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Massachuettes orders residents to surrender bump stocks

he guy in Vegas used one, fired over 1,000 rounds into a huge, 22,000 person crowd, that was tightly packed....and only managed to murder 58 people....

Here's a gunporn addict complaining he's not getting enough body count, therefore don't ban it.

Hard to believe some of these thought-farts.
Come get them criminal.
It`s the criminals that ARE getting them with the help of the gun/criminal lobby. Those that support them share moral responsibility for every mass murder we`ve had and the ones to come.
Body Counts Don`t Matter do they?
 
I would trade Germany`s murder rate for ours in a heartbeat. What a sad day it will be when we no longer have the freedom to shoot 500 people at a concert or gun down a classroom full of second graders.

Liar. Move to Germany if it's so horrible here.
You're a clueless prick.
 
he guy in Vegas used one, fired over 1,000 rounds into a huge, 22,000 person crowd, that was tightly packed....and only managed to murder 58 people....

Here's a gunporn addict complaining he's not getting enough body count, therefore don't ban it.

Hard to believe some of these thought-farts.
Come get them criminal.
It`s the criminals that ARE getting them with the help of the gun/criminal lobby. Those that support them share moral responsibility for every mass murder we`ve had and the ones to come.
Body Counts Don`t Matter do they?
Body counts matter only to democrats when they start killing people, and liberals are the ones who refuse to get tough on gun crime, criminal.
 
I would trade Germany`s murder rate for ours in a heartbeat. What a sad day it will be when we no longer have the freedom to shoot 500 people at a concert or gun down a classroom full of second graders.

Liar. Move to Germany if it's so horrible here.
You're a clueless prick.
If we didn`t have grown children here we would`ve been in Canada or Costa Rica 10 years ago. What am I clueless about?
 
he guy in Vegas used one, fired over 1,000 rounds into a huge, 22,000 person crowd, that was tightly packed....and only managed to murder 58 people....

Here's a gunporn addict complaining he's not getting enough body count, therefore don't ban it.

Hard to believe some of these thought-farts.
Come get them criminal.
It`s the criminals that ARE getting them with the help of the gun/criminal lobby. Those that support them share moral responsibility for every mass murder we`ve had and the ones to come.
Body Counts Don`t Matter do they?
Body counts matter only to democrats when they start killing people, and liberals are the ones who refuse to get tough on gun crime, criminal.
Street thugs are registered Dems? Are you really that stupid or can you back it up?
 
That's too bad

Looks like there is nothing to prevent turning a semiautomatic into fully automatic

Since we don't allow fully automatic weapons........
Liar, it's not full auto. I pray you sorry scum get what you're begging for.
If you can achieve firing rates at 500 rpm you are the equivalent to full auto
Irrelevant. Full auto is a mechanical action. Not an RPM count. Nice try though...

Irrelevant how you get there

The Government can declare them an unnecessary threat and ban them
They only have to point to Las Vegas as justification

Nobody can defend why they are needed
No one has to defend why they are needed.
Yes they do

Heller was about a ban on handguns in DC.
While it could be proved that handguns were involved in many, many murders.......the state could not dispute their usefulness in self protection

Nobody needs a bumpstock for self defense
 
Nobody needs a bumpstock for self defense

I disagree.....
When the Left is endowed by the ignorant masses with too much power.......(an example would be Venezuela).....
Then everybody needs one or two...along with fully automatic weapons, armored vehicles, body armor, tanks, missiles etc

If you ever bothered to learn about that Document the Left loathes called the Constitution, you'd know exactly why the intent of the Constitution was to arm The People in such a way as to be able to DEFEND themselves against Leftist tyranny.
 
The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.






Full auto is a waste of ammo anyway.
 
What am I clueless about?
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Nobody needs a bumpstock for self defense

I disagree.....
When the Left is endowed by the ignorant masses with too much power.......(an example would be Venezuela).....
Then everybody needs one or two...along with fully automatic weapons, armored vehicles, body armor, tanks, missiles etc

If you ever bothered to learn about that Document the Left loathes called the Constitution, you'd know exactly why the intent of the Constitution was to arm The People in such a way as to be able to DEFEND themselves against Leftist tyranny.

