Lost Generation

[Star]

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So what’s the big deal? How do they [Scandinavian countries] find the perfect balance? Three factors explain most of the success of the Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.
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[deltex1]

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So what’s the big deal? How do they [Scandinavian countries] find the perfect balance? Three factors explain most of the success of the Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.
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Yo Nordo...mind your own business or we will crush you like a bug.

 

[aaronleland]

Yo Nordo...mind your own business or we will crush you like a bug.

Translation: Might is right. As long as we can bomb any other country into oblivion, why bother discussing other societal issues?

 

[Star]

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So what’s the big deal? How do they [Scandinavian countries] find the perfect balance? Three factors explain most of the success of the Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.​

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Yo Nordo...mind your own business or we will crush you like a bug.

Somebody needs a cold shower - if you still have water at your house, check the time you're allowed to take a cold shower and...

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[deltex1]

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So what’s the big deal? How do they [Scandinavian countries] find the perfect balance? Three factors explain most of the success of the Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.​

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Yo Nordo...mind your own business or we will crush you like a bug.

Somebody needs a cold shower - if you still have water at your house, check the time you're allowed to take a cold shower and...

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Yo Star...you still I touch with notfooled..?.. If you are tell him hello and GFH.

 

[Vox]

ow do they [Scandinavian countries] find the perfect balance? Three factors explain most of the success of the Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.[/COLOR]
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and 15 million people vs 315 and no illegals jumping the fence

 

[deltex1]

Yo Nordo...mind your own business or we will crush you like a bug.

Translation: Might is right. As long as we can bomb any other country into oblivion, why bother discussing other societal issues?

You miss the point, Gertrude...if the Nordos are so advanced why are they so far behind?

 

[Warrior102]

Nordic model: universal health care, public financing and education.

And 78% of their income is taxed, imbecile.

I was in Oslo (the most expensive city in the WORLD - not Tokyo) 3 years ago and the seafood salad at TGIFs was $100 !!

Grow a freaking brain, imbecile.

 

[Vox]

Somebody needs a cold shower - if you still have water at your house, check the time you're allowed to take a cold shower and...[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

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that is more pertinent for your libtard-blown "green" agenda-driven country, where everything will soon be rationed Including water

 

[Trajan]

so, lets see;

its a free article, read the whole thing, I snipped the last 3 paragraphs and spread them out for clarity...


The Swedish Model
It's the free-market reforms, stupid.
January 26, 2011

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By the late 1980s, though, Sweden had started de-regulating its markets once again, decreased its marginal tax rates, and opted for a sound-money, low-inflation policy. In the early 1990s, the pace quickened, and most markets except for labor and housing were liberalized. The state sold its shares in a number of companies, granted independence to its central bank, and introduced school vouchers that improved choice and competition in education. Stockholm slashed public pensions and introduced private retirement schemes, keeping the system demographically sustainable.

These decisive economic liberalizations, and not socialism, are what laid the foundations for Sweden's success over the last 15 years. After the reforms of the early 1990s, Swedes' real wages increased by roughly 35% in a decade. And, as businesses have become more productive and people's incomes have risen, living standards improved. More people eat at restaurants now, more people travel abroad, more people buy DVDs and new cars. More people get more.

The path to reform has, however, come only in waves. After the intense overhauls of the early 1990s, the pace slowed somewhat and it wasn't until a center-right government returned to power in 2006 that free-market reforms picked up again. That center-right coalition, led by my own Moderate Party, was re-elected last year, after beating our leftist opposition by almost seven percentage points. The leftists' campaign promise? To roll back economic reforms.

Even smarting from the financial crisis, Swedes turned the leftists down. Over the last four years, they have seen their borders opened for more labor migration, they have seen still more state-owned companies sold, and have seen their public authorities shrink in number. Stockholm has also cut property taxes and abolished the wealth tax, and instituted a new system of income-tax credits that lets working people with average incomes keep what amounts to an extra month of wages, after taxes, per year. Today, the state's total tax take comes to 45% of GDP, from 56% ten years ago.

