Mass Killings: The Blame

[impuretrash]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

 

[Rustic]

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

So you think that if this school shooter didn't have access to any guns, he just would have found something better to do? That's like saying a rapist wouldn't have attacked a woman if he didn't have access to condoms.

It's ridiculous to think that an object controls the mind of a sick individual.

Your analogy needs some work. It doesnt make sense.

Basically you’re saying the firearms made him do it, you scared bro?

A voice in his head made him do it. The access to guns made it easy for him. You cannot deny the reality no matter how partisan you are.

Bombs are much more effective, proven in the middle east where they have access to anything they want… Dumbass

 

[PoliticalChic]

"In his address to the nation after the Planned Parenthood attack, Obama claimed: “I say this every time we’ve got one of these mass shootings: This just doesn’t happen in other countries.”

Senator Harry Reid made a similar statement on June 23rd: “The United States is the only advanced country where this type of mass violence occurs. Let’s do something. We can expand, for example, background checks. … We should support not giving guns to people who are mentally ill and felons.”

We prefer not to make purely cross-sectional comparisons, but this claim is simply not true. The data below looks at the period of time from the beginning of the Obama administration in January 2009 until the end of 2015. Mass public shootings – defined as four or more people killed in a public place, and not in the course of committing another crime, and not involving struggles over sovereignty. "
Ibid.

 

[Rustic]

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If you ask me, the way to solve a problem is to look at the common denominator.

No, I don't mean guns as the common denominator, I mean the reason people fly off the handle like this.

It seems to me the state of mind of these killers is rejection. They can't seem to handle it. Getting picked on by other kids, the school throwing them out, being rejected by a girl a boy liked.......rejection.

Shielding our children from embarrassment and rejection starts from young on. Parents read all these psycho babble books about how to raise a kid. We don't say the word "no" to children. Do you know how many times a child hears the word no growing up? We don't hit children, we have time out instead.

Then the kid gets to school, and once again protected from evil rejection. We don't fail children, we give them an E for effort. We don't keep score in our sports games. The losers might develop a complex. We don't allow kids to pick teams either. The last person picked is usually the weakest or sensitive one, and we don't want him to have that experience. We don't hit kids in school, not only might you get sued by the parent, but embarrassing a child in front of his classmates could be devastating. Bullying? We need to make that a national issue.

Okay, so why are these kinds of mass shootings taking place in great upper middle-class or wealthy areas instead of lower income areas? Because lower income children are raised with rejection and embarrassment. Nobody likes rejection, but learning how to live with it is better than not knowing how to.

The problem goes much deeper than guns, and has been in development for decades thanks to liberalism.

Teenagers get rejected in Europe as well. They dont buy a machine gun and shoot up the school. Try again.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

Are you really that stupid? People kill people firearms do not. If people want to kill someone they’re gonna kill someone by whatever means they deem fit.
Human nature has never been good, you fucking dolt. Lol

We neednt make it easy for them. Its easy in the US and not so easy in the first world. The stats bear this out dipshit.

na, People kill people firearms do not

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

There is no left in the US. You have a choice of basically two parties and they are both funded by corporate interests. Where is the left in all of that ?

 

[Rustic]

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

So you think that if this school shooter didn't have access to any guns, he just would have found something better to do? That's like saying a rapist wouldn't have attacked a woman if he didn't have access to condoms.

It's ridiculous to think that an object controls the mind of a sick individual.

Your analogy needs some work. It doesnt make sense.

Basically you’re saying the firearms made him do it, you scared bro?

A voice in his head made him do it. The access to guns made it easy for him. You cannot deny the reality no matter how partisan you are.

"Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe
View attachment 177438

UPDATED: Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe - Crime Prevention Research Center

Yep, European socialism brings out the worst in people

 

[Rustic]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

There is no left in the US. You have a choice of basically two parties and they are both funded by corporate interests. Where is the left in all of that ?

You can’t get any more corrupt than progressives... fact

 

[PoliticalChic]

If you ask me, the way to solve a problem is to look at the common denominator.

No, I don't mean guns as the common denominator, I mean the reason people fly off the handle like this.

It seems to me the state of mind of these killers is rejection. They can't seem to handle it. Getting picked on by other kids, the school throwing them out, being rejected by a girl a boy liked.......rejection.

Shielding our children from embarrassment and rejection starts from young on. Parents read all these psycho babble books about how to raise a kid. We don't say the word "no" to children. Do you know how many times a child hears the word no growing up? We don't hit children, we have time out instead.

