Masculinity on the Decline

[there4eyeM]

A lot of bearded men demonstrated against the Vietnam war. That was patriotic, as the whole affair was a disaster for America and should never have happened. Somehow, that was judged by 'non-liberals' as 'liberal' and unpatriotic.

Blame that war on John F Kennedy who was banging Marylyn Monroe. Seems that those liberals that get in trouble sexually, have to start some shit to divert the issue away from his womanizing with someone other than their wives. There were real men who had to go to that war, then there were sissy, pansy ass liberals who burned their draft card. William Jefferson Clinton became ..... Thanks dumbass liberals for that one...

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Blame can as much be put on North Vietnam and the Viet Cong for the drawn out American involvement in their country. They were the big losers in that war. Stupidity reigned on both sides. The V.C. and N.V.A., especially after Tet, should have called a truce, signed some kind of treaty, laid low two years until the Yankees got bored and went home, then take over the country as the finally did, anyway.
The war wasn't Kennedy's fault, and he certainly didn't help things, either. His two successors both had the proverbial wives who always make love from on top. It was all wrong, what America did to Vietnam and to itself. Certain elements played the population to put on a show of force against 'Communism'. Youth was played for pawns. Russia and China profited politically from the 'struggle', watching American might and prestige getting ground down. A lot of otherwise fine young men, and not a few women, died for the inhuman decisions of their 'leaders'.

Blaming Vietnam for American involvement in their country is ridiculous. There never was a North or South Vietnam in reality. Vietnam was taken over by the Vietnamese, not the Americans or the French and these people kicked the Chinese out of their country more than once. Who were the losers in that war? The country who gave up their imperialistic desires. We dropped more bombs on the north than we dropped on Germany in WW2 and they weren`t the slightest bit impressed. The VC built fake tanks out of cardboard and sprinkled them liberally on hundreds of miles of the Ho Chi Minh trail and we spent millions blowing those cardboard tanks to bits. The North and the VC were big losers in that war? Who went home after pissing away 50,000 lives and thousands more wounded? We should have been paying reparations for this criminal act.

Yes, the U.S. lost tens of thousands. It lost great amounts of treasure. It lost enormous amounts of diplomatic currency, prestige and respect. But Vietnam lost millions, had their infrastructure devastated, suffered penury, pain and loss of family. They lost a lot more than the U.S., and all they got was their own country back.

You ignore what I said about their achieving their ends a lot earlier and a lot easier. You ignore as well that it was stated we can as much blame, not have to or mostly. Admit at least they did not play their cards really to their best advantage.

How they played their cards is of no concern to us. We went where we weren`t wanted or needed and were sent packing just like we did in Iraq. Ho Chi Minh and General Giap said the guerilla war would go on forever or until Americans tired of being bled physically and financially. If they had to send 5 American bodies home every week for a hundred years that`s what they would do. They weren`t going to be dominated by their long time enemy the Chinese nor did they want to become a French or American lackey country. No, they should not have called a truce after TET and showed the U.S. they were having second thoughts about surrendering. They never showed weakness but they did show determination. No western power could ever win a war of attrition in Asia. I`m pretty sure that it took them a couple hundred years to expel the Chinese so as far as achieving their goal sooner, that means absolutely nothing to the patient people of the East.

By my standards that attitude toward existence is abhorrent. It doesn't differ from how things effectively work in the occident, I know, but it certainly is not superior and can give no lessons.
They were mistaken to sacrifice so many young lives for nothing. If pride was all the reason, it is of the lowest order of human action, for pride is nothing.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Men should be men.

Be leaders in their home, and love their wife and children more than themselves.
You can be a leader and not a dictator. Men need to be the ultimate "servant leader" to their families. Sacrificing their own wants/needs for their family - out of love and dedication. If it's done with resentment, you don't truly love your family.

