Looks Like the Trump Admin is Bringing Dark Secrets to The Light

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.

Well that is interesting.

She should have stuck to cattle futures.
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.
 
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Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin,

Yeah, Obama's red-lines and leading from behind.....very scary stuff.

it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove.

Illegal? Link?
 
It’s called ENTRAPMENT.

THESE STUPID FUCKS AT THE FBI WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO MEMORIALIZE THEIR INTENT TO ENTRAP FYLNN.

Liberals who might not get this. Let’s pretend it was Bush’s FBI who did the EXACT SAME THING TO SUSAN RICE.

Now you think it’s bad, right?

Don’t advocate for the FBI setting up entrapment for Flynn just because Orange Man Bad. That would make you an asshole.
How is it entrapment? How did the FBI induce Flynn to lie?
Did they go in looking for 5he truth or to get him to lie?

The answer to this pop quiz is on comes note.

They straight up say in the memo they want to catch him in a lie so he can be prosecuted or fired.

That’s called ENTRAPMENT....AND ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL.
No, that’s not called entrapment. Entrapment means inducing someone to do something illegal that they wouldn’t have otherwise done.

They asked Flynn a question that they thought he was going to lie about. They thought he was going to lie because he had been telling everyone else the same lie. That’s not entrapment.
Did we or did we not already talk to flynn and those agents said nothing to see here?

Exit 302s

Hey we found the 302s!!!

You are screaming LIAR LIAR at the top of your lungs but no one is looking away from "get him to lie" but you.

It did Not SAY "see if he lies" cause "get him to lie" is pretty specific.

Im trying to understand what you’re writing here. I don’t know exactly what you mean about “those agents said nothing to see here”. I’m only aware of one interview with Flynn and the FBI.

I think you’re referring to the fact that the FBI couldn’t locate a draft of the 302 from his interview. I don’t know why anyone would get all worked up that a draft document couldn’t be located. The actual filed and official 302 has always been available as far as I’m aware.

Answer me this. How did they get him to lie?
Intimidation and coercion of course, and something about his son being threatened etc. Right ??


And?

The extensive reporting around the involvement of Flynn’s son certainly suggests there is legitimate justification for interpreting the Flynn component of the investigation as a prosecutable family affair. Federal prosecutors leveraging one family member against another is a page directly out of a four-decade old prosecutorial playbook used successfully in Wall Street prosecutions. One need not look beyond the Enron prosecutions and guilty pleas of Andrew and Lea Fastow, husband and wife, and the Drexel-related guilty plea of Michael Milken, with Lowell Milken (his brother) averting prosecution, to find the use of this tactic in high profile white-collar prosecutions, that is outside of organized crime and gang prosecutions.
so now you're going to ignore comeys own words that they went around process and procedure so you can pull up a "procedure" that makes this ok; this being a procedure that proves YOUR POINT - HOWEVER - the procedures comey went around were simply not needed and we're good going around having witnesses in the room with flynn when he's giving "testimony".


There are too many claims lacking context here - they need to release everything. What is meant by "process"? That's not saying going around the law for example.

How can you say something is or is not "ok" with all the information and without addressing this question that I've asked before - is this not a normal part of law enforcement? If it is - then why is Flynn exempt? If it isn't - then why was it applied to others such as in Enron, and other investigations of white collar crime?

And - what laws were broken?
as for "what laws were broken" - don't think for a second this isn't on a mental file now as it will come back and i'll ask for the same stance when it doesn't work in your favor and see if you hold to the line, or do what it feels like you always do - shift to your views.

I am fine with that. And I will adhere to the same evidence standards (I.e. I will not use Daily Kos p, the equivalent of ZeroHedge).
Zero hedge doesn't have shit to do with it. They just had the video on the page.

The 2 minute video you won't watch but will dig for a transcript.

As more comes out the struggle to defend the fbi is gonna make people to strange things.
 
