Looks like it's over for Ukraine.

[AMart]

All of that $$$ wasted, washed, and used to prop up the MIC. That's all folks!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

All of that $$$ wasted, washed, and used to prop up the MIC. That's all folks!

bs

What has changed? Who said funding would be indefinitely?

White House spokesperson John Kirby announces that funding for Ukraine is "coming near to the end of the rope" and is "not going to be indefinite."

 

[AMart]

bs

What has changed? Who said funding would be indefinitely?

White House spokesperson John Kirby announces that funding for Ukraine is "coming near to the end of the rope" and is "not going to be indefinite."

They are wholly in need of money from the USA. WO it there are toast.

 

[TNHarley]

About fucking time. Over 1K dollars a household is too damn much.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Perhaps the Ukraine-bound weapons found on dead Hamas soldiers provided some insight.

Blank checks to corrupt nations isn't wise. Help them defend themselves, yes, but accounting is vital.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

End the Ukrainian Money Laundering Operation

 

[Moonglow]

Maybe they could loan them the money so we could own Ukraine?

 

[Batcat]

All of that $$$ wasted, washed, and used to prop up the MIC. That's all folks!

Nobody really knows where all that money went but knowing it went to one of the most corrupt nations in the world and the D.C. Swamp was involved, you can bet a lot of it went to corruption and malfeasance.

The money spent also helped the military industrial complex recover profits it lost because Trump did not want us to get involved in dirty little wars.

 

[luiza]

Maybe they could loan them the money so we could own Ukraine?

How will you take it away from Moscow which is already the new owner ?
And who would you send -- all your losing Afghanistan troops , supported by the Mechanised LGBQT Brigade ?
rofl .

 

[1srelluc]

Well the M-IC doesn't need them any longer.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

They are wholly in need of money from the USA. WO it there are toast.

Really?

What planet did you just parachute in from? Iran's leadership is monstrous in it's desires to fulfill it's hateful agenda. Just like many people here.

 

[jotathought]

bs

What has changed? Who said funding would be indefinitely?

White House spokesperson John Kirby announces that funding for Ukraine is "coming near to the end of the rope" and is "not going to be indefinite."

Nothing has changed .. Biden and his administration continued to fund a country notoriously known for being corrupt, and removed auditing and accountability with how the funds were being spent. Still the same old Biden administration.

 

[jotathought]

Dante .. why is it fake news? Ukraine is corrupt .. Biden has provided a blank check .. and Democrats shot down auditing measures on how the aid is being used.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

They are wholly in need of money from the USA. WO it there are toast.

Really?

What planet did you just parachute in from? Iran's leadership is monstrous in it's desires to fulfill it's hateful agenda. Just like many people here.

Dante .. why is it fake news? Ukraine is corrupt .. Biden has provided a blank check .. and Democrats shot down auditing measures on how the aid is being used.

please try and post in a sane manner.

 

[JohnDB]

Well if the House of Representatives would elect a speaker....
Then there is a bill for an additional 50 million in ammunition slated to go through.

Ukraine really doesn't need more equipment....with the current equipment getting repairs and maintenance and not being scrap metal every time it gets hit by a munition of some sort (like Russian equipment) the only thing they really need is ammunition.

Between all of the equipment that EU and USA and other allies have sent....they already have more equipment than soldiers capable of operating the pieces.

All they need is more ammunition. Which we are producing as fast as possible...and with other tensions mounting elsewhere in the world that production level is about to increase. Where this will increase costs per round....money never did a dead person any good.

So where the OP obviously has a political agenda....I don't. I just understand logistics and reality instead of wishful thinking.

 

[Silver Cat]

Well if the House of Representatives would elect a speaker....
Then there is a bill for an additional 50 million in ammunition slated to go through.

Ukraine really doesn't need more equipment....with the current equipment getting repairs and maintenance and not being scrap metal every time it gets hit by a munition of some sort (like Russian equipment) the only thing they really need is ammunition.

Between all of the equipment that EU and USA and other allies have sent....they already have more equipment than soldiers capable of operating the pieces.

All they need is more ammunition. Which we are producing as fast as possible...and with other tensions mounting elsewhere in the world that production level is about to increase. Where this will increase costs per round....money never did a dead person any good.

So where the OP obviously has a political agenda....I don't. I just understand logistics and reality instead of wishful thinking.

They are fighting against Russia and trying strategically defeat nuclear super-power. That means, that the most important thing they need is to be backed by a capable nuclear power or they might be destroyed on the next level of escalation.

And even quite optimistic (even wishful thinking) report describes the gravity of the situation:

ROGERS APPLAUDS WORK OF STRATEGIC POSTURE COMMISSION

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Washington, D.C. – U.S. Representative Mike Rogers (R-AL), Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, released a statement thanking the hard work of the Bipartisan Congressional Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States.

“For the first time in history, the United States must deter two near-peer nuclear adversaries at the same time. The goal of the Strategic Posture Commission was to examine the long-term strategic posture of the United States. The results of their report detailed the gravity of the situation we face and emphasized that the current trajectory of the US nuclear deterrent is insufficient to deter the looming Chinese and Russian threat. I want to thank the commission for producing a clear-eyed, sobering, consensus report. The details of this report should serve as a wakeup call for our strategic posture – we need to rapidly make changes now if we want to deter tomorrow.”
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[JohnDB]

They are fighting against Russia and trying strategically defeat nuclear super-power. That means, that the most important thing they need is to be backed by a capable nuclear power or they might be destroyed on the next level of escalation.

And even quite optimistic (even wishful thinking) report describes the gravity of the situation:



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Washington, D.C. – U.S. Representative Mike Rogers (R-AL), Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, released a statement thanking the hard work of the Bipartisan Congressional Commission on the Strategic Posture of the United States.

“For the first time in history, the United States must deter two near-peer nuclear adversaries at the same time. The goal of the Strategic Posture Commission was to examine the long-term strategic posture of the United States. The results of their report detailed the gravity of the situation we face and emphasized that the current trajectory of the US nuclear deterrent is insufficient to deter the looming Chinese and Russian threat. I want to thank the commission for producing a clear-eyed, sobering, consensus report. The details of this report should serve as a wakeup call for our strategic posture – we need to rapidly make changes now if we want to deter tomorrow.”
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Well,
The concept of Russia being a nuclear superpower has been thoroughly disproven.
Even their latest push in Andiivka has been an utter failure. The Russians paid for every inch of ground with cannon fodder and equipment just to lose the same ground due to insufficient forces to hold those gains.

 

[Silver Cat]

Well,
The concept of Russia being a nuclear superpower has been thoroughly disproven.

Actually, it was proven by inability of NATO to get directly involved in the war. However the Russians are provocative - NATO can't directly attack them and survive.

Even their latest push in Andiivka has been an utter failure. The Russians paid for every inch of ground with cannon fodder and equipment just to lose the same ground due to insufficient forces to hold those gains.

Who said you this? Ukrainians ? It's simply not true.

 

[JohnDB]

Actually, it was proven by inability of NATO to get directly involved in the war. However the Russians are provocative - NATO can't directly attack them and survive.


Who said you this? Ukrainians ? It's simply not true.

Russian milbloggers are lying by complaining about something that didn't happen?

Ya, sure, I'd buy that for a Ruble.

 

[Silver Cat]

Russian milbloggers are lying by complaining about something that didn't happen?

Sure, they are lying. It's their job, you know.
And no, most of them don't tell stories about significant loses near Avdeevka.