The Constitution was written by liberals

They ensured that it contained more than a second amendment
We had a first amendment so we would never need a second
 
The state of Massachusetts is ordering residents to surrender any bump stocks in their possession, making clear that even keeping such an accessory at home is prohibited.
Massachusetts Orders Residents to Surrender Bump Stocks
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No, they haven't been trying to take the guns.........They have been working on it since Obama and a little during Bush.
States are starting to wheedle away the peopel's rights.
Bitch, that accessory makes a semi into a full automatic rifle. Therefore having one without a Class 3 license is illegal.

Because the NRA and fools like you have made guns so available to the crazies, you are going to find gun laws put into affect that even I don't like. You and the NRA are the danger to my rights to own firearms, not the liberals.
Does it HURT to be this stupid?
 
If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.
Nonetheless... That won't stop owners from going to jail when a neighbor reports "automatic" gunfire coming from your property. The northeast is turning into a gulag...
If they don't have a class 3 license and have a gun that can be fired like a machine gun, they belong in jail.
Directly from F-troop, a crank operated Gatling is, legally, NOT a machine gun.
 
If they're not paying owners of such stocks fair market value for any such stocks turns in, then they are violating the Fifth Amendment prohibitions against taking private property without just compensation and without due process of law.

If they are giving such compensation, then they are fraudulently misusing taxpayer funds to do so.

Either way, even without taking into consideration the Second Amendment, Massachusetts is acting illegally, here.
Fuck all of that. Just put charge them with a federal felony for owning a full automatic rifle without a class 3 license.
A bump stock is-explicitly-not a class 3 device, per F-troop.
 
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The “authorities” were the ones making that distinction, and call. Not the citizens. That’s a problem... Did you entertain the notion that the Sarnyev brothers might actually be in your house?

I do not remember seeing a single story about ANYONE resisting the evacuation or searches.

I don' live in that area of Massachusetts. I would have known they weren't in the house. I would still have enthusiastically let the police into the house.


Those who are willing to trade freedom for safety, and security deserve neither; and will lose both.

And just out of curiosity... What do you think would have happened to the citizen who stood his ground, and actively denied the police entry without a warrant?

Twenty or thirty self-inflicted wounds to the back.
 
Only a fool thinks more frivolous laws will save a single soul, gun control is all about control of people they disagree with, and has nothing to do with saving any lives.
In fact opposite is true

Apparently you are a firearms dealer. I know one of our local gun shop owners pretty well.

Even he (along with a vast majority of NRA members and Republicans) wants to see universal BG checks.

QU Poll Release Detail

Voters also support 73 - 25 percent, including 62 - 34 percent among Republicans and 67 - 29 percent among voters in households where there is a gun, a ban on modifications to make a semi-automatic weapon fire more like an automatic weapon, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds.
Consistent with every Quinnipiac University poll since February 2013, in the wake of the Sandy Hook Massacre, American voters support 94 - 5 percent requiring background checks for all gun purchases. Voters in gun households support universal background checks 93 - 6 percent. Support for other nationwide gun measures is:
  • 79 - 19 percent for a mandatory waiting period for all gun purchases;
  • 64 - 32 percent for a ban on the sale of assault weapons;
  • 86 - 12 percent for a ban of the sale of guns to people convicted of a violent crime;
  • 58 - 38 percent for stricter regulations on ammunition sales;
  • 64 - 34 percent for a ban on high-capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
 
You might have an argument ifit applied only to items which were acquired illegally in the first place. But that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about property that was legally-acquired, and legal to possess and use at the time that it was acquired, with a corrupt government deciding after the fact to make it illegal to continue to possess or use. To deprive owners of that property, without just compensation, blatantly violates the Fifth Amendment's prohibition against such.

Sorry, that is not required for illegally held items.

If I buy a RADAR Detector in a State where it is legal and use it in a State where it is illegal, I'm still in violation of the law and it will be confiscated and I'll be charged even though I acquired it legally.

See, also, Article I, Section 10, of the Constitution, which prohibits “ex post facto Law”. It's unconstitutional to punish someone for an act that was legal at the time it was taken, but which was made illegal afterward.

No one will punished for owning a bump stock in the past (which is an ex post facto law means). They will only be punished if they are found to be in possession of a bump stock AFTER the date the law becomes effective. That is not an ex post facto law.


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Radar dectors are not protected by the constitution the right to bear arms is.

Actually radar detectors are protected by the Federal Communications Act of 1934. The Virginia state law --- the only one left, if it even still exists --- is countermanded by Federal law.
CT had the same law for a long time, though not anymore. They'r still prohibited in commercial vehicles, though.
 

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