Mass Killings: The Blame

[impuretrash]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It’s a very very easy argument. Guns are part of America and have been throughout its history. Mass shootings weren’t. Something has changed and it isn’t the 2nd amendment.
Another reason to eradicate liberalism.

You unwittingly just made the case for changing our laws to adjust to changing times.

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. It’s the changes in the culture, and the change is the lesser value placed on human life.

Which political perspective gets the blame for that??????


Today…a lack of respect for the law, a lack of respect for authority….ask any teacher about changes in the atmosphere in the classroom…..

……and a lack of respect for life.

The Left’s support of the abortion industry is centered on that lack of respect for life.


There are pro-life vs the anti-life movements, the latter based on the argument…

“It's not a baby- it's just a blob of tissue”
It's not a baby- it's just a blob of tissue :: Catholic News Agency




But the industry makes a fortune by harvesting organs…..from what they clamed was just a ‘blob of tissue.’


We should take a careful look at what caused those changes in our culture....

...and 'abort' the political philosophy responsible.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.

What then? Then we should do everything possible within the confines of our Constitution to regulate who gets guns, and how they get guns.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Great thread. Guns don’t kill people without people using the guns. Right?

Wrong. Guns kill people all the time. So often I see my gun got out of it's holster and I have to chase it all over the living room to put it back in.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.

What then? Then we should do everything possible within the confines of our Constitution to regulate who gets guns, and how they get guns.

You mean like we did with recreational narcotics?

One of the most transcending political debates are the illegals. Wait a minute! Don't we regulate who comes into this country and who doesn't? If so, how did we end up with 11 million of them here?

 

[Redfish]

the underlying causes

1. the degradation of our culture
2. the removal of religion from our culture
3. political correctness
4. not holding people responsible for their actions
5. corrupt politicians
6. obsessive violence in movies, TV, games, music, and dialog
7. intolerance of differing views
8. progressivism, liberalism, Marxism, communism, socialism
9. the blurring of the lines between right and wrong.

 

[LoneLaugher]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

Imagine, if you could break yourself of the fake outrage you try to evince with vulgarity....you might appear to be an adult.



....a stupid adult....but an improvement still.

 

[Redfish]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

almost everyone has a hammer and knives, should we ban those? almost everyone has a car and cars kill millions every year, ban those? hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings are killed every year in abortions, but no call from libs to ban those.

the hypocrisy of liberalism on full display.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Left has reduced life to this:
“…. it's just a blob of tissue”


Follow that to its logical conclusion…..
4. …..Hussein Obama is just a blob of tissue…..

And even though Obama supported of infanticide,….and, yes he did…..

…” the practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth” infanticide | Definition of infanticide in English by Oxford Dictionaries

…..yet, large numbers of voters supported him….and now, are shocked at the murders of children, as in the recent school shooting.





5. And Obama hired as his science adviser, an ‘expert’ who claimed it was just fine to kill children after they were born, Peter Singer, and no one on the Right would defend infanticide, or the killing Obama…..

 

[LoneLaugher]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

almost everyone has a hammer and knives, should we ban those? almost everyone has a car and cars kill millions every year, ban those? hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings are killed every year in abortions, but no call from libs to ban those.

the hypocrisy of liberalism on full display.

Doesn't making that same moronic argument get boring and embarrassing after doing it so often? You have had the reason why
it is moronic explained to you dozens of times. Yet, you still use it. That makes you a moron.

 

[impuretrash]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

almost everyone has a hammer and knives, should we ban those? almost everyone has a car and cars kill millions every year, ban those? hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings are killed every year in abortions, but no call from libs to ban those.

the hypocrisy of liberalism on full display.

Doesn't making that same moronic argument get boring and embarrassing after doing it so often? You have had the reason why
it is moronic explained to you dozens of times. Yet, you still use it. That makes you a moron.

It's almost as if people have deeply held beliefs or something.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. Communism, Liberalism’s earlier iteration, has as its central beliefs, both atheism, and a morality dictated by the state.



What is the basis for aligning America with Bolshevism????
What possible compelling government interest was served by pretending that this nation was not created based on a reverence for the Bible, by Founders who observed the Judeo-Christian faith?


Why did Franklin Roosevelt substitute this:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

…for a reverence for life?





The cultural Marxism so prevalent in our society today, ascendant since WWII, desensitizes society to mass murder, in fact, murder of any sort.

"Hitler has slain his millions. Stalin his tens of millions."
Millennials don’t seem to know this history. Perhaps they’ve never heard of "The Black Book of Communism." The publisher is Harvard University Press (1999).” Millennials Don't Know Brutal History of Communism

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

FYI his adoptive mother died in November so ya know, that might have played a role.

He had possession of an AR-15 and a bunch of ammo. That might have played a roll.

Lots of people do.

Yeah. It is fucking stupid.

almost everyone has a hammer and knives, should we ban those? almost everyone has a car and cars kill millions every year, ban those? hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings are killed every year in abortions, but no call from libs to ban those.

the hypocrisy of liberalism on full display.

