Maskers gone wild

[WEATHER53]

The lack of courage of their own convictions is so evident with their need to force everyone else into compliance in order to FEEL validated.
Weak people dictating to All Americans is a bad plan

 

[Coyote]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

Mask are how Democrats cause covid outbreaks. People wear the mask then touch infected surfaces, then touch their mask. Then breath in virus all day along with other germs.

Haha, yeah man great thinking. Amazing how doctors haven’t figured that out yet. You should go on tour and spread your findings to the world!!

You're an idiot. Doctors do know. They said as much when this all began. Nobody is using mask correctly. i hope you reuse your mask everyday and touch it all the time.

Yep. Masks are great in the OR because they prevent sweat, hair, bacteria from dropping into an open field which could be deadly. Viruses....nope.

Really? So tell me, how do doctors and nurses treat Covid patients without getting infected?

Many of them do get infected. I know several doctors and nurses that have gotten infected. Most don't because of their immune system.

Those that don’t, don‘t because of tbe precautions they take like masks. Not immune system. It is a NOVEL virus, which means the human immune has not encountered it before and lacks tbe antibodies.

Wrong.
Novel means a hybrid between 2 very old viruses, like a cross between 2 dog breeds.
It is not really new at all, and you WILL likely be immune.
There has never been any virus that most people are not already immune to.
Why do you think the majority of those infected are asymptomatic?
It is because they are already inherently immune.
And that seems to also apply to almost all children.

And by the way, no one normally has antibodies ahead of time.
You body makes them after the fact, when exosomes have communicated a threat.
The B-cells and T-cells that have memory are not the antibodies themselves.
The difference is the B-cells and T-cells can last over 50 years, but antibodies never last more than a month.

I don’t know where you get that definition of novel from, here is where I got it:


What is a novel coronavirus?

A novel coronavirus is a new coronavirus that has not been previously identified. The virus causing coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), is not the same as the coronaviruses that commonly circulate among humans and cause mild illness, like the common cold.Sep 1, 2020

Mild cases occur not because a person is already immune, but because their immune systems are more able to fight it off (or not go into overdrive). Also genetics can play a role.

Novel does not mean completely new, but anything slightly new enough to be recognizably different.
This is a coronavirus, so it does not even LOOK new.
Nor can it be genetically very new, because although people often mistakenly call a new variant a mutation, it isn't. A mutation is a random genetic change, and that almost never survives at all. This covid-19 is actually a hybrid, where 2 existing virus species both deposit their RNA into the same nucleus, and they combine. So it is not at all new really, just a combination of 2 really old viruses. This is like the child of 2 parents, and is the combination of the 2. It is different in that it is not either one of the parents, but is not really new because it has nothing the pair of parent did not already collectively have to offer.

And by the way, you clearly do not understand what immunity is. Immunity is NOT magic, It IS where the immune system is more able to fight it off (or not go into overdrive). Anything else would require magic.
For example, many people incorrectly think immunity means you can't get re-infected. That is totally wrong. Being able to prevent reinfection would require magic.

That is the first I've read about Covid-19 being a hybrid.

I've seen no evidence to support it being a hybrid or a combination of two virus. Corona virus are a big family of different species (I'm not sure if species is the right term here). They are usually host specific but occasionally there is a mutation or event that allows a virus to jump to another species. At that point, as I understand the term - it is "novel". That is my understanding of the process.

 

[Coyote]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

My brother agreed with you. He joked about eating in every Chinese restaurant he could find, just to prove the virus was a hoax. He's in the ICU on a respirator right now.

I hope he has a speedy recovery. It took me 11 days to get over it, but I didn't have it that bad. I was just real fatigued and what I would call a really bad cold.

That doesn't seem to be a possibility. They called in his children. Doctors say they just don't expect his heart to take the strain much longer. He has never had heart problems before. Two weeks ago, we were drinking beer and changing the oil in my mother's car.

Damn...I'm so sorry Bulldog....

 

[Coyote]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

Mask are how Democrats cause covid outbreaks. People wear the mask then touch infected surfaces, then touch their mask. Then breath in virus all day along with other germs.

Haha, yeah man great thinking. Amazing how doctors haven’t figured that out yet. You should go on tour and spread your findings to the world!!

