Massive Police Response to Reports of Mass Shooting at 16-Year-Old’s Birthday Party in Dadeville, Alabama

Does it matter what kind of weapon is used? There are so many different kinds up guns that can be used, but of course, other things beside a gun of any form can also be used.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
Actually it makes a difference. Since different weapons require different degrees of "intent", with guns usually requiring the least level of "intent", whereas means like strangulation requiring the highest level of "intent"
 
Yes. Very recently, a racist used his SUV to run over a number of folks at a parade. He killed a number of innocent people, including the elderly as well as children. He showed no remorse at all and was found guilty of a mass killing. Ban all SUVs, I say.
I see where you're going with this, but remember, there have been cases of building collapsing due to faulty construction or maintenance, and the owners charged with multiple/mass murder.
Of course banning buildings, as a reaction, becomes a difficult task.
 
I see where you're going with this, but remember, there have been cases of building collapsing due to faulty construction or maintenance, and the owners charged with multiple/mass murder.
Of course banning buildings, as a reaction, becomes a difficult task.
Exactly! If I kill 4 or more with a butter knife ... well then, I guess I'll have to spread my butter with a steak knife.
 
I'm starting to believe these shootings are state sponsored to force gun control



2nd amendment in action.

Did you know -

Excluding the Dadeville incident, there have been at least 162 mass shootings in the US in 2023. The group defines such incidents as shootings where four people have been killed, not including the shooter.
Among the dead are at least 75 children under 11 and 434 teenagers aged between 12 and 17, with over 12,000 deaths attributed to gun violence in the US since January 1 this year.

The town I live in in Southern Scotland has a population of 33,000 , America has blasted away 12,000 of those since January 1st !!!

 
2nd amendment in action.

Did you know -

Excluding the Dadeville incident, there have been at least 162 mass shootings in the US in 2023. The group defines such incidents as shootings where four people have been killed, not including the shooter.
Among the dead are at least 75 children under 11 and 434 teenagers aged between 12 and 17, with over 12,000 deaths attributed to gun violence in the US since January 1 this year.

The town I live in in Southern Scotland has a population of 33,000 , America has blasted away 12,000 of those since January 1st !!!



"Deaths by suicide made up the vast majority of gun violence deaths this year – about 57%, the nonprofit gun violence tracker reports. There's been an average of about 66 deaths by suicide per day in 2023."
 
"Deaths by suicide made up the vast majority of gun violence deaths this year – about 57%, the nonprofit gun violence tracker reports. There's been an average of about 66 deaths by suicide per day in 2023."
Not bothered about the suicide deflection. Suicide kills the person committing suicide, a mass shooter is the person killing innocent people, often kids.

So blow suicides out of your ass all day, fuck all to do with mass shooters.
 
I'm starting to believe these shootings are state sponsored to force gun control



Deep state sponsored CIA mind control.
 
Yup. It's called "Constitutional Carry" because it recognizes the law of the land -- the Constitution.

Unfortunately ... the GOP leaders in Alabama are trying to push through some anti-2A legislation. So there's a definite dichotomy of thought and overall double-mindedness in that state.
They have constitutional carry at the NRA con-vention, right?
 
Not bothered about the suicide deflection. Suicide kills the person committing suicide, a mass shooter is the person killing innocent people, often kids.

So blow suicides out of your ass all day, fuck all to do with mass shooters.
No deflection.
You're the one who proclaimed: "America has blasted away 12,000 of those since January 1st !!!"

I simply want to make sure it's put into it's proper context. The majority of victims are self-inflicted.
 
Somebody may have been disrespected in front of his ceew.//

Our society now tolerates violence as an adequate response to 'being offended.' Until that mentality is obliterated, you will continue to see incidents like this. And like what we see in Chicago every weekend.
 
Nope. 4 or more constitute a "mass shooting."


Actually, that isn't true...that used to be the standard, but under that standard, you didn't get enough actual mass public shootings....so obama lowered the number to 3 killed.......and that still didn't give them a lot of actual mass public shootings.....

Did More Mass Shootings Take Place Under Obama Than Any Other President?

Moreover, in January 2013 a mandate for federal investigation of mass shootings authorized by President Obama changed the previous definition of what constitutes a “mass shooting” event by lowering the minimum number of victims from four to three, thereby increasing the number of such incidents so classified during President Obama’s second term.


US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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  • Here is a description of the criteria we use:

    • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
    • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
    • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
    • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
    • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...



Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74

2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8
 

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