Then the kid gets to school, and once again protected from evil rejection. We don't fail children, we give them an E for effort. We don't keep score in our sports games. The losers might develop a complex. We don't allow kids to pick teams either. The last person picked is usually the weakest or sensitive one, and we don't want him to have that experience. We don't hit kids in school, not only might you get sued by the parent, but embarrassing a child in front of his classmates could be devastating. Bullying? We need to make that a national issue.

Okay, so why are these kinds of mass shootings taking place in great upper middle-class or wealthy areas instead of lower income areas? Because lower income children are raised with rejection and embarrassment. Nobody likes rejection, but learning how to live with it is better than not knowing how to.

The problem goes much deeper than guns, and has been in development for decades thanks to liberalism.

Teenagers get rejected in Europe as well. They dont buy a machine gun and shoot up the school. Try again.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

If you ask me, the way to solve a problem is to look at the common denominator.

No, I don't mean guns as the common denominator, I mean the reason people fly off the handle like this.

It seems to me the state of mind of these killers is rejection. They can't seem to handle it. Getting picked on by other kids, the school throwing them out, being rejected by a girl a boy liked.......rejection.

Shielding our children from embarrassment and rejection starts from young on. Parents read all these psycho babble books about how to raise a kid. We don't say the word "no" to children. Do you know how many times a child hears the word no growing up? We don't hit children, we have time out instead.

Then the kid gets to school, and once again protected from evil rejection. We don't fail children, we give them an E for effort. We don't keep score in our sports games. The losers might develop a complex. We don't allow kids to pick teams either. The last person picked is usually the weakest or sensitive one, and we don't want him to have that experience. We don't hit kids in school, not only might you get sued by the parent, but embarrassing a child in front of his classmates could be devastating. Bullying? We need to make that a national issue.

Okay, so why are these kinds of mass shootings taking place in great upper middle-class or wealthy areas instead of lower income areas? Because lower income children are raised with rejection and embarrassment. Nobody likes rejection, but learning how to live with it is better than not knowing how to.

The problem goes much deeper than guns, and has been in development for decades thanks to liberalism.

Teenagers get rejected in Europe as well. They dont buy a machine gun and shoot up the school. Try again.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

There is no left in the US. You have a choice of basically two parties and they are both funded by corporate interests. Where is the left in all of that ?

You can’t get any more corrupt than progressives... fact

Both of your political parties take corruption to a new level. Your version of democracy is a sham.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Teenagers get rejected in Europe as well. They dont buy a machine gun and shoot up the school. Try again.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

Teenagers get rejected in Europe as well. They dont buy a machine gun and shoot up the school. Try again.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So you think that if this school shooter didn't have access to any guns, he just would have found something better to do? That's like saying a rapist wouldn't have attacked a woman if he didn't have access to condoms.

It's ridiculous to think that an object controls the mind of a sick individual.

Your analogy needs some work. It doesnt make sense.

Basically you’re saying the firearms made him do it, you scared bro?

A voice in his head made him do it. The access to guns made it easy for him. You cannot deny the reality no matter how partisan you are.

"Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe
View attachment 177438

UPDATED: Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe - Crime Prevention Research Center

Yep, European socialism brings out the worst in people

It's the chicken and the egg thing.....the worst people are socialists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

I doubt they are raised like our snowflakes, otherwise they would be getting into cars or trucks and mowing school children down.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

 

[Rustic]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

There is no left in the US. You have a choice of basically two parties and they are both funded by corporate interests. Where is the left in all of that ?

You can’t get any more corrupt than progressives... fact

Both of your political parties take corruption to a new level. Your version of democracy is a sham.

We don’t want a shit eating democracy. This has always been supposed to be an republic not a shit eating democracy... lol

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

Nope, they just dont have access to guns. Its not complicated Ray.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

You post selective facts which, on reflection, look ridiculous.

 

[Doc1]

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

You post selective facts which, on reflection, look ridiculous.

Disprove them because frankly you don't have any credibility. Your word (like everyone else's) is shit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. Before Liberals/Democrats controlled what we call ‘the culture,’ we lived “in a time in America when right and wrong was more starkly defined, where expectations about behavior were clear, and wickedness hadn’t been normalized.


Those who have been so busy destroying the moral backstops in our culture won’t want to have this conversation. They’ll do what they do -- mock the truth.

