London on Lockdown

[St.Blues]

If I had to pick a chick in here with a good sense of reality it would be syrenn..... She can be a pain in the butt but who gives a shit at least she's foxy.. You know fair and balanced.

Blues

 

[syrenn]

It St Blues yet another iteration of Conjob....??

Damn, I hope not.... but now that you mention it.... maybe.

As far as i am concerned.....and for me to say this it should hold some weight.

St blues is NOT conjob the brainless.

 

[Sky Dancer]

I wish you guys would stop distorting what I am saying. I am not now and never have supported the rioting though it is just as bad wherever it happens.

I am not going to repeat what I said because anyone with any intelligence and openness will be able to see. I hope you are not like GHook wanting my head cracked..

No, but you support the programs that got it to this point..... the dole.

We have been inundated with illegals because these lazy bastard won't work.. Their IQ's are around 80 and they want desk jobs a free lunch and dinner and a ride home.

Fuck them again.

Blues

How do you know what anyones IQ is you stupid jerk?

Do you work? If you do, STFU. Alot of people have no jobs, and they WANT TO WORK.

 

[California Girl]

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel the most.

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

And you think the UK isn't struggling with high unemployment? These little brats have thrown hundreds of hard working ordinary Brits out of work.

I'd be quite happy to let those little brats starve.

 

[Valerie]

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel the most.

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

What country is that...???

 

[California Girl]

It St Blues yet another iteration of Conjob....??

Damn, I hope not.... but now that you mention it.... maybe.

As far as i am concerned.....and for me to say this it should hold some weight.

St blues is NOT conjob the brainless.

You know I trust you.... so I'm prepared to go with that. He's good as far as I'm concerned.

 

[St.Blues]

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel the most.

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

Sky, I understand Charity.. I have helped many.
I do not believe in welfare for a lifetime of do nothings which of we have millions here.
Its sickening and millions of us are fed up with it.

Like I said... Fuck them.

Blues

 

[Sky Dancer]

If I had to pick a chick in here with a good sense of reality it would be syrenn..... She can be a pain in the butt but who gives a shit at least she's foxy.. You know fair and balanced.

Blues

You won't like me then. I'm a lesbian AND a liberal. Your favorite kind of person.

 

[Sky Dancer]

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

Sky, I understand Charity.. I have helped many.
I do not believe in welfare for a lifetime of do nothings which of we have millions here.
Its sickening and millions of us are fed up with it.

Like I said... Fuck them.

Blues

That is complete bullshit. I've worked with poor people all over the world my whole life.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sick and tired of seeing poor people get bashed by conservatives. The party of the rich.

What do you propose we do with poor people? Punish them for being born?

We are talking about children, mothers, elderly and disabled. We are talking about UI and food stamps for unemployed people who have lost jobs because some rich dude wants to pay 50 cents a hour in India instead of employing workers here.

 

[St.Blues]

It St Blues yet another iteration of Conjob....??

Damn, I hope not.... but now that you mention it.... maybe.

As far as i am concerned.....and for me to say this it should hold some weight.

St blues is NOT conjob the brainless.

Thanks love.. You're simply the best!

Blues

 

[syrenn]

what exactly do you do? Have you not noticed that what I am saying is exactly the opposite of what you are claiming.

People need the opportunity to succeed. When you have situations as have grown in gang areas in London and elsewhere where these have basically taken over the socialisation process, you clearly need different input to give the kids a chance to reach something new.

We did not have those kind of gangs when I lived in London -left '88 and at that time we were far more into having socialist values. These gangs should have been nipped in the bud when they arose, not just left for the community to live on welfare and criminal activity s. If anything the problems come from Thatcherite ideas like there is no society or Friedman beliefs that we are all little isolated Robinson Crusoe's who care only for ourselves which is basically a psychopathic view as it believes people are totally without empathy.

Well tough luck because it is generally accepted here that after this is sorted out there is a need to address the issues.

since you quoted me i will answer...

No amount of money and or programs will EVER fix the institutionalized entitlement mentality. It has become a way of life that is enough to get them by.

If there were no monies or programs... they would either starve and die...or get off their ass's and do something with their lives to make their situation in life a bit better.

the HAVE the opportunity to seceded.... its called sucking it up... playing withing the rules... acting and speaking in a fashion that will allow you to get ahead..and getting an education or learning a skill.

If you want to give them a new socialization... something different... a way to get out of their situation..... how about the military? You know the good old fashioned way.

I must chuckle about your last statement..... how have those liberal programs been working out so far? Not so good i would have to say.

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country? I don't. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel it the most.

Right. Your solution? Let them kill themselves in war.

This has to be the lamest anti-liberal rant I've seen you do to date.

Not BS.... not by a long shot.

It has nothing to do with "punishing" the poor. Its about personal responsibility. You want children... damn well be able to feed and house them...or at least TRY to. If you want something more for yourself and your life..... DO something other then sitting on your ass whining about what is not being given to you.

As to third world countries... i am very sure anyone in a third world country would trade their lives to wealthy life these "poor" do.

And gang members dont die in gang wars?

 

[Sky Dancer]

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

What country is that...???

Forgive me for making a typo. That was COUNTY not country.

 

[St.Blues]

If I had to pick a chick in here with a good sense of reality it would be syrenn..... She can be a pain in the butt but who gives a shit at least she's foxy.. You know fair and balanced.