You're an idiot. Doctors do know. They said as much when this all began. Nobody is using mask correctly. i hope you reuse your mask everyday and touch it all the time.

Yep. Masks are great in the OR because they prevent sweat, hair, bacteria from dropping into an open field which could be deadly. Viruses....nope.

Really? So tell me, how do doctors and nurses treat Covid patients without getting infected?

Many of them do get infected. I know several doctors and nurses that have gotten infected. Most don't because of their immune system.

Those that don’t, don‘t because of tbe precautions they take like masks. Not immune system. It is a NOVEL virus, which means the human immune has not encountered it before and lacks tbe antibodies.

Wrong.
Novel means a hybrid between 2 very old viruses, like a cross between 2 dog breeds.
It is not really new at all, and you WILL likely be immune.
There has never been any virus that most people are not already immune to.
Why do you think the majority of those infected are asymptomatic?
It is because they are already inherently immune.
And that seems to also apply to almost all children.

And by the way, no one normally has antibodies ahead of time.
You body makes them after the fact, when exosomes have communicated a threat.
The B-cells and T-cells that have memory are not the antibodies themselves.
The difference is the B-cells and T-cells can last over 50 years, but antibodies never last more than a month.

I don’t know where you get that definition of novel from, here is where I got it:


What is a novel coronavirus?

A novel coronavirus is a new coronavirus that has not been previously identified. The virus causing coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), is not the same as the coronaviruses that commonly circulate among humans and cause mild illness, like the common cold.Sep 1, 2020

Mild cases occur not because a person is already immune, but because their immune systems are more able to fight it off (or not go into overdrive). Also genetics can play a role.

Novel does not mean completely new, but anything slightly new enough to be recognizably different.

Agree, but in that process it's mutated into something new, a new "species" that, in this case, the human species has not encountered as it was previously host specific to bats.

This is a coronavirus, so it does not even LOOK new.
Nor can it be genetically very new, because although people often mistakenly call a new variant a mutation, it isn't. A mutation is a random genetic change, and that almost never survives at all. This covid-19 is actually a hybrid, where 2 existing virus species both deposit their RNA into the same nucleus, and they combine. So it is not at all new really, just a combination of 2 really old viruses. This is like the child of 2 parents, and is the combination of the 2. It is different in that it is not either one of the parents, but is not really new because it has nothing the pair of parent did not already collectively have to offer.

Can you link me to the research on this? I have honestly not heard this idea before.

And by the way, you clearly do not understand what immunity is. Immunity is NOT magic, It IS where the immune system is more able to fight it off (or not go into overdrive). Anything else would require magic.
For example, many people incorrectly think immunity means you can't get re-infected. That is totally wrong. Being able to prevent reinfection would require magic.

I agree. And immunity is not permanent either in many cases.

 

[WEATHER53]

The “mutation” frightshit is just like the super spreader bullshit.

 

[Slade3200]

The lack of courage of their own convictions is so evident with their need to force everyone else into compliance in order to FEEL validated.
Weak people dictating to All Americans is a bad plan

The lack of courage comes from those whining like little bitches about wearing a mask and acting safely. Had our country been unified in those efforts we would not be seeing the ongoing shutdowns, deaths and hospital crowdings that we are seeing now.

 

[BULLDOG]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

My brother agreed with you. He joked about eating in every Chinese restaurant he could find, just to prove the virus was a hoax. He's in the ICU on a respirator right now.

I hope he has a speedy recovery. It took me 11 days to get over it, but I didn't have it that bad. I was just real fatigued and what I would call a really bad cold.

That doesn't seem to be a possibility. They called in his children. Doctors say they just don't expect his heart to take the strain much longer. He has never had heart problems before. Two weeks ago, we were drinking beer and changing the oil in my mother's car.

Sorry to hear that, I hope the best for him and you as well. I am truly sorry. My mother, 93, lives with us and only I got the virus. I am still surprised considering how contagious it is.

Thank you for the kind words. He isn't suffering any more. Around 3:15 this afternoon, his fight ended. I'm sure I will experience all the emotions you would expect, but for now, I just feel relieved that he isn't hurting. His brow isn't wrinkled and his jaw isn't clenched any more. I'm grateful for that.

 

[Papageorgio]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

My brother agreed with you. He joked about eating in every Chinese restaurant he could find, just to prove the virus was a hoax. He's in the ICU on a respirator right now.

