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Awww. The dude who tells us how honest he is has lied about how much a burger will cost if we pay people enough to live on. Sad. Believe me.
I lied? What was the lie?
You know that the price of a burger will not go up by $10. if the minimum wage is raised to $15 per hour. That was a lie aimed at duping morons.
One of our holier than thou both sides whiners is using propaganda to make his case. Sad.
Did I say that the price would go up by $10?
Yes.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
It won't be an extra Ten dollars; even the dollar menu won't double.Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone.
In my state, minimum wage is 8.25, so you are wanting to almost double that. And if the lowest end people get paid more, those above them would need cosponsoring pay raises. It is an endless cycle that never works out well for the people it is supposed to help
Incorrect.
Show some evidence I am incorrect. Because I said so does not really cut it.
Seattle. All the evidence one needs.
I lied? What was the lie?
You know that the price of a burger will not go up by $10. if the minimum wage is raised to $15 per hour. That was a lie aimed at duping morons.
One of our holier than thou both sides whiners is using propaganda to make his case. Sad.
Did I say that the price would go up by $10?
Yes.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
Please restate your comment regarding the "extra $10 for a burger". Thanks.
Here it is.
"Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone."
It won't be an extra Ten dollars; even the dollar menu won't double.
In my state, minimum wage is 8.25, so you are wanting to almost double that. And if the lowest end people get paid more, those above them would need cosponsoring pay raises. It is an endless cycle that never works out well for the people it is supposed to help
Incorrect.
Show some evidence I am incorrect. Because I said so does not really cut it.
Seattle. All the evidence one needs.
I agree.
They Said Seattle’s Higher Base Pay Would Hurt Workers. Why Did They Flip?
UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs
Here’s what happened when Seattle raised the minimum wage to $15
Trade policy to maximize potential for those jobs, and immigration policy to dry up the labor pool for those jobs.
I've seen the difference for those jobs between different environments. I saw what happened when my mother-in-law's work place (hospital where she worked as a nurse's aide) was bought out by a major urban hospital.
Before hand, she made a decent wage, based on the environment of the rural area it was placed in. She had been able to support her family while her husband spent years slowly building up his small business.
Once the new system came in, and changed the pay scale to what had developed in the city, wages were drastically lowered, and she choose to retire at that point.
A difference of a few dollars an hour, pay wise, can be the difference between poverty, and working poor, or even lower middle class.
You know that the price of a burger will not go up by $10. if the minimum wage is raised to $15 per hour. That was a lie aimed at duping morons.
One of our holier than thou both sides whiners is using propaganda to make his case. Sad.
Did I say that the price would go up by $10?
Yes.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
Please restate your comment regarding the "extra $10 for a burger". Thanks.
Here it is.
"Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone."
You just posted it, I do not need to restate it.
Do you agree or disagree that people will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger?
In my state, minimum wage is 8.25, so you are wanting to almost double that. And if the lowest end people get paid more, those above them would need cosponsoring pay raises. It is an endless cycle that never works out well for the people it is supposed to help
Incorrect.
Show some evidence I am incorrect. Because I said so does not really cut it.
Seattle. All the evidence one needs.
I agree.
They Said Seattle’s Higher Base Pay Would Hurt Workers. Why Did They Flip?
UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs
Here’s what happened when Seattle raised the minimum wage to $15
Please pick one of those and I will look at it. It is very likely that you've cited faulty studies.
Which one do you like best?
Perfect time to raise the minimum wageThe Left can BS voters about a lot of things, but no politician can fool voters about their personal economic situation and that of their neighbors and friends.
Low-earning Americans are seeing the biggest wage gains in a decade.
When it will have the least impact
Incorrect.
Show some evidence I am incorrect. Because I said so does not really cut it.
Seattle. All the evidence one needs.
I agree.
They Said Seattle’s Higher Base Pay Would Hurt Workers. Why Did They Flip?
UW study finds Seattle’s minimum wage is costing jobs
Here’s what happened when Seattle raised the minimum wage to $15
Please pick one of those and I will look at it. It is very likely that you've cited faulty studies.
Which one do you like best?
Pick which ever one you like and then provide some counter evidence beyond "because I said so". That is all you have had to offer yet.
How can everything be going so wonderful under Trump when we really really....really hate him
Did I say that the price would go up by $10?
Yes.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
Please restate your comment regarding the "extra $10 for a burger". Thanks.
Here it is.
"Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone."
You just posted it, I do not need to restate it.
Do you agree or disagree that people will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger?
They will not be asked to. That is the point of contention here. You've inferred that the result of a minimum wage hike would be a drastic increase in the price of a hamburger. That's not proven by the facts and evidence.
Trade policy to maximize potential for those jobs, and immigration policy to dry up the labor pool for those jobs.