Not here they didn't, but overseas they did:

UK police behind effort to ban knives to end ‘knife violence’

 

[whitehall]

The NRA isn't the enemy, every mass shooting in modern history was committed by a left wing maniac. Generally liberals worry more about the privacy of the mentally incompetent rather than the safety of the public. The Va. Tech shooter was given a break by local law enforcement after a couple of female students complained of being stalked. Instead of convicting the maniac the local judge ordered psychiatric counseling and thanks to liberals the psychiatric counseling did not show up on the instant name check. The media downplayed the democrat activist and Sanders supporter who opened fire on a republican baseball team last spring. The jury is out on Stephen Paddock but it seems hat he was motivated by the same hatred for conservatives as James Hodgkinson. The media downplayed the fact that the Columbine kids were doped up on school issued personality altering drugs and the Florida shooter was so crazy and violent that Police were called to his house 39 times. Local jurisdiction failed the public and when the FBI received a tip that the shooter was stockpiling weapons for a mass shooting the tip was ignored so federal law enforcement also failed the public.The anger should be directed at the incompetence of federal law enforcement rather than criticizing congress for not creating redundant anti-gun legislation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7.The proximate cause of many of these mass shootings….and it’s not guns.



I’ll go out on a limb here, and suppose that most teachers and most mental health providers, e.g., psychologists and guidance counselors, are Liberals.

That means that personal responsibility is not in their constellation of views.
And the method that these folks, largely, prescribe are drugs that…..’medicate’ children…..you know, in place of teaching discipline and respect for authority….



But these drugs have side effects…..known side effects…..

With the result that we saw in the recent school shooting:
“At least fourteen recent school shootings were committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs.

It is important to note the … cases where the information about the shooters psychiatric drug use was made public. To give an example, although it is known that James Holmes, suspected perpetrator of the Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting, was seeing psychiatry-ist Lynne Fenton, there has been no mention of what psychiatric drugs he may have been taking—though it is highly probably he was taking psychiatric drugs considering he was under a psychiatrist’s “care”.

Of these 14, seven were seeing either a psychiatrist (5 of them) or psychologist (2 of them). It is not known whether or not the other half were seeing a psychiatrist, as it has not been published.


There have been 22 international drug regulatory warnings issued on psychiatric drugs causing violence, mania, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and other violent type reactions.
These warnings have been issued in the United States, European Union, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.”
Columbine | CCHR International




We need prescription control far more than gun control.

But it still leads back to one particular political philosophy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. “MEDIA IGNORING 1 CRUCIAL FACTOR IN FLORIDA SCHOOL SHOOTING

Here we go again. A horrific mass shooting occurs. Everyone is in shock and grief. Democrats blame guns and Republicans. Pundits urge the public, “If you see something, say something.” And everyone asks, “Why?”

As information about the perpetrator emerges, a relative confides to a newspaper that the “troubled youth” who committed the mass murder was on psychiatric medications – you know, those powerful, little understood, mind-altering drugs with fearsome side effects including “suicidal ideation” and even “homicidal ideation.”



Yet the predictable response from the press is always the same – not only a total lack of curiosity, but disdain for any who ask the question, as though connecting psychiatric meds to mass shootings is pursuing a “conspiracy theory.”



In the case of Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old Florida mass-shooter, his mother’s sister, Barbara Kumbatovich, told the Miami Herald that she believed Cruz was on medication to deal with his emotional fragility.

This is strikingly similar to reports right after the 2013 school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, when Mark and Louise Tambascio, family friends of shooter Adam Lanza and his mother, were interviewed on CBS’ “60 Minutes,” during which Louise Tambascio told correspondent Scott Pelley: “I know he was on medication and everything, but she homeschooled him at home cause he couldn’t deal with the school classes sometimes, so she just homeschooled Adam at home. And that was her life.” And here, Tambascio tells ABC News, “I knew he was on medication, but that’s all I know.”
Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting

 

[Brain357]

What is the explanation….seems to be more and more mass killings….

1. Guns???

If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.
No….it’s not inanimate objects that are the ultimate cause.

….there were lots of guns in earlier times….the .45 cal handgun was available….it’s called the 1911 because it was developed in 1911…and it has been ubiquitous since World War I.

In the 1990s with a handgun ban in effect, Wash DC had the highest murder rate in Western Civilization, ….and now you can own guns legally, and the homicide rate has declined.



2. Well, there was the St Valentine’s Day Massacre….and the Texas Tower…but, today we have incidents like the school shooting, and I heard on the news that Chicago sends police to funerals, where people are shooting others who they claim caused the the death they were memorializing.

And this….
“6 dead in 'calculated' shooting at backyard party in Pa.”
6 dead in 'calculated' shooting at backyard party in Pa.


It’s practically commonplace today.


But, no… not the availability of guns….it’s the degradation of the culture.

It's something else.....something that didn't begin with the start of this nation.

At the start of the nation we had muskets. Hard to do a mass shooting. In the last few years we now have lots of guns with high capacity magazines for killing lots of people.

 

[hazlnut]

What is the explanation….seems to be more and more mass killings….

1. Guns???

If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.
No….it’s not inanimate objects that are the ultimate cause.

….there were lots of guns in earlier times….the .45 cal handgun was available….it’s called the 1911 because it was developed in 1911…and it has been ubiquitous since World War I.

In the 1990s with a handgun ban in effect, Wash DC had the highest murder rate in Western Civilization, ….and now you can own guns legally, and the homicide rate has declined.



2. Well, there was the St Valentine’s Day Massacre….and the Texas Tower…but, today we have incidents like the school shooting, and I heard on the news that Chicago sends police to funerals, where people are shooting others who they claim caused the the death they were memorializing.

And this….
“6 dead in 'calculated' shooting at backyard party in Pa.”
6 dead in 'calculated' shooting at backyard party in Pa.


It’s practically commonplace today.


But, no… not the availability of guns….it’s the degradation of the culture.

It's something else.....something that didn't begin with the start of this nation.

No, guns are not to blame.

Just like planes are not to blame for 9/11.

But we made it very hard for terrorists to get a plane filled with jet fuel.