Mahmoud Abbas: First Obstacle to Peace

[pbel]

A link to what? A link that identifies US dollars to Israel? I already addressed that.

What was your point?

Let's face it you fudged the truth.

Identify where.

You posted:Of these, the aid given to Israel (and nearly all of it) comes back to the US through the purchase of American goods. Furthermore, the joint defense benefits, e.g. R&D, has been extremely beneficial to the US as well. As such, US Foreign Aid to Israel has been symbiotic.



http://www.wrmea.org/congress-and-us...nd-impact.html

By Stephen Zunes

Dr. Zunes is an assistant professor in the Department of Politics at the University of San Francisco

Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.
In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country. Nor do these figures include short- and long-term commercial loans from U.S. banks, which have been as high as $1 billion annually in recent years.
Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes.

 

[Hollie]

Let's face it you fudged the truth.

Identify where.

You posted:Of these, the aid given to Israel (and nearly all of it) comes back to the US through the purchase of American goods. Furthermore, the joint defense benefits, e.g. R&D, has been extremely beneficial to the US as well. As such, US Foreign Aid to Israel has been symbiotic.



http://www.wrmea.org/congress-and-us...nd-impact.html

By Stephen Zunes

Dr. Zunes is an assistant professor in the Department of Politics at the University of San Francisco

Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.
In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country. Nor do these figures include short- and long-term commercial loans from U.S. banks, which have been as high as $1 billion annually in recent years.
Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes.

You simply cut and pasted the same stuff you cut and pasted before.

So once again, you're hoping to shield your false claim with a cut and paste.

 

[Hollie]

One corrupt gang for another one. Cool.

There goes Herr Mauser, making accusations without any proof whatsoever...Provide us with a link showing the corruption levels of both parties.

Cool folks open a search, enter a "hamas corruption" string and enjoy reading about how corrupt hamas is! That easy. As a general observation of Herr Mauser, palistanians, getting out of one pile of manure, don't waste time and get into another one, and all of their own volition, of course! Isn't that funny?

It seems not so funny for the idiots who voted Islamic terrorists into office.

But then again, "Palestinian" Arabs never miss an opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot.

Hamas corruption weighs heavily on Gaza | The American Task Force on Palestine

 

[pbel]

Identify where.

You posted:Of these, the aid given to Israel (and nearly all of it) comes back to the US through the purchase of American goods. Furthermore, the joint defense benefits, e.g. R&D, has been extremely beneficial to the US as well. As such, US Foreign Aid to Israel has been symbiotic.



http://www.wrmea.org/congress-and-us...nd-impact.html

By Stephen Zunes

Dr. Zunes is an assistant professor in the Department of Politics at the University of San Francisco

Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, which has undoubtedly helped Israel's often-touted claim that they have never defaulted on a U.S. government loan. U.S. policy since 1984 has been that economic assistance to Israel must equal or exceed Israel's annual debt repayment to the United States. Unlike other countries, which receive aid in quarterly installments, aid to Israel since 1982 has been given in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, leaving the U.S. government to borrow from future revenues. Israel even lends some of this money back through U.S. treasury bills and collects the additional interest.
In addition, there is the more than $1.5 billion in private U.S. funds that go to Israel annually in the form of $1 billion in private tax-deductible donations and $500 million in Israeli bonds. The ability of Americans to make what amounts to tax-deductible contributions to a foreign government, made possible through a number of Jewish charities, does not exist with any other country. Nor do these figures include short- and long-term commercial loans from U.S. banks, which have been as high as $1 billion annually in recent years.
Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes.

You simply cut and pasted the same stuff you cut and pasted before.

So once again, you're hoping to shield your false claim with a cut and paste.

Keep dancing and dodging around your fudging the truth...

 

[Hollie]

You posted:Of these, the aid given to Israel (and nearly all of it) comes back to the US through the purchase of American goods. Furthermore, the joint defense benefits, e.g. R&D, has been extremely beneficial to the US as well. As such, US Foreign Aid to Israel has been symbiotic.



Keep dancing and dodging around your fudging the truth...

Well actually, you're the one hoping to sidestep your lies and falsehoods.