I hope he has a speedy recovery. It took me 11 days to get over it, but I didn't have it that bad. I was just real fatigued and what I would call a really bad cold.

That doesn't seem to be a possibility. They called in his children. Doctors say they just don't expect his heart to take the strain much longer. He has never had heart problems before. Two weeks ago, we were drinking beer and changing the oil in my mother's car.

Sorry to hear that, I hope the best for him and you as well. I am truly sorry. My mother, 93, lives with us and only I got the virus. I am still surprised considering how contagious it is.

Thank you for the kind words. He isn't suffering any more. Around 3:15 this afternoon, his fight ended. I'm sure I will experience all the emotions you would expect, but for now, I just feel relieved that he isn't hurting. His brow isn't wrinkled and his jaw isn't clenched any more. I'm grateful for that.

I am so sorry for your loss, that can't be easy for you. Please take care of yourself, death of a loved one puts a lot of stress on a person. I know we rarely agree, however I do feel terrible for your loss. Again, take care.

 

[Polishprince]

W

Are people following the mitigation regulations?

They are around here. People are almost universally wearing masks in Walmart, and bars,taverns and cocktail lounges are shuttered.

Nice. Keep up the good work!

It isn't helping, deaths and infections are up- disproving the efficacy of the restrictions.

I don’t think that disproves anything. We know this virus spreads through human contact so if people aren’t distancing, washing and properly masking then it is going to spread. The fact that it’s spiking just tells that people aren’t acting safely. You can have all the laws and restrictions you want but if people don’t follow then it’s not going to be effective

Here, drink some more koolaid.

That’s all you got?! Haha

Simple logic dictates that if you are trying to stop the spread and the procedures that you are using are ineffective, you try something else. You don't try to convince everyone that you have a new set of clothes while you walk around naked. That would be insanity and you and your communist cohorts are insane if you think you are going to force your un American BS on me. Keep your nose right up that lemming's ass in front of you.

The reason why we’ve been so bad at stopping the spread is because of dipshits like yourself and Trump drones fighting tooth and nail against a United effort to practice safety protocols. Yes Dems leaders and liberals also break the rules but at least they are trying to push and support the right kind of messaging and actions. You all that try and push arguments that this thing is a commie hoax or masks don’t work or it’s bio terrorism from China are just straight up retarded

We are not fighting tooth and nail against a united effort to practice safety protocols. We are fighting against a GOVERNMENT OVERREACH to control a free population. If you haven't liked tooth and nail, you're really not going to like the lead injection you'll get if you attempt to infringe on my God-given rights moron. Stay in your own basement and STAY OUT OF MY LIFE.

You’re saying that chicken wire is just as effective as a cloth mask. You’re fighting against the recommended safety practices. That has nothing to do with laws and regulations and government control. You are trying to delegitimize those who are trying to promote safe practices because you’ve made it into a political fight. Had we United with a unified message and effort to distance and wash and mask up and actually followed through with it like a responsible society should be able to do... then there would be no need for lock down and laws and government intervention. But we are a country full of morons as you and you ILK prove on a daily basis

Wrong.
The whole lock down approach does not work, can not work, and has never worked.
What does work is full quarantine with contact tracing, herd immunity, vaccination, variolation, or something like that.
The ONLY time masks are at all useful is for a sneeze or cough because only then is there a projection of virus spores in the saliva droplets of any significant distance.
And that is not only exceedingly rare but I always have seen those wearing masks lifting it for coughs or sneezes.

If you knew anything about epidemiology, you would know that the smallest death toll comes from local burn out of hosts to create local herd immunity, which quickly ends the whole epidemic. So "flattening the curve" to prevent the burn out spike, is murder. It forced the epidemic to become perpetual instead.
That would be like every time Ebola was going to end by host burn out, deliberately providing some new hosts, in order to prevent the Ebola from burning out. It is the stupidest strategy in the world, that can never work.

I disagree with one other thing. Masks aren’t only useful when sneezing and coughing. Normal breathing and speech will project particles. Masks catch some of these particles and limit the distance and amount that are projected. The virus can still be spread but the chances of spread and severity are reduced. That’s a good thing

If masks were that tremendous is stopping viruses, why is the Corona Virus spreading like crazy in places like Europe and California where mask wearing isn't just done, its believed in by the Mask Cultists that predominate in those places?