Meanwhile, unemployment benefits, sick leave and early retirement plans have all been streamlined to encourage work. The number of people receiving such welfare—which soared during the socialist decades—has fallen by 150,000 since 2006, a main reason for Sweden's remarkably sound public finances. Stockholm has also introduced a law that empowers Swedes to chose their providers for health care and other public services. This has led to a robust surge in entrepreneurship within the health-care sector, where more competition is bound to improve services.

Challenges such as youth unemployment, inflexible housing markets, waiting lists for health services, and too-high taxes, still plague the country. So reforms that increase economic freedoms should and will continue—the results so far have been more than encouraging. That is the real lesson to be learned from "the Swedish model."

 

[Warrior102]

Sweden's average home price at 'record high' - The Local

 

[francoHFW]

So, they don't pay much more in taxes than we do, and we get little but Pubs who end regulations and allow scam crony online colleges that screw vets and are 40% of ALL bad loans, etc etc etc etc. Pub dupes.

 

[deltex1]

so, lets see;

its a free article, read the whole thing, I snipped the last 3 paragraphs and spread them out for clarity...


The Swedish Model
It's the free-market reforms, stupid.
January 26, 2011

snip-

By the late 1980s, though, Sweden had started de-regulating its markets once again, decreased its marginal tax rates, and opted for a sound-money, low-inflation policy. In the early 1990s, the pace quickened, and most markets except for labor and housing were liberalized. The state sold its shares in a number of companies, granted independence to its central bank, and introduced school vouchers that improved choice and competition in education. Stockholm slashed public pensions and introduced private retirement schemes, keeping the system demographically sustainable.

These decisive economic liberalizations, and not socialism, are what laid the foundations for Sweden's success over the last 15 years. After the reforms of the early 1990s, Swedes' real wages increased by roughly 35% in a decade. And, as businesses have become more productive and people's incomes have risen, living standards improved. More people eat at restaurants now, more people travel abroad, more people buy DVDs and new cars. More people get more.

The path to reform has, however, come only in waves. After the intense overhauls of the early 1990s, the pace slowed somewhat and it wasn't until a center-right government returned to power in 2006 that free-market reforms picked up again. That center-right coalition, led by my own Moderate Party, was re-elected last year, after beating our leftist opposition by almost seven percentage points. The leftists' campaign promise? To roll back economic reforms.

Even smarting from the financial crisis, Swedes turned the leftists down. Over the last four years, they have seen their borders opened for more labor migration, they have seen still more state-owned companies sold, and have seen their public authorities shrink in number. Stockholm has also cut property taxes and abolished the wealth tax, and instituted a new system of income-tax credits that lets working people with average incomes keep what amounts to an extra month of wages, after taxes, per year. Today, the state's total tax take comes to 45% of GDP, from 56% ten years ago.

Meanwhile, unemployment benefits, sick leave and early retirement plans have all been streamlined to encourage work. The number of people receiving such welfare—which soared during the socialist decades—has fallen by 150,000 since 2006, a main reason for Sweden's remarkably sound public finances. Stockholm has also introduced a law that empowers Swedes to chose their providers for health care and other public services. This has led to a robust surge in entrepreneurship within the health-care sector, where more competition is bound to improve services.

Challenges such as youth unemployment, inflexible housing markets, waiting lists for health services, and too-high taxes, still plague the country. So reforms that increase economic freedoms should and will continue—the results so far have been more than encouraging. That is the real lesson to be learned from "the Swedish model."

Are you saying Star withheld pertinent information?. He should be ashamed.

 

[OriginalShroom]

Even smarting from the financial crisis, Swedes turned the leftists down. Over the last four years, they have seen their borders opened for more labor migration, they have seen still more state-owned companies sold, and have seen their public authorities shrink in number. Stockholm has also cut property taxes and abolished the wealth tax, and instituted a new system of income-tax credits that lets working people with average incomes keep what amounts to an extra month of wages, after taxes, per year. Today, the state's total tax take comes to 45% of GDP, from 56% ten years ago.

