McCarthy Admits Benghazi Designed to Flatten Hillary Poll Numbers

[Zander]

It's so easy to fool people, especially Democrats. Just lie to their faces (a finger wag is always helpful), then continue to lie, shamelessly. If you are ever caught in the lie, (bite lip) double down! Repeat the lie over and over. If all else fails -claim it is all a vast right wing conspiracy! The bigger the lie, the easier it is to sell.

"it was a youtube video".
"planned parenthood is a women's health clinic"
"I. Did not. Have. Sexual..Relations with. That woman"
"The cost of health insurance will decrease by $2500 per family"
"Obamacare lowers the deficit!"

 

[Sallow]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

Wow, you're doubling down on stupidity this morning, Sallow! Now you're back arguing the same nonsense that it was GOP budget cuts that caused the lack of security in Libya? Really? Did you not get the memo that argument died a quick death the moment that Charlene Lamb testified under oath that budget cuts had NOTHING to do with security levels in Benghazi? That the State Department was "satisfied" with security levels there?

One of the things about this administration is it's "deference" to the GOP.

Obama cobbled together the "Grand Bargain".
Obama suggested and agreed to the Sequester.
Obama used the Heritage Foundation's plan for health care.
Obama got rid of funding for ACORN.
Obama forced the resignation of Shirley Sherrod.
Obama said that many projects weren't "Shovel ready".
Obama deported more "illegal immigrants" then any other modern President.
And on and on..

This has bought his administration nothing from the GOP.

I think it's only very recently he grew a set of stones and began fighting back.

But that doesn't change some truly cringe worthy moments.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

good grief, are you paid by Hillary? We sure didn't hear any whining over the waste of investigating some low level agent, Valerie Plame for five years, I think it was. so go grab a crying towel

The outing of a covert CIA Agent is a crime and worthy of investigation to find who the hell did it and for what purpose. Ever hear of Scooter Libby who fell on his sword for another crook named Dick Cheney? And what is this five year BS? Get thee informed!

 

[nuhuh]

Well the problem you have now is the fact that the whole thing was a lie. Go live with it.

Your OPINION is as useful as wet toilet paper.

NY Times, Huffington Post, Washington Times, Fox News, MediaMatters.org, CNN, and many more all reported the following:

"CIA officers who testified privately to Congress about the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya, revealed a disagreement among them about how quickly they could go help the besieged U.S. ambassador and others as well as a standing order for them to avoid violent encounters."

The facts and testimony presented show that these 3 CIA members wanted to IMMEDIATELY respond to the attack on Ambassador Stevens' compound and that their leads told them this was not a good idea, that there was not enough man-power/fire-power to do so, and that they should 'avoid an violent encounter' (for now).

SYMANTICS! 'Don't go'...'wait'...is that a 'Stand Down' order? Was it an 'official' 'Stand Down' Order'? Do you consider that to be a LOCAL 'order' given by the CIA Team Lead there on the ground in Benghazi or is there a possible way to 'pin it onto' Obama?
-- It depends on who you ask...and rabid partisans on both sides will not only interpret it to fit their agenda but will blow it out of proportion to do so...which it has been.

As for me, my experience, what I do, and what I have done, I can say if the situation went up in Benghazi the way it did and the Ambassador's compound was under attack, I have been trained to react the same way the Ex-Navy SEALS did - you respond to save lives. A 'regular' CIA chief without the same training / experience is probably going to think about the risk and the need to wait for back-up. Men with combat experience don't think that way. People are in danger - respond. For these men, there was no time for the Obama administration to ever pass on such an order. It was a spur of the moment call made by the local CIA Team Leader - "Wait...don't go." The PERSONAL CHOICE to ignore such a call and to go was made by the 3 men who eventually died.

I do not blame anyone for such an initial 'stand down' order and do not blame them for the deaths of these 3 men. It was THEIR call, their decision, and what they were trained to do. 'Honor, Service Before Self, Excellence In All We Do'...'Never Leave a Man Behind'...'Semper Fi'. To many these are just words but to those who serve they are creeds to live...and die...by. The 'SMART' thing to do was to 'stand down' and wait for more help (that never came), but that's not what these' guys were trained to do. So, again, I do not blame such an 'order' - which I believe was given - in this case. The fuss being made over it is way out of proportion.