Even thirty years ago, the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints, those leveling commonalities, were the target of a half-century of attack by the freewheeling counterculture that has now become the dominant replacement culture.

The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do. If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.

Culture is a powerful force for good. When good behavior is normalized and deviant destructive behavior is ostracized, shamed, and marginalized, you get more good behavior.” Flashback 30 Years: When Guns Were in Schools ... and Nothing Happened




"...the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries."

David Mamet put it this way:
" This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."


Bolsheviks, Liberals, Socialists....destroyed this.

 

[impuretrash]

There is no left in America.

I've heard this argument before, care to elaborate?

There is no left in the US. You have a choice of basically two parties and they are both funded by corporate interests. Where is the left in all of that ?

No one is immune to the allure of vast amounts of wealth and power. If you think your leftist politicians are incorruptible then it's no wonder you've literally just handed the keys to your once-great civilization to muslim savages.

 

[PoliticalChic]

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

^^^and this right here is what the American left wants no matter how much they lie and pretend otherwise.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

You post selective facts which, on reflection, look ridiculous.

Only when viewed through your prism of mendacity.


You should look up the word 'fact.'

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There is no left in America.

There is no left in America.

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

You post selective facts which, on reflection, look ridiculous.

Disprove them because frankly you don't have any credibility. Your word (like everyone else's) is shit.

And during this so called Golden Age you shot two Kennedys,MLK,Reagan and John Lennon

10. Before Liberals/Democrats controlled what we call ‘the culture,’ we lived “in a time in America when right and wrong was more starkly defined, where expectations about behavior were clear, and wickedness hadn’t been normalized.


Those who have been so busy destroying the moral backstops in our culture won’t want to have this conversation. They’ll do what they do -- mock the truth.

Even thirty years ago, the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints, those leveling commonalities, were the target of a half-century of attack by the freewheeling counterculture that has now become the dominant replacement culture.

The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do. If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.

Culture is a powerful force for good. When good behavior is normalized and deviant destructive behavior is ostracized, shamed, and marginalized, you get more good behavior.” Flashback 30 Years: When Guns Were in Schools ... and Nothing Happened




"...the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries."

David Mamet put it this way:
" This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."


Bolsheviks, Liberals, Socialists....destroyed this.

And during this so called Golden Age you shot two Kennedys,MLK,Reagan and John Lennon. America was born out of gun violence, the legacy continues to this day.

 

[Rustic]

"There is no left in America."
Gads, you're an imbecile.

"CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

CIA Director John Brennan voted for the Communist Party candidate in the 1976 presidential election.

Brennan told a congressional panel last week that he "froze" while taking a CIA polygraph test four years later when the questioner asked him if he had ever worked with or for a group that was "dedicated to overthrowing the U.S.," CNN reported.

"This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate," Brennan said at a panel discussion regarding diversity in the intelligence community during the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation’s annual conference."
CIA Director Once Voted for Communist Presidential Candidate

Here is the correct formulation of that idea:
While there certainly is a Far Left in America.....

...there is no Far Right.

Is that it ?

I only state facts.

You post selective facts which, on reflection, look ridiculous.

Disprove them because frankly you don't have any credibility. Your word (like everyone else's) is shit.

And during this so called Golden Age you shot two Kennedys,MLK,Reagan and John Lennon

10. Before Liberals/Democrats controlled what we call ‘the culture,’ we lived “in a time in America when right and wrong was more starkly defined, where expectations about behavior were clear, and wickedness hadn’t been normalized.


Those who have been so busy destroying the moral backstops in our culture won’t want to have this conversation. They’ll do what they do -- mock the truth.

Even thirty years ago, the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints, those leveling commonalities, were the target of a half-century of attack by the freewheeling counterculture that has now become the dominant replacement culture.

The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do. If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.

Culture is a powerful force for good. When good behavior is normalized and deviant destructive behavior is ostracized, shamed, and marginalized, you get more good behavior.” Flashback 30 Years: When Guns Were in Schools ... and Nothing Happened




"...the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries."

David Mamet put it this way:
" This is the great contribution of our Judeo-Christian foundation to Western civilization. The principles of justice are laid down in the Torah and the Gospels, and implemented through human actions memorialized in judicial codes.

The written laws and rules are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience."


Bolsheviks, Liberals, Socialists....destroyed this.

And during this so called Golden Age you shot two Kennedys,MLK,Reagan and John Lennon. America was born out of gun violence, the legacy continues to this day.

All along bailing everybody else out of their own shit... lol