U.S. Aid to Israel: Why It?s a Must | FrontPage Magazine

First, there is a financial reciprocity in this “special relationship” quite unlike any other that the USA has. Much, and in many years most, of the money that the USA gives Israel has been used by Israel to purchase goods and services, both military and civilian, from the USA, so that American aid money is recycled back into the American economy. Nearly 90% of US aid to Israel is military, and Israel spends about 75% of that buying U.S. goods. This aid has been described as an indirect American subsidy to U.S. arms manufacturers.

 

[docmauser1]

wrmea.org By Stephen Zunes
Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, ...

Ahh, that washington report garbage dump.

 

[pbel]

wrmea.org By Stephen Zunes
Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, ...

Ahh, that washington report garbage dump.

Oh yes the expert on garbage Herr Mauser. LMAO

 

[docmauser1]

wrmea.org By Stephen Zunes
Since 1992, the U.S. has offered Israel an additional $2 billion annually in loan guarantees. Congressional researchers have disclosed that between 1974 and 1989, $16.4 billion in U.S. military loans were converted to grants and that this was the understanding from the beginning. Indeed, all past U.S. loans to Israel have eventually been forgiven by Congress, ...

Ahh, that washington report garbage dump.

Oh yes the expert on garbage Herr Mauser. LMAO

Of course! With so many honorable individuals around here, peddling garbage, snake oil and general drivel, one has to be!

 

[pbel]

Well actually, you're the one hoping to sidestep your lies and falsehoods.

U.S. Aid to Israel: Why It?s a Must | FrontPage Magazine

First, there is a financial reciprocity in this “special relationship” quite unlike any other that the USA has. Much, and in many years most, of the money that the USA gives Israel has been used by Israel to purchase goods and services, both military and civilian, from the USA, so that American aid money is recycled back into the American economy. Nearly 90% of US aid to Israel is military, and Israel spends about 75% of that buying U.S. goods. This aid has been described as an indirect American subsidy to U.S. arms manufacturers.

I tell you, the crock is over your knees and rising...Israeli trade and arm purchases are AIPAC depravities foisted upon our government and the threat of money boycotts or campaign contributions by a very cohesive rich minority which also sends 1.5 billion in US deductible donations to a foreign country.

Our Government has demanded peace and has not recognized any Israeli annexations beyond the 67 green line. Building settlements against US wishes. That is the power of AIPAC and we desperately need Campaign Finance Reform!

 

[Hollie]

I tell you, the crock is over your knees and rising...Israeli trade and arm purchases are AIPAC depravities foisted upon our government and the threat of money boycotts or campaign contributions by a very cohesive rich minority which also sends 1.5 billion in US deductible donations to a foreign country.

Our Government has demanded peace and has not recognized any Israeli annexations beyond the 67 green line. Building settlements against US wishes. That is the power of AIPAC and we desperately need Campaign Finance Reform!

Ah, I see you’re not finished with your feverish, sweaty obsessing over the US / Israeli cooperation that has mutually beneficial aims and goals.

Could we agree that halting aid to third world islamist backwaters would free-up some more cash to be used for joint US / Israeli enterprises?

 

[pbel]

Ah, I see you’re not finished with your feverish, sweaty obsessing over the US / Israeli cooperation that has mutually beneficial aims and goals.

Could we agree that halting aid to third world islamist backwaters would free-up some more cash to be used for joint US / Israeli enterprises?

So would peace, besides Walt and Mearsheimer have already dispelled the notion that Israel is a strategic asset to America...We import less than 10% of our energy needs and this year or early next we will be a net exporter.

What strategic interest, bankrupting our nation with losing wars in the ME and Afghanistan?

 

[Hollie]

So would peace, besides Walt and Mearsheimer have already dispelled the notion that Israel is a strategic asset to America...We import less than 10% of our energy needs and this year or early next we will be a net exporter.

No such notion has been dispelled. We (the US), have mutually beneficial technology and intelligence relationships with Israel. In addition, with Israel being the only true democratic republic in the region not under the boot heel of islamist ideology, we share common ideological goals.

It's no coincidence that the US, militarily the most powerful the world has ever known, has historically been ultimate guarantor of Israel’s survival, nor that Israel has provided valuable intelligence about the threats the US has striven to contain and combat. The United States and Israel have closer, more vital ties to one another's well-being than two nations not bound to one another by a formal treaty have ever had.

What strategic interest, bankrupting our nation with losing wars in the ME and Afghanistan?

Losing the war in Afghanistan is fully the result of not fighting a war with the end goal of winning in spite of how ugly waging a war may be.