It did not lead to the death of Ambassador Stevens. The 'Monday Morning QB' List of what 'coulda / shoulda / woulda' things that led to this NEEDLESS, PREVENTABLE tragedy is long and proven. Bad decisions were made, for months, leading up to this. It would not be the 1st time a President / staff made wrong decisions that turned out bad...but the attempted cover-up made it worse. 'You' don't always have to be right, to the point of denying mistakes. This administration has and continues to deny they did ANYTHING wrong regarding Benghazi and that this was not preventable. That's B$! I am not completely 'blaming' Obama for what happen, but I do throw the B$ flag on that one.

ACCOUNTABILITY! MAN UP! Admit that this was a preventable tragedy that went south because of some poor calls. I think people would have respected Obama and Hillary more if they would have just admitted that right off the bat and then spoken out STRONGLY and BOLDLY against the TERRORISTS who perpetrated the attack...instead of blaming a video, claiming it wasn't a terrorist attack, arresting the 'creator of the video', then apologizing before the UN by declaring, 'The future must not be left to those who slander the prophet of Islam'. Taking faster action than waiting an entire year to arrest the 'lead terrorist' would have helped, as well.

Accountability? If there were any accountability at all, the committee's of congress would have had the CIA, Petraeas, and the military under the lights for their part in inaction, poor strategy and response. The simple fact that they kept the investigation focused on Clinton and State shows that they had an agenda of their own and that was to bring down Clinton. This tragedy was horrific, but it appears to not have had anything to do with Benghazi at all at least that seems to be what is now coming out.

 

[nuhuh]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

This link should have its own thread. Just maybe it might have an impact on the ignorance which effects so many on the Benghazi issue:

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Jesus, Wry...have a little self respect! Anyone with even a dollop of common sense knows by now that the "GOP cut the budget" trial balloon was shot out of the sky almost as soon as Clinton's people launched it...and yet all this time later people like you and Sallow are STILL pushing that narrative? That's pathetic. Seriously.

Yet it must pain you to see Rice vindicated as she was.

 

[Oldstyle]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

good grief, are you paid by Hillary? We sure didn't hear any whining over the waste of investigating some low level agent, Valerie Plame for five years, I think it was. so go grab a crying towel

The outing of a covert CIA Agent is a crime and worthy of investigation to find who the hell did it and for what purpose. Ever hear of Scooter Libby who fell on his sword for another crook named Dick Cheney? And what is this five year BS? Get thee informed!

Dude, when the "covert agent" is writing Op Eds in the New York Times trying to knee cap a sitting President...how covert do you really think they are? Let's be honest here, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame went after Bush with that Op Ed in a calculated political move that wasn't successful. The whining about outing a covert agent took place once that move failed and Wilson and Plame realized they had just killed their careers.

 

[Oldstyle]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

This link should have its own thread. Just maybe it might have an impact on the ignorance which effects so many on the Benghazi issue:

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Jesus, Wry...have a little self respect! Anyone with even a dollop of common sense knows by now that the "GOP cut the budget" trial balloon was shot out of the sky almost as soon as Clinton's people launched it...and yet all this time later people like you and Sallow are STILL pushing that narrative? That's pathetic. Seriously.

Yet it must pain you to see Rice vindicated as she was.

Susan Rice? How was she ever "vindicated"? At best she could possibly be portrayed as a "dupe" of those above her in the Administration. At worst she went along with the lies knowingly.

 

[Sallow]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

good grief, are you paid by Hillary? We sure didn't hear any whining over the waste of investigating some low level agent, Valerie Plame for five years, I think it was. so go grab a crying towel

The outing of a covert CIA Agent is a crime and worthy of investigation to find who the hell did it and for what purpose. Ever hear of Scooter Libby who fell on his sword for another crook named Dick Cheney? And what is this five year BS? Get thee informed!

Dude, when the "covert agent" is writing Op Eds in the New York Times trying to knee cap a sitting President...how covert do you really think they are? Let's be honest here, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame went after Bush with that Op Ed in a calculated political move that wasn't successful. The whining about outing a covert agent took place once that move failed and Wilson and Plame realized they had just killed their careers.

Valerie Plame didn't write the OpEd, her husband did.

And did so after he was completely ignored by the Bush administration, AFTER they asked him to do the research.

In any case, they broke the law, and skated by offering up Scooter Libby as a sacrifice.

 

[Sallow]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

This link should have its own thread. Just maybe it might have an impact on the ignorance which effects so many on the Benghazi issue:

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Jesus, Wry...have a little self respect! Anyone with even a dollop of common sense knows by now that the "GOP cut the budget" trial balloon was shot out of the sky almost as soon as Clinton's people launched it...and yet all this time later people like you and Sallow are STILL pushing that narrative? That's pathetic. Seriously.

