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I'll take that as a compliment rdea...... Uummmm, what was your name again?[/QUOTE]limited is your effort.I would say limited is an understatement considering it appears your opinion on this is politically based.^^^^ Ringel05 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^QUOTE="iamwhatiseem, post: 23467397, member: 24610"]Personally, in my limited reading on the subject, solar is a better solution.
Per acre, solar delivers just over 10 times the energy as the best wind farms.
A study of 1,100 wind farms shows that the actual power density they deliver is literally 100 times lower than what they were supposed to deliver.
Which means, of course, the science the companies used to sell the idea to governments was junk science.
IMO - the energy and dollars that have been spent on wind would have been better spent on solar.
Just my limited opinion.
I can agree with some of what's in that write up. I'm sure a whirly bird is more productive in certain areas over others. Don't question that at all. the true expense is the value it adds based on its cost. And the facts are the whirly birds are ineffective even at strategic locations. They are not always on line and because of that require a back up source like natural gas. so that has to be included in the costs. And sir, I don't see that written in that article.[/QUOTE]Here, now you can go and claim the site is a far left hack site........ Not that i give a shit.says the hack that performed a throw and go with no statistics. yes you!!!Just another political hack.r who? hahahhahahahaaI'll take that as a compliment rdea...... Uummmm, what was your name again?limited is your effort.
Overblown: Wind turbines don’t take more energy to build than they will ever produce
I'll take that as a compliment rdea...... Uummmm, what was your name again?limited is your effort.I would say limited is an understatement considering it appears your opinion on this is politically based.^^^^ Ringel05 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^QUOTE="iamwhatiseem, post: 23467397, member: 24610"]Personally, in my limited reading on the subject, solar is a better solution.
Per acre, solar delivers just over 10 times the energy as the best wind farms.
A study of 1,100 wind farms shows that the actual power density they deliver is literally 100 times lower than what they were supposed to deliver.
Which means, of course, the science the companies used to sell the idea to governments was junk science.
IMO - the energy and dollars that have been spent on wind would have been better spent on solar.
Just my limited opinion.
Sitting idle because the wind is blowing too hard! This is west of Amarillo at 9:54 Veterans Day 2019.
Sitting idle because the wind is blowing too hard! This is west of Amarillo at 9:54 Veterans Day 2019.
You're really pissed about these windmills, huh. This isn't the first thread you've talked about them. Do you drive by them every day or something?
One of my neighbors has solar panels on his roof and a windmill outside. The windmill is actually functional, too, kind of cool looking as it's old fashioned looking, but my one neighbor always says gosh damn hippies, they're takin over the place. lol.
Think he said he's gonna go to the home owner's association about it.
Yeah, I have a solar system too, and a water wheel system. Windmills kill rare Raptors, that's why I hate them
Yeah, I have a solar system too, and a water wheel system. Windmills kill rare Raptors, that's why I hate them
Oh, I see. That's true, they do. Or so I've read. I have stray cats around here killing all of my birds. Trying to decide how I'm gonna deal with that without breaking out the .22.
Stray cats are the prey of raptors. Raptors are the top of the avian food chain and are protected from everything man does, except windmills. They get to massacre them at will.
Were you shoot a raptor the fines are substantial and you risk jail time.
But the operators of the Altamont wind farm are exempt, even though they have decimated the local raptor populations.
Oh look, an anecdote. Then why does one of the largest wind farms in the world -- in my home State -- not just persist, but continue to grow?Nobody said it was perfect, look how long it took to get to where we are now in many ways and in many fields, it takes time, money and effort and there are a lot of missteps along the way. We fuck up we learn....... well, in some areas....... Hell it's not like they're trying to perfect a DVD rewinder..........Oh and the lie that wind turbines cost more than the energy they produce has already been exposed. The lie is based on a scientific essay written by David Hughes, published in 2009 and taken completely out of context. Hughes has stated so. At least fifty studies have shown that wind turbines produce at minimum 20% more energy than it cost to build them. That is taking into account maintenance and their average life span of twenty years.
But doesn't take into account the cost of disposal when they are retired. See where the blades are causing problems in the landfill world.
I agree on the time aspect. 300 years isn't enough? Windmills are great for local usage, like the water pumping one I posted, but for large scale electricity production they are less than useless. They are a fraud. Reno bought 4 of them at huge cost and after three years they pulled them down because they calculated they would need 200 years to repay their cost, and maintenance expenditures.
Sorry, my anecdote obliterates your anecdote. Back to square one, for you.
Government subsidies. Look it up. I dare you.
Raptors are the top of the avian food chain and are protected from everything man does, except windmills.
Raptors are the top of the avian food chain and are protected from everything man does, except windmills.
And buildings, and power lines, and barbed wire, and shooting, and poison, and vehicles, and habitat loss, and climate change. Which kill far, far more.
And you care zilch about that, thus revealing just how much of a stinking hypocrite you are.
By the way, everyone notices you've backed up none of your lunatic claims about windmills. That would be because you just made them all up.
Come on, show us how government subsidies are the only thing making wind power profitable. Show us how windmills consume more power than they create. If you didn't just fake it all, that shouldn't be a problem.
SSDD, you too. Show you didn't just fake it all. Since you did fake it all, you won't be able to, so let me laugh in advance for exposing you as a gutless fraud.
And ALL of the causes you listed, COMBINED, don't even come close to the carnage that windmills cause.
Oh, I see. That's true, they do. Or so I've read. I have stray cats around here killing all of my birds. Trying to decide how I'm gonna deal with that without breaking out the .22.
Sitting idle because the wind is blowing too hard! This is west of Amarillo at 9:54 Veterans Day 2019.
And buildings, and power lines, and barbed wire, and shooting, and poison, and vehicles, and habitat loss, and climate change. Which kill far, far more.
SSDD, you too. Show you didn't just fake it all. Since you did fake it all, you won't be able to, so let me laugh in advance for exposing you as a gutless fraud.
Do tell hairball..
And it has so affected the market for wind energy that is continues to grow, and will grow even more. In fact, it's only competitor is solar.Sitting idle because the wind is blowing too hard! This is west of Amarillo at 9:54 Veterans Day 2019.
You remain quite the lying fool, Mr. WestwallOkay. And?And?Sitting idle because the wind is blowing too hard! This west of Amarillo at 9:54 Veterans Day 2019.
Old school windmills seem to work just fine. This little sucker, right alongside the big boys, was happily moving water.
Merely pointing out how worthless wind farms are. They cost more energy to produce than they ever create.
This is an example why.
Do tell hairball..
Pisschugger, I asked you for hard data, not another torrent of bitch-tears.
I think everyone noticed that, as usual, you failed to back up any of your kook claims. You're clearly just making stupid shit up.
