the Star and Bars, man, they are all totally good with that. ANd they dont' understand why anyone would be offended.

 

[ron4342]

What is it that you don't get ? The IRS should be going after those groups regardless of political affiliation------but they didn't, they gave the liberal groups a quick approval and made life hell for the conservative groups. It was polically motivated discrimination. It was targeting the enemies of the adminstration------do you really condone that?

You and Rep. Issa can make all the wild accusations you want, until you have proof that the President ordered the IRS to do it, it's still a phony scandal to claim that he did.

the e-mail trail is already out there, go look it up. It is yet to be determined if obama personally directed it, but if it was one of his close staffers its virtually the same thing.

Hummmm...... Interesting! I suspect that if the argument were about Christie, his staffers, and their emails you would argue exactly opposite of what you are saying about Obama and his staffers.

 

[JoeB131]

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Subverting democracy occurs when gays etc target donors and intidimate them into not supporting causes that might be unpopular.
Well, actually that IS democracy. But since we're a republic it matters.

Well, let's see now, if you want to run a business, and use the proceeds of that to promote hate, then really, you kind of deserve what you get.

Full disclosure. No secret donations to politics. That's the point of this whole thing. People wanted to be able to play politics and remain in the shadows.

 

[The Rabbi]

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Subverting democracy occurs when gays etc target donors and intidimate them into not supporting causes that might be unpopular.
Well, actually that IS democracy. But since we're a republic it matters.

Well, let's see now, if you want to run a business, and use the proceeds of that to promote hate, then really, you kind of deserve what you get.

Full disclosure. No secret donations to politics. That's the point of this whole thing. People wanted to be able to play politics and remain in the shadows.

Because freedom of speech only covers things we like. Yeah, we get that.

 

[JoeB131]

Fuck Lois Lerner! I wouldn't give her immunity on anything. This needs to be treated like an investigation into organized crime. Start with the low level agents at the IRS...threaten them with jail time if they don't testify to who told them to do what they did and lesser sentences if they do cooperate. Work your way up the chain of command. If someone won't play ball then hit them with the harshest sentence available and send their asses to prison. If Lerner is the person who was in charge of this then she's the one who will go away for the longest stretch...if it was someone in the Obama White House who was in on this then Lerner can buy herself some time off her sentence by giving them up...if not then she can rot in prison.

Okay. That works.

"I demand a jury Trial right here in Washington DC."

Where they vote 95% Democratic.

Frankly, before I'd send anyone to prison, I want to know what harm was actually done here. How was anyone's life ruined because they didnt' get their fraudulent tax exemption?

And, no, not getting the results you wanted in an election isn't "harm". You clowns did that to yourselves when you nominated a Weird Mormon Robot that even you didn't like that much.

 

[The Rabbi]

Fuck Lois Lerner! I wouldn't give her immunity on anything. This needs to be treated like an investigation into organized crime. Start with the low level agents at the IRS...threaten them with jail time if they don't testify to who told them to do what they did and lesser sentences if they do cooperate. Work your way up the chain of command. If someone won't play ball then hit them with the harshest sentence available and send their asses to prison. If Lerner is the person who was in charge of this then she's the one who will go away for the longest stretch...if it was someone in the Obama White House who was in on this then Lerner can buy herself some time off her sentence by giving them up...if not then she can rot in prison.

Okay. That works.

"I demand a jury Trial right here in Washington DC."

Where they vote 95% Democratic.

Frankly, before I'd send anyone to prison, I want to know what harm was actually done here. How was anyone's life ruined because they didnt' get their fraudulent tax exemption?

And, no, not getting the results you wanted in an election isn't "harm". You clowns did that to yourselves when you nominated a Weird Mormon Robot that even you didn't like that much.

If I steal your broken TV I have nonetheless stolen. Harm doesnt really enter into it.
Although the groups have testified their inability to offer tax deductions hurt their legitimacy and their donations. Which was in fact the purpose of holding them up.

 

[depotoo]

The arrest of the Watergate burglars marked the beginning of a long chain of events in which President Nixon and his top aides became deeply involved in an extensive coverup of the break-in and other White House sanctioned illegal activities.

Those activities had started in 1970 after The New York Times revealed a secret bombing campaign against neutral Cambodia in Southeast Asia was being conducted as part of the American war effort in Vietnam.

The History Place - Impeachment: Richard Nixon

The IRS doing it's job and verifying that the so call Social Welfare groups are not actually PACs disguising themselves in order to hide their donor lists was not directed by or from the White House.

Nixon resigned because he lied about watergate. Viet Nam was a stupid waste of 58,000 american lives and billions of dollars---Nixon ended it.

The IRS should do its job, but it should not target political opponents to try to destroy them and make them less effective-----------that is what they did and that is what Lerner refuses to tell the truth about.

Nixon resigned because he knew he would be convicted.

Nixon Prolonged Vietnam War for Political Gain?And Johnson Knew About It, Newly Unclassified Tapes Suggest | Smart News | Smithsonian

The IRS should deny those groups the status they seek. Their work is not exclusively social welfare but politically motivated and those that donate to their cause should be known to the public.

So do you what the same for Organizing for America?

 

[depotoo]

Since this is about Lerner, does anyone care they still haven't turned over all her emails?

 

[The T]

Since this is about Lerner, does anyone care they still haven't turned over all her emails?

Of course we care...the IRS is dragging it's feet hoping the matter will be dropped. It isn't going to happen. As a citizen? I demand the truth, and those responsible be thrown in jail. They broke the LAW.