Meanwhile, unemployment benefits, sick leave and early retirement plans have all been streamlined to encourage work. The number of people receiving such welfare—which soared during the socialist decades—has fallen by 150,000 since 2006, a main reason for Sweden's remarkably sound public finances. Stockholm has also introduced a law that empowers Swedes to chose their providers for health care and other public services. This has led to a robust surge in entrepreneurship within the health-care sector, where more competition is bound to improve services.

Challenges such as youth unemployment, inflexible housing markets, waiting lists for health services, and too-high taxes, still plague the country. So reforms that increase economic freedoms should and will continue—the results so far have been more than encouraging. That is the real lesson to be learned from "the Swedish model."

They are doing just the opposite of what Obama and the Democrats want us to do..

And they are starting to thrive after failing using plans nearly identical to what Obama and Democrats are trying to do.

There is a lesson here if the left was smart enough to learn from it.

 

[OriginalShroom]

So, they don't pay much more in taxes than we do, and we get little but Pubs who end regulations and allow scam crony online colleges that screw vets and are 40% of ALL bad loans, etc etc etc etc. Pub dupes.

You wouldnt be talking about the bad loans the banks made at the insistance of the Left, now would you?

 

[konradv]

Sweden's average home price at 'record high' - The Local

Sounds good for the home owner. Aren't we worried about all the homes with mortgages higher than their value here?

 

[francoHFW]

So, they don't pay much more in taxes than we do, and we get little but Pubs who end regulations and allow scam crony online colleges that screw vets and are 40% of ALL bad loans, etc etc etc etc. Pub dupes.

You wouldnt be talking about the bad loans the banks made at the insistance of the Left, now would you?

That's a Pub real estate myth- W's regulators allowed WORTHLESS loans being rated A+, bundled, insured, and sold around the world. How'd that work out?.

No here we're discussing education. Under Booosh, the cost of public colleges DOUBLED, and W also changed regulations to allow scam online colleges run by cronies, which have resulted in defrauding many returning vets with expensive bs online colleges, and useless diplomas that result in loans not being repaid. Reaganist policies have ruined the nonrich and the country since 1982 or so, and continue to.

 

[francoHFW]

bump

 

[Star]

so, lets see;

its a free article, read the whole thing, I snipped the last 3 paragraphs and spread them out for clarity...


The Swedish Model
It's the free-market reforms, stupid.
January 26, 2011

snip-

By the late 1980s, though, Sweden had started de-regulating its markets once again, decreased its marginal tax rates, and opted for a sound-money, low-inflation policy. In the early 1990s, the pace quickened, and most markets except for labor and housing were liberalized. The state sold its shares in a number of companies, granted independence to its central bank, and introduced school vouchers that improved choice and competition in education. Stockholm slashed public pensions and introduced private retirement schemes, keeping the system demographically sustainable.

These decisive economic liberalizations, and not socialism, are what laid the foundations for Sweden's success over the last 15 years. After the reforms of the early 1990s, Swedes' real wages increased by roughly 35% in a decade. And, as businesses have become more productive and people's incomes have risen, living standards improved. More people eat at restaurants now, more people travel abroad, more people buy DVDs and new cars. More people get more.

The path to reform has, however, come only in waves. After the intense overhauls of the early 1990s, the pace slowed somewhat and it wasn't until a center-right government returned to power in 2006 that free-market reforms picked up again. That center-right coalition, led by my own Moderate Party, was re-elected last year, after beating our leftist opposition by almost seven percentage points. The leftists' campaign promise? To roll back economic reforms.

Even smarting from the financial crisis, Swedes turned the leftists down. Over the last four years, they have seen their borders opened for more labor migration, they have seen still more state-owned companies sold, and have seen their public authorities shrink in number. Stockholm has also cut property taxes and abolished the wealth tax, and instituted a new system of income-tax credits that lets working people with average incomes keep what amounts to an extra month of wages, after taxes, per year. Today, the state's total tax take comes to 45% of GDP, from 56% ten years ago.