 

[Slade3200]

W

Are people following the mitigation regulations?

They are around here. People are almost universally wearing masks in Walmart, and bars,taverns and cocktail lounges are shuttered.

Nice. Keep up the good work!

It isn't helping, deaths and infections are up- disproving the efficacy of the restrictions.

I don’t think that disproves anything. We know this virus spreads through human contact so if people aren’t distancing, washing and properly masking then it is going to spread. The fact that it’s spiking just tells that people aren’t acting safely. You can have all the laws and restrictions you want but if people don’t follow then it’s not going to be effective

Here, drink some more koolaid.

That’s all you got?! Haha

Simple logic dictates that if you are trying to stop the spread and the procedures that you are using are ineffective, you try something else. You don't try to convince everyone that you have a new set of clothes while you walk around naked. That would be insanity and you and your communist cohorts are insane if you think you are going to force your un American BS on me. Keep your nose right up that lemming's ass in front of you.

The reason why we’ve been so bad at stopping the spread is because of dipshits like yourself and Trump drones fighting tooth and nail against a United effort to practice safety protocols. Yes Dems leaders and liberals also break the rules but at least they are trying to push and support the right kind of messaging and actions. You all that try and push arguments that this thing is a commie hoax or masks don’t work or it’s bio terrorism from China are just straight up retarded

We are not fighting tooth and nail against a united effort to practice safety protocols. We are fighting against a GOVERNMENT OVERREACH to control a free population. If you haven't liked tooth and nail, you're really not going to like the lead injection you'll get if you attempt to infringe on my God-given rights moron. Stay in your own basement and STAY OUT OF MY LIFE.

You’re saying that chicken wire is just as effective as a cloth mask. You’re fighting against the recommended safety practices. That has nothing to do with laws and regulations and government control. You are trying to delegitimize those who are trying to promote safe practices because you’ve made it into a political fight. Had we United with a unified message and effort to distance and wash and mask up and actually followed through with it like a responsible society should be able to do... then there would be no need for lock down and laws and government intervention. But we are a country full of morons as you and you ILK prove on a daily basis

Wrong.
The whole lock down approach does not work, can not work, and has never worked.
What does work is full quarantine with contact tracing, herd immunity, vaccination, variolation, or something like that.
The ONLY time masks are at all useful is for a sneeze or cough because only then is there a projection of virus spores in the saliva droplets of any significant distance.
And that is not only exceedingly rare but I always have seen those wearing masks lifting it for coughs or sneezes.

If you knew anything about epidemiology, you would know that the smallest death toll comes from local burn out of hosts to create local herd immunity, which quickly ends the whole epidemic. So "flattening the curve" to prevent the burn out spike, is murder. It forced the epidemic to become perpetual instead.
That would be like every time Ebola was going to end by host burn out, deliberately providing some new hosts, in order to prevent the Ebola from burning out. It is the stupidest strategy in the world, that can never work.

I disagree with one other thing. Masks aren’t only useful when sneezing and coughing. Normal breathing and speech will project particles. Masks catch some of these particles and limit the distance and amount that are projected. The virus can still be spread but the chances of spread and severity are reduced. That’s a good thing

If masks were that tremendous is stopping viruses, why is the Corona Virus spreading like crazy in places like Europe and California where mask wearing isn't just done, its believed in by the Mask Cultists that predominate in those places?

Masks are not tremendous. They help a bit and reduce the spread so they should be used when in crowded situations. I live in California for part of the year and if you think it’s a monolith where everybody thinks the same way then you are soarly mistaken. The virus is spiking because of travel, congregating, and people not distancing and wearing masks. It’s a combo of all the above as you well know.

 

[BULLDOG]

I would no be surprised if many people continue wearing masks in public for years to come.

They probably will. I never did start wearing one. No one says anything down here.

My brother agreed with you. He joked about eating in every Chinese restaurant he could find, just to prove the virus was a hoax. He's in the ICU on a respirator right now.

I hope he has a speedy recovery. It took me 11 days to get over it, but I didn't have it that bad. I was just real fatigued and what I would call a really bad cold.

That doesn't seem to be a possibility. They called in his children. Doctors say they just don't expect his heart to take the strain much longer. He has never had heart problems before. Two weeks ago, we were drinking beer and changing the oil in my mother's car.