Yet it must pain you to see Rice vindicated as she was.

Susan Rice? How was she ever "vindicated"? At best she could possibly be portrayed as a "dupe" of those above her in the Administration. At worst she went along with the lies knowingly.

She didn't lie.
The CIA which generally lies, didn't lie.
The State Department didn't lie.

7 Investigations all found there was no wrong doing.

 

[boilermaker55]

It is all another fishing expedition to waste money and the conservatives/tea party's unadulterated hatred of the Clintons.
After hearing mccarthy's comments it has all become quite evident. They waste money via their hatred.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

good grief, are you paid by Hillary? We sure didn't hear any whining over the waste of investigating some low level agent, Valerie Plame for five years, I think it was. so go grab a crying towel

The outing of a covert CIA Agent is a crime and worthy of investigation to find who the hell did it and for what purpose. Ever hear of Scooter Libby who fell on his sword for another crook named Dick Cheney? And what is this five year BS? Get thee informed!

Dude, when the "covert agent" is writing Op Eds in the New York Times trying to knee cap a sitting President...how covert do you really think they are? Let's be honest here, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame went after Bush with that Op Ed in a calculated political move that wasn't successful. The whining about outing a covert agent took place once that move failed and Wilson and Plame realized they had just killed their careers.

You need to post facts not fiction. But you are right about being honest! Try it some time!

And I'm not a "Dude" IDIOT! Grow the fuck up! I just may have more time in the chow line than you have jerking off, but who knows for sure!

 

[boilermaker55]

Totally nonfactual post emitted here by the vile hating steph.

the party of death (progressive/democrat party) comes to Hillary's rescue again. the hell with Mr. Stevens an INNOCENT American civilian who was KILLED because of her and Obama Screw ups

 

[nuhuh]

Clinton was in charge at State...she made the call to have our diplomatic security decreased because the "optics" of that made it look like things were getting better in Libya (even though increased attacks belied that was the case!) and then she decided to mislead the families of those slain men, Congress and the American people about the attack once it happened.

What does it matter? This woman wants to be President. She lies to us. It matters!

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Priorities..

This link should have its own thread. Just maybe it might have an impact on the ignorance which effects so many on the Benghazi issue:

Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

Jesus, Wry...have a little self respect! Anyone with even a dollop of common sense knows by now that the "GOP cut the budget" trial balloon was shot out of the sky almost as soon as Clinton's people launched it...and yet all this time later people like you and Sallow are STILL pushing that narrative? That's pathetic. Seriously.

Yet it must pain you to see Rice vindicated as she was.

Susan Rice? How was she ever "vindicated"? At best she could possibly be portrayed as a "dupe" of those above her in the Administration. At worst she went along with the lies knowingly.

She was vindicated by your own people: House Intelligence Committee Benghazi Report Debunks Benghazi Conspiracy Theories
For almost a year this has been a common fact, you could save yourself a lot of trouble by staying informed.

 

[easyt65]

Accountability? If there were any accountability at all, the committee's of congress would have had the CIA, Petraeas, and the military under the lights for their part in inaction, poor strategy and response. The simple fact that they kept the investigation focused on Clinton and State shows that they had an agenda of their own and that was to bring down Clinton. This tragedy was horrific, but it appears to not have had anything to do with Benghazi at all at least that seems to be what is now coming out.

Thank you for proving my point about the lack of Liberal accountability!

It was not Patraeu's job nor that of the CIA or military to (directly) provide for the Security of our US Embassies - that would have been HILLARY'S and the STATE DEPARTMENT'S jobs.

In 2012, we know now, the Obama administration was producing false Intel reports declaring what a great job he was doing against ISIS and terrorism...while Obama was declaring Al Qaeida was on the run and how the War on Terror was over.

7 weeks later he was in full-damage control because, as I pointed out, Al Qaeida and terrorists responded to those Obama declarations by giving him a big ol' 'Shi'ite Sandwich' without even so much as a glass of water with which to choke it down!

But, as you just proved, Liberals continue to 'do the Heisman' by claiming they did nothing wrong, there were no bad decisions made, and Obama's and Hillary's hands are clean (except for Stevens' blood all over them).

 

[boilermaker55]

To make a statement like you have here, it would behoove you to take a closer look into the accountability of those that keep investigating something that has been proved that nothing wrong had been done.
So the accountability factor is your groups to bear and to come to some truthful analysis.