Like William Jefferson Clinton(I did not have sexual relations with that woman) who told us all, while wagging his finger, that he didn't have sex or the word "is"? We see John Edwards, screwing around while his wife was dying of cancer.
Arnold Swartzenager being part of the John Kennedy family by cheating on his wife having a bastard son who looks like him.
Anthony(Carlos Danger) sexting other woman while his wife was no 1 aid to Bill Clintons wife.
These are just a few examples of the deviancy of the liberals, who then point to a Republican Governor who went to Brazil and fell in love with a latino, and they called him a hypocrite, while turning a blind eye on their own.
This is why the US citizen is tired of the "same old shit, different day" attitudes of the Republicrats and Demicans who have ruined this country and are leading US down the toilet. Liberalism is like a cancer and must be cut out of society before it destroys that society.

By the way I am raising very large dogs for later on....

 

[Asclepias]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

 

[Bonzi]

Like it or not, you are role models - men - and especially those in the spotlight.

Media and other "sources" tell us we need more that just a job, wife and kids. You can find joy and excitement in that.
But you have to work at it.

Work.

 

[Asclepias]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

LOL true, but can you imagine today's college age "men" being asked to storm the beach at Normandy, for example?

They would be just as afraid as the guys that did storm the beach at normandy.

 

[Asclepias]

It's definitely on the decline all over the western world.
We've allowed ourselves to be feminized, at least liberals have.

You were right the first time when you included yourself as being feminized.

 

[percysunshine]

Men should be men.

Be leaders in their home, and love their wife and children more than themselves.
You can be a leader and not a dictator. Men need to be the ultimate "servant leader" to their families. Sacrificing their own wants/needs for their family - out of love and dedication. If it's done with resentment, you don't truly love your family.

I like the line where he says "we're talking about a man here, right?"... hilarious!
I don't care about that other stuff, just loving your wife/kids enough to happily sacrifice selfish non essential needs is enough

And here I thought I was posting on the US Massage board.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

Funny how a liberal confuses NATURE, with some social construct(like transgender). ROTFLMAO. Alpha males are dads and the sons grow up to be like them, when the time comes for the sons to leave the nest, then they become Alpha males. Been that way for ever, but this cant be in liberal la la land, as the woman is the queen bee and their men must be pansies. That is why Bill Clinton put the Cuban in Monica, Carlos Danger sexted, and the liberals and Tiger Woods had an iron used on his skull. Liberal woman are the most miserable women.

 

[Asclepias]

Men should be men.

Be leaders in their home, and love their wife and children more than themselves.
You can be a leader and not a dictator. Men need to be the ultimate "servant leader" to their families. Sacrificing their own wants/needs for their family - out of love and dedication. If it's done with resentment, you don't truly love your family.

I would agree with this. However I think you need to add protector and co-teacher.

 

[mdk]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

LOL true, but can you imagine today's college age "men" being asked to storm the beach at Normandy, for example?

Sure. They would be fools if they weren't as afraid as the men that did land on the beaches during D-Day.

 

[Asclepias]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

Funny how a liberal confuses NATURE, with some social construct(like transgender). ROTFLMAO. Alpha males are dads and the sons grow up to be like them, when the time comes for the sons to leave the nest, then they become Alpha males. Been that way for ever, but this cant be in liberal la la land, as the woman is the queen bee and their men must be pansies. That is why Bill Clinton put the Cuban in Monica, Carlos Danger sexted, and the liberals and Tiger Woods had an iron used on his skull. Liberal woman are the most miserable women.

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Funny with how a conservatives confuses being a man with beating their wives. No dummy. All sons dont grow up to be like their fathers. Only an idiot would make that claim. A alpha male is someone that respects what his woman brings to the table and works with her to make the family unit work correctly.

 

[Compost]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

If I'm confused about anything, it is about why you are answering a question I asked there4eyeM.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

LOL true, but can you imagine today's college age "men" being asked to storm the beach at Normandy, for example?

They would be just as afraid as the guys that did storm the beach at normandy.

Be pretty hard for them to put down their I pads and I phones, carry the 100lb pack and gun while dodging bullets flying from the machine guns of the Democratic Socialist Workers Party. Funny how those evil Socialists were shooting at the young boys of the US, who just wanted to bring peace to the world. Why do socialists always want to try to take over the world and kill other peoples children?

 

[Asclepias]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

If I'm confused about anything, it is about why you are answering a question I directed at there4eyeM.

Because I felt like it. Any other silly questions?