Meanwhile, unemployment benefits, sick leave and early retirement plans have all been streamlined to encourage work. The number of people receiving such welfare—which soared during the socialist decades—has fallen by 150,000 since 2006, a main reason for Sweden's remarkably sound public finances. Stockholm has also introduced a law that empowers Swedes to chose their providers for health care and other public services. This has led to a robust surge in entrepreneurship within the health-care sector, where more competition is bound to improve services.

Challenges such as youth unemployment, inflexible housing markets, waiting lists for health services, and too-high taxes, still plague the country. So reforms that increase economic freedoms should and will continue—the results so far have been more than encouraging. That is the real lesson to be learned from "the Swedish model."

Are you saying Star withheld pertinent information?. He should be ashamed.

Had you thought to click on the link in the OP ☞ here, you'd have discovered much the same information without the snarkiness of a Rupert Murdoch WSJ opinion piece.

What makes the Nordic model work are, as I pointed out in the OP, are the safety nets - universal health care, public financing and education. If an entrepreneur in Sweden fails s/he will land softly and swiftly bounce back, in the US if you fail... second chances are rare enough we tell inspirational stories about those that pull it off and-----and the US has one of the lowest rates of upward mobility in the industrial world - not so in Nordic Model countries, in Nordic Model countries...

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Most Dems I know and I-----I for one have said in the past and I'll say it again - the American dream is being lived in the Scandinavian countries.


Swedes pay 70 percent of salary in taxes: study

The Local
SWEDEN'S NEWS IN ENGLISH
18 Oct 2012

Swedes who earn a salary on par with the average municipal worker contribute the equivalent of 70 percent of their monthly salaries in taxes, a new study has found.

Workers who earn 25,000 kronor ($3,810) per month end up paying 69 percent, or 17,200 kronor per month, in taxes, according to an analysis carried out by Swedbank.

According to Statistics Sweden, the average salary of a municipal worker in Sweden in 2011 was 25,000 kronor.

Meanwhile, two-child households earning 55,000 kronor per month contribute 38,000 kronor in taxes, Swedbank found.

The sum includes taxes deducted from one's paycheck; value added taxes paid on consumption; as well as payroll taxes paid by employers.

All told, taxes account for Swedes' largest monthly expense by far.

"Taxes visible in our paychecks are one thing, but when you include taxes on consumption and payroll taxes, taxes end up being three times as high," Maria Ahrengart of Swedbank's Institute for Personal Finance (Institutet för Privatekonomi) said in a statement.

In 2011, Swedes paid a total of 1.56 trillion kronor in taxes.

According to Swedbank's analysis, which traced exactly where Swedes' tax money is spent, municipalities and the pension system consume most of what Swedes pay in taxes.

"It's good to know what the money actually goes to and how tax money is divided," Ahrengart told the TT news agency.

Of the 17,200 kronor in tax generated by a monthly salary of 25,000 kronor, 6,100 kronor or about 35 percent, goes to municipal taxes, while the pension system receives 4,300 kronor, or about 25 percent.

Taxes paid directly to the state account for just under 20 percent of the worker's tax bill, or about 40,000 kronor per year.

Of that sum, about 1,700 kronor goes to help pay Sweden's European Union membership fee, with an equal amount going toward foreign development aid.

About 3,000 kronor is spent annually on education, compared with 2,500 kronor on defence and 4,200 on children and family programmes.

Meanwhile, of the 73,000 kronor paid in local taxes annually, elderly care consumes the largest amount -- 14,000 kronor, or about 19 percent -- while childcare and education account for about 30,000 kronor, or 41 percent.

"Much of what we pay in, we get out again in different ways," Ahrengart told TT.
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[francoHFW]

I.E. the UK and USA have the worst upward mobility now- savage capitalism from tories and Pubs. That is the most incomprehensible graph I've ever seen.