Sorry to hear that, I hope the best for him and you as well. I am truly sorry. My mother, 93, lives with us and only I got the virus. I am still surprised considering how contagious it is.

Thank you for the kind words. He isn't suffering any more. Around 3:15 this afternoon, his fight ended. I'm sure I will experience all the emotions you would expect, but for now, I just feel relieved that he isn't hurting. His brow isn't wrinkled and his jaw isn't clenched any more. I'm grateful for that.

I am so sorry for your loss, that can't be easy for you. Please take care of yourself, death of a loved one puts a lot of stress on a person. I know we rarely agree, however I do feel terrible for your loss. Again, take care.

Thank you for the kind words. Even with all the arguing and disagreement, we must never ignore the humanity in all of us.

 

[Manonthestreet]

California jogger arrested after allegedly spitting on people (nypost.com)
James Howard, 38, was arrested on Dec. 30 after police in Glendale began receiving reports of a “shirtless male jogger who was spitting on random people outdoors,” police said in a statement.

 

[Concerned American]

W

Are people following the mitigation regulations?

They are around here. People are almost universally wearing masks in Walmart, and bars,taverns and cocktail lounges are shuttered.

Nice. Keep up the good work!

It isn't helping, deaths and infections are up- disproving the efficacy of the restrictions.

I don’t think that disproves anything. We know this virus spreads through human contact so if people aren’t distancing, washing and properly masking then it is going to spread. The fact that it’s spiking just tells that people aren’t acting safely. You can have all the laws and restrictions you want but if people don’t follow then it’s not going to be effective

Here, drink some more koolaid.

That’s all you got?! Haha

Simple logic dictates that if you are trying to stop the spread and the procedures that you are using are ineffective, you try something else. You don't try to convince everyone that you have a new set of clothes while you walk around naked. That would be insanity and you and your communist cohorts are insane if you think you are going to force your un American BS on me. Keep your nose right up that lemming's ass in front of you.

The reason why we’ve been so bad at stopping the spread is because of dipshits like yourself and Trump drones fighting tooth and nail against a United effort to practice safety protocols. Yes Dems leaders and liberals also break the rules but at least they are trying to push and support the right kind of messaging and actions. You all that try and push arguments that this thing is a commie hoax or masks don’t work or it’s bio terrorism from China are just straight up retarded

We are not fighting tooth and nail against a united effort to practice safety protocols. We are fighting against a GOVERNMENT OVERREACH to control a free population. If you haven't liked tooth and nail, you're really not going to like the lead injection you'll get if you attempt to infringe on my God-given rights moron. Stay in your own basement and STAY OUT OF MY LIFE.

You’re saying that chicken wire is just as effective as a cloth mask. You’re fighting against the recommended safety practices. That has nothing to do with laws and regulations and government control. You are trying to delegitimize those who are trying to promote safe practices because you’ve made it into a political fight. Had we United with a unified message and effort to distance and wash and mask up and actually followed through with it like a responsible society should be able to do... then there would be no need for lock down and laws and government intervention. But we are a country full of morons as you and you ILK prove on a daily basis

Wrong.
The whole lock down approach does not work, can not work, and has never worked.
What does work is full quarantine with contact tracing, herd immunity, vaccination, variolation, or something like that.
The ONLY time masks are at all useful is for a sneeze or cough because only then is there a projection of virus spores in the saliva droplets of any significant distance.
And that is not only exceedingly rare but I always have seen those wearing masks lifting it for coughs or sneezes.

If you knew anything about epidemiology, you would know that the smallest death toll comes from local burn out of hosts to create local herd immunity, which quickly ends the whole epidemic. So "flattening the curve" to prevent the burn out spike, is murder. It forced the epidemic to become perpetual instead.
That would be like every time Ebola was going to end by host burn out, deliberately providing some new hosts, in order to prevent the Ebola from burning out. It is the stupidest strategy in the world, that can never work.

I disagree with one other thing. Masks aren’t only useful when sneezing and coughing. Normal breathing and speech will project particles. Masks catch some of these particles and limit the distance and amount that are projected. The virus can still be spread but the chances of spread and severity are reduced. That’s a good thing

If masks were that tremendous is stopping viruses, why is the Corona Virus spreading like crazy in places like Europe and California where mask wearing isn't just done, its believed in by the Mask Cultists that predominate in those places?