Funny that the FBI didn't think Flynn had illegal deals when they were investigating.
...until they did. Yeah.."funny". Haha, fatman made foreign agent head of national security. Tell me another one.




But, you and your imagination
Which part? Every word is a fact, and you know it, thus the pathetic whining.

Flynn: foreign agent

Doing illegal deals with the russian government

Lied to the FBI about it

About to be named head of national security


All facts. Cry until bedtime if you like, they will still be facts tomorrow when you wake up.
Dude you are just making shit up.

One of the biggest fuckheadjeds in here.
 
It’s called ENTRAPMENT.

THESE STUPID FUCKS AT THE FBI WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO MEMORIALIZE THEIR INTENT TO ENTRAP FYLNN.

Liberals who might not get this. Let’s pretend it was Bush’s FBI who did the EXACT SAME THING TO SUSAN RICE.

Now you think it’s bad, right?

Don’t advocate for the FBI setting up entrapment for Flynn just because Orange Man Bad. That would make you an asshole.
How is it entrapment? How did the FBI induce Flynn to lie?
Did they go in looking for 5he truth or to get him to lie?

The answer to this pop quiz is on comes note.

They straight up say in the memo they want to catch him in a lie so he can be prosecuted or fired.

That’s called ENTRAPMENT....AND ITS FUCKING ILLEGAL.
No, that’s not called entrapment. Entrapment means inducing someone to do something illegal that they wouldn’t have otherwise done.

They asked Flynn a question that they thought he was going to lie about. They thought he was going to lie because he had been telling everyone else the same lie. That’s not entrapment.
Did we or did we not already talk to flynn and those agents said nothing to see here?

Exit 302s

Hey we found the 302s!!!

You are screaming LIAR LIAR at the top of your lungs but no one is looking away from "get him to lie" but you.

It did Not SAY "see if he lies" cause "get him to lie" is pretty specific.

Im trying to understand what you’re writing here. I don’t know exactly what you mean about “those agents said nothing to see here”. I’m only aware of one interview with Flynn and the FBI.

I think you’re referring to the fact that the FBI couldn’t locate a draft of the 302 from his interview. I don’t know why anyone would get all worked up that a draft document couldn’t be located. The actual filed and official 302 has always been available as far as I’m aware.

Answer me this. How did they get him to lie?
Intimidation and coercion of course, and something about his son being threatened etc. Right ??


And?

The extensive reporting around the involvement of Flynn’s son certainly suggests there is legitimate justification for interpreting the Flynn component of the investigation as a prosecutable family affair. Federal prosecutors leveraging one family member against another is a page directly out of a four-decade old prosecutorial playbook used successfully in Wall Street prosecutions. One need not look beyond the Enron prosecutions and guilty pleas of Andrew and Lea Fastow, husband and wife, and the Drexel-related guilty plea of Michael Milken, with Lowell Milken (his brother) averting prosecution, to find the use of this tactic in high profile white-collar prosecutions, that is outside of organized crime and gang prosecutions.
so now you're going to ignore comeys own words that they went around process and procedure so you can pull up a "procedure" that makes this ok; this being a procedure that proves YOUR POINT - HOWEVER - the procedures comey went around were simply not needed and we're good going around having witnesses in the room with flynn when he's giving "testimony".


There are too many claims lacking context here - they need to release everything. What is meant by "process"? That's not saying going around the law for example.

How can you say something is or is not "ok" with all the information and without addressing this question that I've asked before - is this not a normal part of law enforcement? If it is - then why is Flynn exempt? If it isn't - then why was it applied to others such as in Enron, and other investigations of white collar crime?

And - what laws were broken?
as for "what laws were broken" - don't think for a second this isn't on a mental file now as it will come back and i'll ask for the same stance when it doesn't work in your favor and see if you hold to the line, or do what it feels like you always do - shift to your views.

I am fine with that. And I will adhere to the same evidence standards (I.e. I will not use Daily Kos p, the equivalent of ZeroHedge).
Zero hedge doesn't have shit to do with it. They just had the video on the page.

