silly question i suppose but are there choices in most people's 401k's to choose an investment that is not invested in the stock market? like, can you purchase certificate of deposits, that are safe, with 401k money/company match money?
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That big question has a lot of little questions inside of it:The big question: When will the small investors inject new money into the market?
At this point it is just one big retreat. My upside has to be much better than the down before I'll budge. I'm thinking that is around 8800.
At this point a Gold bull market in the euro is causing a real shortage to develop in anti-inflation investments and driving up the costs of US imports. So why buy equities?
More people are running out of UE bennies and going homeless. How can they add to consumption?
More state and local governments are teetering on the edge of insolvency/bankruptcy every week. The muni-treasury hedge of a few months back has destroyed a huge chunk of the nation's private capital so where will the capital come from?
More information about missteps by the current administration's economic team going as far back as to when they were part of the Clinton economic team liquidating Long Term Capital Management keeps dribbling out. Two memoirs of former Bear Strearns CEOs are supposed to come out later this year. So, if evidence is presented that most of the current administration's economic team knew in 1998 that a real estate meltdown was building and did nothing ("House of Cards" William Cohan) and that is what is going to be claimed who will trust this administration not to screw the pooch again? Bear Stearns stayed out of the LTCM bailout entirely and Lehman contributed only a third as much other participants. How come Geithner and Summers didn't figure out that Bear and Lehman were sending out signals of pending insolvency? A totally unfair question I will grant you but it will be asked.
With that much bad news in the pipeline who, besides insiders, has enough information to take unhedged long positions? Where is a surefire bottom above 1200 DJIA? Why is anyone going to buy into all of the recovery hype?
silly question i suppose but are there choices in most people's 401k's to choose an investment that is not invested in the stock market? like, can you purchase certificate of deposits, that are safe, with 401k money/company match money?
Well it depends on the company plan, the less options the less it costs the company to offer the plan.silly question i suppose but are there choices in most people's 401k's to choose an investment that is not invested in the stock market? like, can you purchase certificate of deposits, that are safe, with 401k money/company match money?
Not silly at all.
You can use your 401k to invest in a very wide range of things. That includes gold and real estate, as well as CDs and bonds.
Bullshit.That big question has a lot of little questions inside of it:The big question: When will the small investors inject new money into the market?
At this point it is just one big retreat. My upside has to be much better than the down before I'll budge. I'm thinking that is around 8800.
At this point a Gold bull market in the euro is causing a real shortage to develop in anti-inflation investments and driving up the costs of US imports. So why buy equities?
More people are running out of UE bennies and going homeless. How can they add to consumption?
More state and local governments are teetering on the edge of insolvency/bankruptcy every week. The muni-treasury hedge of a few months back has destroyed a huge chunk of the nation's private capital so where will the capital come from?
More information about missteps by the current administration's economic team going as far back as to when they were part of the Clinton economic team liquidating Long Term Capital Management keeps dribbling out. Two memoirs of former Bear Strearns CEOs are supposed to come out later this year. So, if evidence is presented that most of the current administration's economic team knew in 1998 that a real estate meltdown was building and did nothing ("House of Cards" William Cohan) and that is what is going to be claimed who will trust this administration not to screw the pooch again? Bear Stearns stayed out of the LTCM bailout entirely and Lehman contributed only a third as much other participants. How come Geithner and Summers didn't figure out that Bear and Lehman were sending out signals of pending insolvency? A totally unfair question I will grant you but it will be asked.
With that much bad news in the pipeline who, besides insiders, has enough information to take unhedged long positions? Where is a surefire bottom above 1200 DJIA? Why is anyone going to buy into all of the recovery hype?
The Wall Streeters will not let the market fall too far. It isn't in their best interests. The market is totally rigged at this point. Misleading corporate and government reporting and on and on....
Bullshit.That big question has a lot of little questions inside of it:
At this point a Gold bull market in the euro is causing a real shortage to develop in anti-inflation investments and driving up the costs of US imports. So why buy equities?
More people are running out of UE bennies and going homeless. How can they add to consumption?
More state and local governments are teetering on the edge of insolvency/bankruptcy every week. The muni-treasury hedge of a few months back has destroyed a huge chunk of the nation's private capital so where will the capital come from?
