Look at us....

[Zoom-boing]

All these threads (including mine) about the color of people involved in crimes perceived to be politically motivated. The discussion of actual events takes a back seat to a fucking adjective.

We're going the wrong direction people

This is interesting. Are there any forum members who have NOT done this? Or....as you see it...are we all guilty?

I don't do this.

 

[peach174]

Partisans (people who hate the other side) don't actually see the real world. They unconsciously filter every event through pre-made caricatures which serve the political and financial interests of those who have captured their party. So, when a bomb goes off, the talk radio republican literally sees Islamic Terrorism, even prior to analyzing the evidence. Rush Limbaugh and the professional pundit class has created an army of obedient listeners who no longer engage critically w/the world. For them there is no contradiction between their hatred of Islam and the deep oil partnerships upon which the American economy is built (e.g., there is no contradiction between their love of Reagan and his deep support of Hussein and Iran).. There is no contradiction between their cultural hatred of communists and terrorists and the fact that so much of our economy runs off oil from terrorists, and manufacturing from communist china. For these people, the world is very simple. They live inside talk radio and FOX News caricatures. They have left the reality based universe.

It's too bad that you can't be that critical of your own party.
Dems always promise equality, prosperity and security and all it does is bring misery, poverty and a decline in living for all.

Here's a good example.

I can point to 8 years of Clinton being 8 years of Peace and Prosperity. Yet somehow the President won't get credit for it in that case--you see it was the GOP controlled Congress right?

So here we are with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP having control of the House and veto power in the Senate (the ability to filibuster anything) but in this case, the Dems get the blame for the economy.

Clinton actually worked with the GOP when they took over the House and the Senate. President Obama refuses to work with GOP and he calls them the enemy.
Peace during Clinton?
Have you forgotten Waco and Ruby Ridge?
Or the Bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993?
How long have we had the war on poverty every since President Johnson introduced it? 49 years and still it has done nothing to get the poor out of poverty.
While President Coolidge policies actually did raise the poor out of poverty.
We have had whole generations of families on welfare.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's the typical "everybody's guilty".

The West Wing S03E10 Bartlet guilt admittance - YouTube

"Everybody does it,...so we come to occupy a moral safe house where everyone's to blame so no one is guilty"

You may start by changing your accusatory tagline cartoon but we've been over that.

I did change it per your constant request. It used to say "Liberalism is a disease"

 

[asaratis]

It's the typical "everybody's guilty".

The West Wing S03E10 Bartlet guilt admittance - YouTube

"Everybody does it,...so we come to occupy a moral safe house where everyone's to blame so no one is guilty"

You may start by changing your accusatory tagline cartoon but we've been over that.

I did change it per your constant request. It used to say "Liberalism is a disease"

That does not change the fact that liberalism IS a mental disorder.

 

[candycorn]

It's too bad that you can't be that critical of your own party.
Dems always promise equality, prosperity and security and all it does is bring misery, poverty and a decline in living for all.

Here's a good example.

I can point to 8 years of Clinton being 8 years of Peace and Prosperity. Yet somehow the President won't get credit for it in that case--you see it was the GOP controlled Congress right?

So here we are with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP having control of the House and veto power in the Senate (the ability to filibuster anything) but in this case, the Dems get the blame for the economy.

Clinton actually worked with the GOP when they took over the House and the Senate. President Obama refuses to work with GOP and he calls them the enemy.

Nobody saw that coming "He's not working with us".

How many times did the debt ceiling get raised without tumult before Obama. Now? It's High Noon every time. Why do you think that is?

Peace during Clinton?
Have you forgotten Waco and Ruby Ridge?

Wow, those are your examples? Really? Too damn funny.

Or the Bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993?

Happened 36 days into Clinton's first term.

You give impotence a new definition.

How long have we had the war on poverty every since President Johnson introduced it? 49 years and still it has done nothing to get the poor out of poverty.
While President Coolidge policies actually did raise the poor out of poverty.
We have had whole generations of families on welfare.

I'll agree with you on the "war on poverty". As for Coolidge; things may have changed in the last 100 years or so, ya think?

 

[candycorn]

It's the typical "everybody's guilty".

The West Wing S03E10 Bartlet guilt admittance - YouTube

"Everybody does it,...so we come to occupy a moral safe house where everyone's to blame so no one is guilty"

You may start by changing your accusatory tagline cartoon but we've been over that.

I did change it per your constant request. It used to say "Liberalism is a disease"

That does not change the fact that liberalism IS a mental disorder.

Yet some Conservatives believe that a woman can mentally will themselves to not get pregnant.

 

[peach174]

Here's a good example.

I can point to 8 years of Clinton being 8 years of Peace and Prosperity. Yet somehow the President won't get credit for it in that case--you see it was the GOP controlled Congress right?

So here we are with a Democrat in the White House and the GOP having control of the House and veto power in the Senate (the ability to filibuster anything) but in this case, the Dems get the blame for the economy.

Clinton actually worked with the GOP when they took over the House and the Senate. President Obama refuses to work with GOP and he calls them the enemy.

Nobody saw that coming "He's not working with us".

How many times did the debt ceiling get raised without tumult before Obama. Now? It's High Noon every time. Why do you think that is?

That was before the housing bubble burst and it would have still been manageable at a little over 8 trillion. It did cause a big stir when Bush bailed out the banks and added an additional 900 billion to be paid to the banks, approved of by Dems who controlled the house & senate
It's at almost 17 trillion now so yes we do need to raise a tumult.

Wow, those are your examples? Really? Too damn funny.

Or the Bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993?

Happened 36 days into Clinton's first term.

You give impotence a new definition.

How long have we had the war on poverty every since President Johnson introduced it? 49 years and still it has done nothing to get the poor out of poverty.
While President Coolidge policies actually did raise the poor out of poverty.
We have had whole generations of families on welfare.

I'll agree with you on the "war on poverty". As for Coolidge; things may have changed in the last 100 years or so, ya think?

People and things change yes. but not political ideologies that actually work.

 

[candycorn]

Clinton actually worked with the GOP when they took over the House and the Senate. President Obama refuses to work with GOP and he calls them the enemy.

Nobody saw that coming "He's not working with us".

How many times did the debt ceiling get raised without tumult before Obama. Now? It's High Noon every time. Why do you think that is?

That was before the housing bubble burst and it would have still been manageable at a little over 8 trillion. It did cause a big stir when Bush bailed out the banks and added an additional 900 billion to be paid to the banks, approved of by Dems who controlled the house & senate
It's at almost 17 trillion now so yes we do need to raise a tumult.

Wow, those are your examples? Really? Too damn funny.


Happened 36 days into Clinton's first term.

You give impotence a new definition.

How long have we had the war on poverty every since President Johnson introduced it? 49 years and still it has done nothing to get the poor out of poverty.
While President Coolidge policies actually did raise the poor out of poverty.
We have had whole generations of families on welfare.

I'll agree with you on the "war on poverty". As for Coolidge; things may have changed in the last 100 years or so, ya think?

People and things change yes. but not political ideologies that actually work.

The man who builds a factory builds a temple, those who work there, worship there (paraphrasing Coolidge)....Do you worship where you work?