The 2 minute video you won't watch but will dig for a transcript.

As more comes out the struggle to defend the fbi is gonna make people to strange things.

Liberals know they are full of garbage on this.

Like I keep saying. If it was Bush’s FBI who did this to Susan Rice, the lefties would lose their minds.
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin,

Yeah, Obama's red-lines and leading from behind.....very scary stuff.

it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove.

Illegal? Link?
You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal? Then you probably shouldn't even be commenting on this topic.

But Flynn would have been very relieved to hear from you that he did nothing illegal.
 
Dude you are just making shit up.
Yet you can't ever seem to say exactly what it is i am making up....i just hear a bunch of screeching....
If you are saying it, you are making it up.
Cry it all out. Good for you.

So now the disgraced foreign agent wants to withdraw his guilty plea (without actually claiming or arguing he is not guilty of the charge to which he pled guilty). I doubt that is granted.

This is political cover for Trump to pardon Flynn. Everyone knows Trump is going to do the wrong thing, because he always does. So this is smart election year strategy. I can't say i am not impressed.
 
Like I keep saying. If it was Bush’s FBI who did this to Susan Rice, the lefties would lose their minds.
I would lose it. This is wrong and I don't care who's side it is.

If this is the gov you want you want America destroyed.

Absolutely. The problem with the left is they have a double standard and as long as it benefits them politically, they do not care at all about the law being broken.

Imagine if a Pub Congress pulled that impeachment shit over that phone call to Ukraine with Obama.

Again, they are total hypocrites and don’t consider that when you set the precedent, it could happen to you.

100%, the next time there is a Dem POTUS and a PUB Congress, the pubs HAVE TO IMPEACH. They simply have in order to show the folly of the Dems.
 
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Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin,

Yeah, Obama's red-lines and leading from behind.....very scary stuff.

it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove.

Illegal? Link?
You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal? Then you probably shouldn't even be commenting on this topic.

But Flynn would have been very relieved to hear from you that he did nothing illegal.

You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal?


You should definitely post those illegal promises.
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin,

Yeah, Obama's red-lines and leading from behind.....very scary stuff.

it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove.

Illegal? Link?
You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal? Then you probably shouldn't even be commenting on this topic.

But Flynn would have been very relieved to hear from you that he did nothing illegal.

You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal?

You should definitely post those illegal promises.
"Do not retaliate against the obama sanction, as we will revisit them after the inaiguration."

This is illegal. Flynn did not have the right to make this promise. He intentionally undermined US diplomacy. Probably not the best look for a foreign agent.
And in totally unrelated news, The Great Dealmaker, President Trump, 4 months into his term, tried ro reverse part of those sanctions by giving russia back their spyhouses. It appeared he was going to give them back for nothing.

But we both know that's not true.
 
Wow....and they got him on what?
Lying about the illegal deals. Failing to register as a foreign agent and violating the logan act are not things that generally get charged prosecuted. But they are still investigated and worthy of investigation.

Haha, it's so funny watching you cultists squirm. Look where you have set the ethical bar for your cult leader and his toadies:

"Is it illegal?"

"Yes"

"But HOW illegal is it?"

"It's a felony."

" Were any white people denied their right to look at confederate statues?"

"No"

"I see nothing wrong here, then."
Logan Act is a joke and that's why they didn't nail him on it. What a buffoon.
Flynn was set up by the FBI. The FBI had his transcripts from their prior meeting
and didn't need to ask him again...it was a done deal. It was a set-up no matter how your mind spins like
a top to make it right between your ears. You know it, I know it, and everyone on this board knows it.

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Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

That'd be a good first step.
Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia, but that's now how it works in the US.

In the US, we have due process, so that criminals like Flynn can plead guilty and be punished humanely.

Well, that may be how things are done in your mother russia,

Dems fellate the commies for 100 years, all it takes is drunken Hillary losing for them to suddenly realize commies are bad.