More information about missteps by the current administration's economic team going as far back as to when they were part of the Clinton economic team liquidating Long Term Capital Management keeps dribbling out. Two memoirs of former Bear Strearns CEOs are supposed to come out later this year. So, if evidence is presented that most of the current administration's economic team knew in 1998 that a real estate meltdown was building and did nothing ("House of Cards" William Cohan) and that is what is going to be claimed who will trust this administration not to screw the pooch again? Bear Stearns stayed out of the LTCM bailout entirely and Lehman contributed only a third as much other participants. How come Geithner and Summers didn't figure out that Bear and Lehman were sending out signals of pending insolvency? A totally unfair question I will grant you but it will be asked.
With that much bad news in the pipeline who, besides insiders, has enough information to take unhedged long positions? Where is a surefire bottom above 1200 DJIA? Why is anyone going to buy into all of the recovery hype?
The Wall Streeters will not let the market fall too far. It isn't in their best interests. The market is totally rigged at this point. Misleading corporate and government reporting and on and on....
The "wall streeters" also make their money on shorts. The market can rise or fall and the "wall streeters" will be just fine.
Bullshit.The Wall Streeters will not let the market fall too far. It isn't in their best interests. The market is totally rigged at this point. Misleading corporate and government reporting and on and on....
The "wall streeters" also make their money on shorts. The market can rise or fall and the "wall streeters" will be just fine.
They make money on the volitility, so a continued drop of the down to 1200 DJIA nature would not be helpful. Big slide followed by a nice jump works much better.
Bullshit.
The "wall streeters" also make their money on shorts. The market can rise or fall and the "wall streeters" will be just fine.
They make money on the volitility, so a continued drop of the down to 1200 DJIA nature would not be helpful. Big slide followed by a nice jump works much better.
You don't understand how the markets work apparently. If you have heavy short positions, nothing could be better for your upside than a continued drop in the markets.
They make money on the volitility, so a continued drop of the down to 1200 DJIA nature would not be helpful. Big slide followed by a nice jump works much better.
You don't understand how the markets work apparently. If you have heavy short positions, nothing could be better for your upside than a continued drop in the markets.
I understand markets well enough to know that I can make much more money on the swings than just a massive short.
Where is the bottom on the current market? With so much uncertainty out there it doesn't make sense to be in anything but cash right now. The downside potential is enormous, with sovereign debt default, municipal defaults, and bad gov't policy just around the corner.
Prices on stocks have come down but I am thinking they will need to go further to make up for all the risks.
Any thoughts?
Where is the bottom on the current market? With so much uncertainty out there it doesn't make sense to be in anything but cash right now. The downside potential is enormous, with sovereign debt default, municipal defaults, and bad gov't policy just around the corner.
Prices on stocks have come down but I am thinking they will need to go further to make up for all the risks.
Any thoughts?
I guess you'll miss the bottom even if you try hard. Current market can be in "little correction", which was obvious, when Dow hit 11,000. I expect Dow to rise "sometimes in the near future" and dollar to strenghten against euro.
Where is the bottom on the current market? With so much uncertainty out there it doesn't make sense to be in anything but cash right now. The downside potential is enormous, with sovereign debt default, municipal defaults, and bad gov't policy just around the corner.
Prices on stocks have come down but I am thinking they will need to go further to make up for all the risks.
Any thoughts?
I guess you'll miss the bottom even if you try hard. Current market can be in "little correction", which was obvious, when Dow hit 11,000. I expect Dow to rise "sometimes in the near future" and dollar to strenghten against euro.
I expect I will sleep with super models.
What makes you think this?
Today's action was a great illustration of bear market action.
We opened strong and sold into the close to take us negative for the day. This tells me there is more downside to come.
We have had many days like today over the past month.
Oh Learned Man of the Sacred Scrolls, I feel that the powers that be will try to put in a bottom here just to lure more fools into the market. We could very easily see a 1000 point improvement over the next few weeks. But then what?Today's action was a great illustration of bear market action.
We opened strong and sold into the close to take us negative for the day. This tells me there is more downside to come.
We have had many days like today over the past month.
Yes. Maybe short covering in the morning followed by fundamentals. Who knows? I know there is no reason to buy and every reason to sell right now.
The selling late in the day is characteristic of the Goldman Sachs Machine Trading program. IF Goldman is satisfied that they have lowered the market as far as they can, then and only then will we see a rally.Today's action was a great illustration of bear market action.
We opened strong and sold into the close to take us negative for the day. This tells me there is more downside to come.
We have had many days like today over the past month.
Market Bottom? Where is the bottom on the current market? With so much uncertainty out there it doesn't make sense to be in anything but cash right now. The downside potential is enormous, with sovereign debt default, municipal defaults, and bad gov't policy just around the corner.
Prices on stocks have come down but I am thinking they will need to go further to make up for all the risks.
Any thoughts?