Yeah all this push for masks that don't work, when something as simple as having a fresh disposable glove at the gas pump would really be useful. I am closely acquainted with a covid-19 infectee. He has spent the last 9 months isolated in the country with only trips to get groceries. He filled his tank before Christmas and that has been the only contact he has had outside his house and came up covid positive. He recovered in 10 days from what he described as a minor cold. He is 81 years old with a heart condition.

 

[Slade3200]

W

Are people following the mitigation regulations?

They are around here. People are almost universally wearing masks in Walmart, and bars,taverns and cocktail lounges are shuttered.

Nice. Keep up the good work!

It isn't helping, deaths and infections are up- disproving the efficacy of the restrictions.

I don’t think that disproves anything. We know this virus spreads through human contact so if people aren’t distancing, washing and properly masking then it is going to spread. The fact that it’s spiking just tells that people aren’t acting safely. You can have all the laws and restrictions you want but if people don’t follow then it’s not going to be effective

Here, drink some more koolaid.

That’s all you got?! Haha

Simple logic dictates that if you are trying to stop the spread and the procedures that you are using are ineffective, you try something else. You don't try to convince everyone that you have a new set of clothes while you walk around naked. That would be insanity and you and your communist cohorts are insane if you think you are going to force your un American BS on me. Keep your nose right up that lemming's ass in front of you.

The reason why we’ve been so bad at stopping the spread is because of dipshits like yourself and Trump drones fighting tooth and nail against a United effort to practice safety protocols. Yes Dems leaders and liberals also break the rules but at least they are trying to push and support the right kind of messaging and actions. You all that try and push arguments that this thing is a commie hoax or masks don’t work or it’s bio terrorism from China are just straight up retarded

We are not fighting tooth and nail against a united effort to practice safety protocols. We are fighting against a GOVERNMENT OVERREACH to control a free population. If you haven't liked tooth and nail, you're really not going to like the lead injection you'll get if you attempt to infringe on my God-given rights moron. Stay in your own basement and STAY OUT OF MY LIFE.

You’re saying that chicken wire is just as effective as a cloth mask. You’re fighting against the recommended safety practices. That has nothing to do with laws and regulations and government control. You are trying to delegitimize those who are trying to promote safe practices because you’ve made it into a political fight. Had we United with a unified message and effort to distance and wash and mask up and actually followed through with it like a responsible society should be able to do... then there would be no need for lock down and laws and government intervention. But we are a country full of morons as you and you ILK prove on a daily basis

Wrong.
The whole lock down approach does not work, can not work, and has never worked.
What does work is full quarantine with contact tracing, herd immunity, vaccination, variolation, or something like that.
The ONLY time masks are at all useful is for a sneeze or cough because only then is there a projection of virus spores in the saliva droplets of any significant distance.
And that is not only exceedingly rare but I always have seen those wearing masks lifting it for coughs or sneezes.

If you knew anything about epidemiology, you would know that the smallest death toll comes from local burn out of hosts to create local herd immunity, which quickly ends the whole epidemic. So "flattening the curve" to prevent the burn out spike, is murder. It forced the epidemic to become perpetual instead.
That would be like every time Ebola was going to end by host burn out, deliberately providing some new hosts, in order to prevent the Ebola from burning out. It is the stupidest strategy in the world, that can never work.

I disagree with one other thing. Masks aren’t only useful when sneezing and coughing. Normal breathing and speech will project particles. Masks catch some of these particles and limit the distance and amount that are projected. The virus can still be spread but the chances of spread and severity are reduced. That’s a good thing

If masks were that tremendous is stopping viruses, why is the Corona Virus spreading like crazy in places like Europe and California where mask wearing isn't just done, its believed in by the Mask Cultists that predominate in those places?

Yeah all this push for masks that don't work, when something as simple as having a fresh disposable glove at the gas pump would really be useful. I am closely acquainted with a covid-19 infectee. He has spent the last 9 months isolated in the country with only trips to get groceries. He filled his tank before Christmas and that has been the only contact he has had outside his house and came up covid positive. He recovered in 10 days from what he described as a minor cold. He is 81 years old with a heart condition.

Glad your friend is ok and only got a light exposure!