 

[Asclepias]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

LOL true, but can you imagine today's college age "men" being asked to storm the beach at Normandy, for example?

They would be just as afraid as the guys that did storm the beach at normandy.

Be pretty hard for them to put down their I pads and I phones, carry the 100lb pack and gun while dodging bullets flying from the machine guns of the Democratic Socialist Workers Party. Funny how those evil Socialists were shooting at the young boys of the US, who just wanted to bring peace to the world. Why do socialists always want to try to take over the world and kill other peoples children?

Obviously you have never served in the military if you think they would be carrying their iphones and ipads into combat.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

Funny how a liberal confuses NATURE, with some social construct(like transgender). ROTFLMAO. Alpha males are dads and the sons grow up to be like them, when the time comes for the sons to leave the nest, then they become Alpha males. Been that way for ever, but this cant be in liberal la la land, as the woman is the queen bee and their men must be pansies. That is why Bill Clinton put the Cuban in Monica, Carlos Danger sexted, and the liberals and Tiger Woods had an iron used on his skull. Liberal woman are the most miserable women.

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Funny with how a conservatives confuses being a man with beating their wives. No dummy. All sons dont grow up to be like their fathers. Only an idiot would make that claim. A alpha male is someone that respects what his woman brings to the table and works with her to make the family unit work correctly.

Your right a liberal would beat his wife, cheat on that wife, or even kill that wife, while a conservative will cherish that wife till the end of time. Keep it going Ass clepias, you are proving the point about liberalism being a cancer.

 

[Asclepias]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

Funny how a liberal confuses NATURE, with some social construct(like transgender). ROTFLMAO. Alpha males are dads and the sons grow up to be like them, when the time comes for the sons to leave the nest, then they become Alpha males. Been that way for ever, but this cant be in liberal la la land, as the woman is the queen bee and their men must be pansies. That is why Bill Clinton put the Cuban in Monica, Carlos Danger sexted, and the liberals and Tiger Woods had an iron used on his skull. Liberal woman are the most miserable women.

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Funny with how a conservatives confuses being a man with beating their wives. No dummy. All sons dont grow up to be like their fathers. Only an idiot would make that claim. A alpha male is someone that respects what his woman brings to the table and works with her to make the family unit work correctly.

Your right a liberal would beat his wife, cheat on that wife, or even kill that wife, while a conservative will cherish that wife till the end of time. Keep it going Ass clepias, you are proving the point about liberalism being a cancer.

Obviously you read about as well as you spell. I said conservatives believe masculinity consists of beating their wives.

 

[Compost]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

If I'm confused about anything, it is about why you are answering a question I directed at there4eyeM.

Because I felt like it. Any other silly questions?

Any more silly answers?

 

[Asclepias]

Seeing how men have been resoundingly responsible for the greater part of social ills throughout history, a thorough revision of what being human and male is more than overdue. That may or may not have anything to do with 'masculinity'.
The man who has doubts about his masculinity should look into it.

First you say men have cause most social ills, then you say it may or may not have anything to do with masculinity. Your last line says nothing. Could you expand on your remarks, please?

What exactly are you confused about? Masculinity is a social construct. We cant tell if men have messed up just because they are male or because they have an archaic notion of what masculinity is.

If I'm confused about anything, it is about why you are answering a question I directed at there4eyeM.

Because I felt like it. Any other silly questions?

Any more silly answers?

Depends on if you have any more dumb questions trying to deflect from the issue..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Older people think the younger generation is less masculine then their generation!? A thought that is as old as the hills.

LOL true, but can you imagine today's college age "men" being asked to storm the beach at Normandy, for example?

They would be just as afraid as the guys that did storm the beach at normandy.

Be pretty hard for them to put down their I pads and I phones, carry the 100lb pack and gun while dodging bullets flying from the machine guns of the Democratic Socialist Workers Party. Funny how those evil Socialists were shooting at the young boys of the US, who just wanted to bring peace to the world. Why do socialists always want to try to take over the world and kill other peoples children?

Obviously you have never served in the military if you think they would be carrying their iphones and ipads into combat.

Yes I have been in the military but since you are as stupid as you keep proving, it is sarcasm pointing out that todays liberal man, just cant get his face out of his electronics.