Blues

You won't like me then. I'm a lesbian AND a liberal. Your favorite kind of person.

Sky, I make my own decisions.. Liberal, socially or fiscally? I don't care if you are a lesbian.. I love woman too, we have that in common.

Blues

 

[syrenn]

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel the most.

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

And when was the last time you heard of mass death due to starvation in the US?

however.... again..... personal responsibility. If you have children... you should be prepared to feed and house them.

 

[Sky Dancer]

since you quoted me i will answer...

No amount of money and or programs will EVER fix the institutionalized entitlement mentality. It has become a way of life that is enough to get them by.

If there were no monies or programs... they would either starve and die...or get off their ass's and do something with their lives to make their situation in life a bit better.

the HAVE the opportunity to seceded.... its called sucking it up... playing withing the rules... acting and speaking in a fashion that will allow you to get ahead..and getting an education or learning a skill.

If you want to give them a new socialization... something different... a way to get out of their situation..... how about the military? You know the good old fashioned way.

I must chuckle about your last statement..... how have those liberal programs been working out so far? Not so good i would have to say.

BS.

Would you rather live in a Third World Country? I don't. Yeah, punish the poor.

Wake up. The economy is in the toliet and poor people feel it the most.

Right. Your solution? Let them kill themselves in war.

This has to be the lamest anti-liberal rant I've seen you do to date.

Not BS.... not by a long shot.

It has nothing to do with "punishing" the poor. Its about personal responsibility. You want children... damn well be able to feed and house them...or at least TRY to. If you want something more for yourself and your life..... DO something other then sitting on your ass whining about what is not being given to you.

As to third world countries... i am very sure anyone in a third world country would trade their lives to wealthy life these "poor" do.

And gang members dont die in gang wars?

You don't know shit about the poor. If it was up to you, poor people would have NOTHING. No food stamps, no cash aid, no UI.

Just like in India. I've been to third world countries. It's not a pretty picture. They have no welfare, no charities, no food stamps, no shelters, nothing.

If that's what you want, move there.

Old people in the US freeze to death because they can't afford utilities. They go hungry, because they have to choose between medicine and food.

In my county, 20% of our population is unemployed. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people would go hungry.

 

[syrenn]

If I had to pick a chick in here with a good sense of reality it would be syrenn..... She can be a pain in the butt but who gives a shit at least she's foxy.. You know fair and balanced.

Blues

You won't like me then. I'm a lesbian AND a liberal. Your favorite kind of person.

And i don't care .... i still like you. It does not mean we have to agree.

 

[Sky Dancer]

No they don't.. They get their checks one way or the other, They're pissed because they're either getting less or not getting more. Fuck them, the lazy dirty prolific pricks.

Blues

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

And when was the last time you heard of mass death due to starvation in the US?

however.... again..... personal responsibility. If you have children... you should be prepared to feed and house them.

Fuck you. We don't have mass starvation because we have poverty programs. You propose a return to no poverty programs? Watch people starve.

Children do not ask to be born. Your position punishes them.

You want poor people to be punished? Go to Africa. Go to Asia. Enjoy the sight of people starving to death, and then consider, that we, in America are better than that.

 

[syrenn]

Go live in a Third World country, asshole. You want to punish the poor? How about returning to slavery?

There aren't any jobs, jerk.

We have 20% unemployment in my country. Without UI and food stamps a lot of people go hungry.

I guess you'd like that. Let children starve.

Sky, I understand Charity.. I have helped many.
I do not believe in welfare for a lifetime of do nothings which of we have millions here.
Its sickening and millions of us are fed up with it.

Like I said... Fuck them.

Blues

That is complete bullshit. I've worked with poor people all over the world my whole life.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sick and tired of seeing poor people get bashed by conservatives. The party of the rich.

What do you propose we do with poor people? Punish them for being born?

We are talking about children, mothers, elderly and disabled. We are talking about UI and food stamps for unemployed people who have lost jobs because some rich dude wants to pay 50 cents a hour in India instead of employing workers here.

spay and neuter them....seems to be working great in the feral cat population here in the city.

How about not having children if you cant feed and house them. How about not giving birth to a child and bring it into a life of poverty.

Personal responsibility. I know that is a tough concept to understand.

 

[Colin]

I hope you're right California Girl about 16,000 police tonight. Last night they said a lot of
the problem is that they haven't got enough police officers who have goy riot training, you
know, the guys in all the riot gear, if the police don't get on top of this tonight, what next?
It looks like they're going to throw everything at it they've got. But the rioters can go home
and rest up in the middle of the night, ready for tomorrow, the police will be there all night.
They will get exhausted without fresh backup. The rioters will know this.

Assuming there are some Britons left who are willing to fight for their country, the police should deputize law-abiding citizens, arm them, and issue orders to shoot looters on sight. An example needs to be made or this mayhem will continue to spread world wide, including here in America.

How fucking condescending of you and fuck you shit for brains! Plenty of our young men are dying fighting for this country...how dare you assume otherwise! Take your moronic suggestions and shove them as far up your arse as possible. I guess that'll take you all the way into that empty cranium of yours!

 

[syrenn]

Damn, I hope not.... but now that you mention it.... maybe.

As far as i am concerned.....and for me to say this it should hold some weight.

St blues is NOT conjob the brainless.

Thanks love.. You're simply the best!

Blues

You are welcome.... the conjob thing is not something you would ever want to be associated with.