Man w/ concealed carry (CCW) intervenes in domestic dispute

He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.
He took a foolish risk and died. Calling a cowboy and Rambo says more about you than about him.
No it says more about him. It says that he is dumb for starters and not too bright to finish it up.
People make mistakes and errors in judgement all the time and many pay for it with their lives

Some have the intention of doing the right thing some don't.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.
He took a foolish risk and died. Calling a cowboy and Rambo says more about you than about him.
No it says more about him. It says that he is dumb for starters and not too bright to finish it up.
People make mistakes and errors in judgement all the time and many pay for it with their lives

Some have the intention of doing the right thing some don't.
That doesnt change the fact that at best he is stupid for going to his car and getting his gun in an attempt to stop a guy from leaving that just shot another person.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.
He took a foolish risk and died. Calling a cowboy and Rambo says more about you than about him.
No it says more about him. It says that he is dumb for starters and not too bright to finish it up.
Wrong. He's dead because he wanted to help someone and didn't think it through before acting. Calling him dumb only shows your lack of empathy and nastiness.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.
He took a foolish risk and died. Calling a cowboy and Rambo says more about you than about him.
No it says more about him. It says that he is dumb for starters and not too bright to finish it up.
Wrong. He's dead because he wanted to help someone and didn't think it through before acting. Calling him dumb only shows your lack of empathy and nastiness.
Youre wrong. If he wanted to help someone he should have shot the guy before he shot the woman. Instead of helping the woman he decided he wanted to be Rambo. He was a Darwin award winner.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.
He took a foolish risk and died. Calling a cowboy and Rambo says more about you than about him.
No it says more about him. It says that he is dumb for starters and not too bright to finish it up.
People make mistakes and errors in judgement all the time and many pay for it with their lives

Some have the intention of doing the right thing some don't.
That doesnt change the fact that at best he is stupid for going to his car and getting his gun in an attempt to stop a guy from leaving that just shot another person.
I don't disagree with you in fact my earlier post said the same thing. It was an act with good intentions and he paid for it with his life. Better than getting killed playing chicken with a train I guess
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.

Obviously the guy made a bad choice. Making light of it to score some points on a message board is the sign of an idiot.
How does one score points on the internet and why do you think thats my motive?

Well, I mean nice of you to self identify as an idiot I suppose, but I wasn't talking specifically TO you.
I didnt self ID as an idiot. You implied i was. I disagree. Yes you were talking specifically to me. You responded to my post and didnt mention anyone else. Are you playing dumb now?

Well, allow me to clear something up for you. If I specifically mean YOU, I will post your name.
 
No he wasnt trying to help. He was trying to be a cowboy and he got his ass killed. The guy was leaving and instead of calling the police he decided he was going to be Rambo and go get his gun to keep the guy there where he was still a threat.

Obviously the guy made a bad choice. Making light of it to score some points on a message board is the sign of an idiot.
How does one score points on the internet and why do you think thats my motive?

Well, I mean nice of you to self identify as an idiot I suppose, but I wasn't talking specifically TO you.
I didnt self ID as an idiot. You implied i was. I disagree. Yes you were talking specifically to me. You responded to my post and didnt mention anyone else. Are you playing dumb now?

Well, allow me to clear something up for you. If I specifically mean YOU, I will post your name.
Too late. You replied to my post. Obviously you were speaking to me just like I am speaking to you without using your name. I dont believe you for a minute when you claim you were not talking to me so stop trying to convince me.
 
Obviously the guy made a bad choice. Making light of it to score some points on a message board is the sign of an idiot.
How does one score points on the internet and why do you think thats my motive?

Well, I mean nice of you to self identify as an idiot I suppose, but I wasn't talking specifically TO you.
I didnt self ID as an idiot. You implied i was. I disagree. Yes you were talking specifically to me. You responded to my post and didnt mention anyone else. Are you playing dumb now?

Well, allow me to clear something up for you. If I specifically mean YOU, I will post your name.
Too late. You replied to my post. Obviously you were speaking to me. I dont believe you for a minute when you claim you were not talking to me so stop trying to convince me.


LOL okay

Then have a nice day little fellar.
 
How does one score points on the internet and why do you think thats my motive?

Well, I mean nice of you to self identify as an idiot I suppose, but I wasn't talking specifically TO you.
I didnt self ID as an idiot. You implied i was. I disagree. Yes you were talking specifically to me. You responded to my post and didnt mention anyone else. Are you playing dumb now?

Well, allow me to clear something up for you. If I specifically mean YOU, I will post your name.
Too late. You replied to my post. Obviously you were speaking to me. I dont believe you for a minute when you claim you were not talking to me so stop trying to convince me.


LOL okay

Then have a nice day little fellar.
i will little boy.
 
I thought that a good guy with a gun would always stop a bad guy with a gun.

At least, that's what the NRA keeps saying. Guess it wasn't true in this case.


actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
 
I thought that a good guy with a gun would always stop a bad guy with a gun.

At least, that's what the NRA keeps saying. Guess it wasn't true in this case.


actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....
 
