Kathianne said:Seriously, I think any topic that a significant percentage of the students or facualty wish to have addressed should be. ID qualifies for that. My initial take is that it will be brought over the coals and be shown to be psuedo science. But then again, science is not my field. Does that answer that part of the question?
My problem with you is that you want NO discussion. Just dismiss based on YOUR belief system. That is just wrong.
Well at least you realize that it is pseudoscience. And now for the absolute crippling slaughter of every definition that you just looked up.
I put your definitions in bold. The recurring theme is a problem of data collection.
* n principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses
You cant collect metaphysical data. This rules out ID
* the 'tool' that scientists use to find the answer to questions (The Scientific Method allows scientists to solve complicated problems by taking a series of smaller steps:
This is vague because they dont outline the smaller steps. Id be guessing that one of them is collecting data.
* the step by step process by which scientists investigate hypotheses using experiments
If you find a way in which we can experiment with supernatural invisible beings then let me know. Im all ears.
* A procedure used by scientists to test hypotheses by making predictions about the outcome of an experiment before the experiment is performed. The results provide support or refutation of the hypothesis.
Well since we cant actually do the experiment Id go out on a limb and say that predicting the outcome might be difficult. And since we cant actually do it the last sentence cant happen. There would be nothing to support or refute your hypothesis
* A process that is the basis for scientific inquiry. The scientific method follows a series of steps: (1) identify a problem you would like to solve, (2) formulate a hypothesis, (3) test the hypothesis, (4) collect and analyze the data, (5) make conclusions.
Well we cant do 3 or 4 so that rules out 5 as well. So you can do 1 and 2.
* the means of science by which phenomena are observed, hypotheses are tested, and conclusions are drawn.
Were stuck with that whole impossible testing thing again so looks like were SOL(shit out of luck)
* The process of conducting scientific inquiry.
Well this is vague but I guess you could do this with ID
* The set of rules used to guide science, based on the idea that scientific laws be continually tested, and modified or replaced if found inadequate.
Nope cant do that one either. Damn this sucks
* orderly process by which theories are developed, tested, and either verified or disproved.
Cant do that one either
* A systematic approach to observing phenomena, drawing conclusions and testing hypotheses.
Negative captain. We cant do that either
* Systematic approach of observation, hypothesis formation, hypothesis testing and hypothesis evaluation that forms the basis for modern science.
Nope
* A method for doing science based on the assumption that all true knowledge is verifiable using empirical evidence. Well-ordered, successive stages--defining a research problem, constructing hypotheses, data gathering and analysis, and prediction of facts--are outlined.
No we cant do that with ID either
* Systematic methods used in scientific investigations of the natural world, which include designing controlled experiments, gathering data, and developing and testing hypotheses.
No we cant do that either. And take special notice of natural world in the definition
* procedure scientists use to gain knowledge about the physical universe
Well if they would have said metaphysical instead of physical I would have given you this one
* the procedure scientists follow to understand the natural world 1) the observation of phenomena or the results of experiments; (2) the formulation of hypotheses that describe these phenomena and that are consistent with the body of knowledge available; (3) the testing of these hypotheses by noting whether or not they adequately predict and describe new phenomena or the results of new experiments; (4) the modification or rejection of hypotheses that are not confirmed by observations or ...
No cant do this one either
* is a procedure for conducting research that states that a testable hypothesis should be verifiable and the results repeatable
Cant do this one either
* An approach that can be used to discover accurate information. It includes the following steps: conceptualize the problem, collect data, draw conclusions, and revise research conclusions and theory.
Nope
* a plan of inquiry that uses science process skills as tools to gather, organize, analyze, and communicate information
* a method of investigation involving observation and theory to test scientific hypotheses
Did you notice how they use THEORIES to test things? This should be the ultimate slap in the face for people who say that something is just a theory
* A scientific method or process is considered fundamental to the scientific investigation and acquisition of new knowledge based upon physical evidence. Scientists use observations, hypotheses and deductions to propose explanations for natural phenomena in the form of theories. Predictions from these theories are tested by experiment. If a prediction turns out to be correct, the theory survives. Any theory which is cogent enough to make predictions can then be tested reproducibly in this way. ...
Well we cant test anything so were screwed again
Sorry Kathianne but you just spent a lot of time looking up as many definitions as possible and ID doesnt fit into any of them. It seems that the limiting factor is data collection. You cant collect supernatural data so you have literally nothing to test. You probably just helped me prove my point. Thanks.