Hilarious!!!!
Todd, you're going into a tailspin. Get yourself together, man.

Was Obama too flexible with Putin?
Or not flexible enough?
The 5 billion Obama threads are over there --->

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin, as it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove. Obviously they found Trump and his team of felons to be much more flexible.

But, apparently Obama was not flexible enough for Putin,

Yeah, Obama's red-lines and leading from behind.....very scary stuff.

it was Obama's sanctions that Flynn was making illegal promises to Putin to remove.

Illegal? Link?
You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal? Then you probably shouldn't even be commenting on this topic.

But Flynn would have been very relieved to hear from you that he did nothing illegal.

You didn't know that what Flynn was doing was illegal?

You should definitely post those illegal promises.
"Do not retaliate against the obama sanction, as we will revisit them after the inaiguration."

This is illegal. Flynn did not have the right to make this promise. He intentionally undermined US diplomacy. Probably not the best look for a foreign agent.
And in totally unrelated news, The Great Dealmaker, President Trump, 4 months into his term, tried ro reverse part of those sanctions by giving russia back their spyhouses. It appeared he was going to give them back for nothing.

But we both know that's not true.

This is illegal.

Why do you feel that?

Flynn did not have the right to make this promise.

Was he making a promise, or was he repeating Trump policy?
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Flynn is only 33 years old?

The problem was, Flynn did lie about his connections to foreign powers. He plead guilty not only because he was so guilty, but so was his kid.

Also, he was kind of an Islamophobic asshole who probably hurt our efforts with all the crazy talk.
Prove that he lied......I'll not hold my breath....

Pence admitted he lied. Trump admitted he lied. Russians knew he lied. Flynn admitted he lied, multiple times, on multiple subjects to FBI.

What the fuck has to happen for you to start suspecting that he lied?
You are misinformed again....Flynn was set up....is that the kind of law enforcement you want for our nation?....some outgoing loser president from Kenya setting up people in the next administration?....if that turns you on move to China....

So why is it you cannot reasonably explain HOW he was setup?

FBI knew he broke the Logan Act and was lying about his interactions with the Russian embassador. FBI knew he will likely lie to them about it too.

There is nothing improper about getting a guilty man to perjure himself in attempts to cover up his actions.

Someone lies to authorities to try to cover up a possible crime they've committed then OF COURSE it is proper to get charged for perjury.

FBI knew he broke the Logan Act

Is that why he was charged under the Logan Act?

No dummy they didn't because Flynn handed them good ol' perjury on multiple counts.
 
Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Flynn is only 33 years old?

The problem was, Flynn did lie about his connections to foreign powers. He plead guilty not only because he was so guilty, but so was his kid.

Also, he was kind of an Islamophobic asshole who probably hurt our efforts with all the crazy talk.
Prove that he lied......I'll not hold my breath....

Pence admitted he lied. Trump admitted he lied. Russians knew he lied. Flynn admitted he lied, multiple times, on multiple subjects to FBI.

What the fuck has to happen for you to start suspecting that he lied?
You are misinformed again....Flynn was set up....is that the kind of law enforcement you want for our nation?....some outgoing loser president from Kenya setting up people in the next administration?....if that turns you on move to China....

So why is it you cannot reasonably explain HOW he was setup?

FBI knew he broke the Logan Act and was lying about his interactions with the Russian embassador. FBI knew he will likely lie to them about it too.

There is nothing improper about getting a guilty man to perjure himself in attempts to cover up his actions.

Someone lies to authorities to try to cover up a possible crime they've committed then OF COURSE it is proper to get charged for perjury.

FBI knew he broke the Logan Act

Is that why he was charged under the Logan Act?

No dummy they didn't because Flynn handed them good ol' perjury on multiple counts.
They set him up, they already had the transcripts. You guys are just dense...or just partisan minions to 'the cause'.
 

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