I thought that a good guy with a gun would always stop a bad guy with a gun.

At least, that's what the NRA keeps saying. Guess it wasn't true in this case.


actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....


You keep saying that.....but why is it only the gun grabbers like you talk about guns and shootings in a sexual way?
 
I thought that a good guy with a gun would always stop a bad guy with a gun.

At least, that's what the NRA keeps saying. Guess it wasn't true in this case.


actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....


You keep saying that.....but why is it only the gun grabbers like you talk about guns and shootings in a sexual way?
As I've told you several times, I am not a gun-grabber. I support the 2nd Amendment and have several guns myself. I just don't consider them sexual objects to get off on when finding stories about shootings. That's all you. Your creepy obsession makes supporters of the 2nd Amendment such as myself look unhinged.
 
actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....


You keep saying that.....but why is it only the gun grabbers like you talk about guns and shootings in a sexual way?
As I've told you several times, I am not a gun-grabber. I support the 2nd Amendment and have several guns myself. I just don't consider them sexual objects to get off on when finding stories about shootings. That's all you.


yeah...the only ones talking about tingles and men's sex organs are you and joe.....you don't know each other do you......?
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
If the bad guy hadn't already been in his truck and leaving, I would agree it was a tragedy. He WAS trying to help, but he was also playing cop, and that's dangerous--as any cop will tell you. He could have taken the guy's plate # and waited for the police to catch the guy.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
If the bad guy hadn't already been in his truck and leaving, I would agree it was a tragedy. He WAS trying to help, but he was also playing cop, and that's dangerous--as any cop will tell you. He could have taken the guy's plate # and waited for the police to catch the guy.


That is the best way to handle this......and I would have to say you have to think really hard about wether to intervene even if another life is being threatened...as soon as you choose to step in, your life changes....especially if you are using a gun....you have just made the choice that you are willing to use lethal force.....and that is a line that you can't step back from if you pull that trigger.
 
actually....I would like to see where the NRA has ever said that.....please...show us that link...it would be entertaining and informative.....

Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....


You keep saying that.....but why is it only the gun grabbers like you talk about guns and shootings in a sexual way?
As I've told you several times, I am not a gun-grabber. I support the 2nd Amendment and have several guns myself. I just don't consider them sexual objects to get off on when finding stories about shootings. That's all you. Your creepy obsession makes supporters of the 2nd Amendment such as myself look unhinged.
Dotcom seems to be in a contest with 2AGuy, keeping up one-for-one with all the Gun Guy's posts of a hero gun incident. One shot at a time. Go Dotcom! Accidents happen and bad guys win sometimes.
 
He was trying to help and was killed. It is a tragedy.

I think it stinks that some people are making snarky remarks about this.
If the bad guy hadn't already been in his truck and leaving, I would agree it was a tragedy. He WAS trying to help, but he was also playing cop, and that's dangerous--as any cop will tell you. He could have taken the guy's plate # and waited for the police to catch the guy.


That is the best way to handle this......and I would have to say you have to think really hard about wether to intervene even if another life is being threatened...as soon as you choose to step in, your life changes....especially if you are using a gun....you have just made the choice that you are willing to use lethal force.....and that is a line that you can't step back from if you pull that trigger.
Well said.
 
Do you always let them bait you into this kinda debate? It's unnecessary, you no more need to prove you need , nor justify your use of your 2nd Amendment rights, than they do their 4th Amendment rights, just as an example.


I agree....and as I always point out....I engage them because helps me put my thoughts together, helps me organize the actual facts and statistics, and helps me find information.....I have learned so much from trying to keep up with the emotional, irrational arguments they keep putting out......since they have to considering the facts and statistics show they are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate.

However......you and I agree.....we have a right to use guns for self defense and that right is is natural, and is not granted by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights...

there is one problem.....they use emotion and lies, and myths to push out their side of the discussion.....and they target them at people who don't really pay attention to the reality of guns in America.....but who vote....then these people who are unaware of the truth, hear the last thing a left wing gun grabber politician says...."We need universal background checks...." they hear that, it sounds good and they vote for the idiot...and the next thing you know the next gun, bullet and piece of equipment is fined, taxed or regulated away......

I post mostly for those who are casual readers....this way someone might actually see the truth.....you have to fight the left wing gun grabbers whenever you can...otherwise, one day, the 2nd Amendment will exist on paper only....
What a missed opportunity for you get get a tingly, if only this had happened in England, or Australia....


You keep saying that.....but why is it only the gun grabbers like you talk about guns and shootings in a sexual way?
As I've told you several times, I am not a gun-grabber. I support the 2nd Amendment and have several guns myself. I just don't consider them sexual objects to get off on when finding stories about shootings. That's all you. Your creepy obsession makes supporters of the 2nd Amendment such as myself look unhinged.
Dotcom seems to be in a contest with 2AGuy, keeping up one-for-one with all the Gun Guy's posts of a hero gun incident. One shot at a time. Go Dotcom! Accidents happen and bad guys win sometimes.


As my old Junior High Math Teacher would say to us....."you have a keen grasp of the obvious."
 

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