The problem is that jobs "lost" to trade if there is such a thing are not minimum wage jobs.
Though I do agree with the second part.
I've seen the difference for those jobs between different environments. I saw what happened when my mother-in-law's work place (hospital where she worked as a nurse's aide) was bought out by a major urban hospital.
Before hand, she made a decent wage, based on the environment of the rural area it was placed in. She had been able to support her family while her husband spent years slowly building up his small business.
Once the new system came in, and changed the pay scale to what had developed in the city, wages were drastically lowered, and she choose to retire at that point.
A difference of a few dollars an hour, pay wise, can be the difference between poverty, and working poor, or even lower middle class.
If you do not mind me asking ,when did this happen?
Trade policy to maximize potential for those jobs, and immigration policy to dry up the labor pool for those jobs.
The problem is that jobs "lost" to trade if there is such a thing are not minimum wage jobs.
Though I do agree with the second part.
I've seen the difference for those jobs between different environments. I saw what happened when my mother-in-law's work place (hospital where she worked as a nurse's aide) was bought out by a major urban hospital.
Before hand, she made a decent wage, based on the environment of the rural area it was placed in. She had been able to support her family while her husband spent years slowly building up his small business.
Once the new system came in, and changed the pay scale to what had developed in the city, wages were drastically lowered, and she choose to retire at that point.
A difference of a few dollars an hour, pay wise, can be the difference between poverty, and working poor, or even lower middle class.
If you do not mind me asking ,when did this happen?
2. Don't recall exactly. 5 to 10 years ago. I could ask my wife, who would likely remember better, if it matters. Why do you ask?
Yes.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
Please restate your comment regarding the "extra $10 for a burger". Thanks.
Here it is.
"Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone."
You just posted it, I do not need to restate it.
Do you agree or disagree that people will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger?
They will not be asked to. That is the point of contention here. You've inferred that the result of a minimum wage hike would be a drastic increase in the price of a hamburger. That's not proven by the facts and evidence.
Which is because these places are not willing to raise prices and pass along costs to Consumers, which is the point I was responding to. Instead of doing that they cut jobs and hours for those still working.
Golfing Gator,
Vigdor's initial UW study was, as I expected, flawed. It used insufficient data. Specifiaclly, it left out 38% of impacted workers who worked for large, multi-location businesses.
He renounced the findings in that study and did a second study which showed that, overall, workers gained in take home pay while working the same or fewer hours. Here is that second study.
Minimum Wage Increases and Individual Employment Trajectories
Enjoy.
You have a reading comprehension problem. Have you thought about going back and getting your GED and working on that?
Please restate your comment regarding the "extra $10 for a burger". Thanks.
Here it is.
"Consumers will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger so that your artificial minimum wage can be maintained.
The market works when people leave it alone."
You just posted it, I do not need to restate it.
Do you agree or disagree that people will not pay an extra 10 bucks for a burger?
They will not be asked to. That is the point of contention here. You've inferred that the result of a minimum wage hike would be a drastic increase in the price of a hamburger. That's not proven by the facts and evidence.
Which is because these places are not willing to raise prices and pass along costs to Consumers, which is the point I was responding to. Instead of doing that they cut jobs and hours for those still working.
You question my reading comprehension skills when you should evaluate your own communication skills. You were not clear in making your point. Try harder.
2. Don't recall exactly. 5 to 10 years ago. I could ask my wife, who would likely remember better, if it matters. Why do you ask?
Because the chances are all of that happened due to ObamaCare. ObamaCare caused many smaller hospital to have to sell out to major urban hospital or other healthcare conglomerates. The same thing took place at the hospital my wife used to work at. As an RN she did not see a pay cut but the PCTs did and they saw hours cut. The nurses had more patients added with less PCT help. Not a good thing
Golfing Gator,
Vigdor's initial UW study was, as I expected, flawed. It used insufficient data. Specifiaclly, it left out 38% of impacted workers who worked for large, multi-location businesses.
He renounced the findings in that study and did a second study which showed that, overall, workers gained in take home pay while working the same or fewer hours. Here is that second study.
Minimum Wage Increases and Individual Employment Trajectories
Enjoy.
I do not think this really helps your case...
We attribute significant hourly wage increases and hours reductions to the policy. On net, the minimum wage increase from $9.47 to as much as $13 per hour raised earnings by an average of $8-$12 per week. The entirety of these gains accrued to workers with above-median experience at baseline; less-experienced workers saw no significant change to weekly pay. Approximately one-quarter of the earnings gains can be attributed to experienced workers making up for lost hours in Seattle with work outside the city limits. We associate the minimum wage ordinance with an 8% reduction in job turnover rates as well as a significant reduction in the rate of new entries into the workforce.