Accountability? If there were any accountability at all, the committee's of congress would have had the CIA, Petraeas, and the military under the lights for their part in inaction, poor strategy and response. The simple fact that they kept the investigation focused on Clinton and State shows that they had an agenda of their own and that was to bring down Clinton. This tragedy was horrific, but it appears to not have had anything to do with Benghazi at all at least that seems to be what is now coming out.

Thank you for proving my point about the lack of Liberal accountability!

It was not Patraeu's job nor that of the CIA or military to (directly) provide for the Security of our US Embassies - that would have been HILLARY'S and the STATE DEPARTMENT'S jobs.

In 2012, we know now, the Obama administration was producing false Intel reports declaring what a great job he was doing against ISIS and terrorism...while Obama was declaring Al Qaeida was on the run and how the War on Terror was over.

7 weeks later he was in full-damage control because, as I pointed out, Al Qaeida and terrorists responded to those Obama declarations by giving him a big ol' 'Shi'ite Sandwich' without even so much as a glass of water with which to choke it down!

But, as you just proved, Liberals continue to 'do the Heisman' by claiming they did nothing wrong, there were no bad decisions made, and Obama's and Hillary's hands are clean (except for Stevens' blood all over them).

 

[nuhuh]

Accountability? If there were any accountability at all, the committee's of congress would have had the CIA, Petraeas, and the military under the lights for their part in inaction, poor strategy and response. The simple fact that they kept the investigation focused on Clinton and State shows that they had an agenda of their own and that was to bring down Clinton. This tragedy was horrific, but it appears to not have had anything to do with Benghazi at all at least that seems to be what is now coming out.

Thank you for proving my point about the lack of Liberal accountability!

It was not Patraeu's job nor that of the CIA or military to (directly) provide for the Security of our US Embassies - that would have been HILLARY'S and the STATE DEPARTMENT'S jobs.

In 2012, we know now, the Obama administration was producing false Intel reports declaring what a great job he was doing against ISIS and terrorism...while Obama was declaring Al Qaeida was on the run and how the War on Terror was over.

7 weeks later he was in full-damage control because, as I pointed out, Al Qaeida and terrorists responded to those Obama declarations by giving him a big ol' 'Shi'ite Sandwich' without even so much as a glass of water with which to choke it down!

But, as you just proved, Liberals continue to 'do the Heisman' by claiming they did nothing wrong, there were no bad decisions made, and Obama's and Hillary's hands are clean (except for Stevens' blood all over them).

The CIA was responsible for the acquisition and disbursement of intelligence, Petraeus was the person who pushed the video explanation and was under open investigation by the FBI as early as spring 2012, six months before the attack. The fact that Petraeus wasn't thoroughly grilled but instead was dismissed from the investigation goes to my evidence that all of this was to bring down Clinton. The military was cursorily examined and dismissed also, but interesting because any military response at all would have been from their quarter and no one was brought to account why a rapid response team wasn't located closer. They were dismissed in just a couple of days.

All three of those elements should have figured highly in any responsible investigation, but as we have come to accept from 2nd rate Republicans they weren't up to the job or they might have gotten some answers. But today we know that wasn't their function at all.

 

[easyt65]

To make a statement like you have here, it would behoove you to take a closer look into the accountability of those that keep investigating...

Was Gowdy in charge of the security for the 20 US Embassies that were simultaneously attacked on 9/11/12 and for the security of Ambassador Stevens, the 1st Ambassador to be murdered in over 30 years?

Just STOP blaming and pointing the fingers at others, man! you're just embarrassing yourself.

 

[easyt65]

The CIA was responsible for the acquisition and disbursement of intelligence, Petraeus was the person who pushed the video explanation and was under open investigation by the FBI as early as spring 2012, six months before the attack.

Was Patraeus in charge of protecting the 2o US Embassies that were simultaneously attacked on 9/11/12 and for the security of Ambassador Stevens, the 1st Ambassador to be murdered in over 30 years? NO, that would be Hillary, the State Department, and Obama!

AGAIN, just STOP doing the 'Heisman' by blaming others and pointing fingers.

Know what the CIA was doing in Benghazi? Already proven, they were running guns to Syrian 'Rebels' (who later became ISIS)

I also already posted the story and link showing how the CIA had IMMEDIATELY informed Hillary this was a terrorist attack and that there WAS NO PROTEST....yet the Next Morning Obama has his toady on the Sunday Morning Talk Shows proclaiming this all to be a protest gone wrong!

FACE IT - IT WAS ALL A LIE AND A COVER-UP TO SAVE OBAMA'S RE-ELECTION!

It was NOT Patraeu's job to defend the 20 Embassies and to protect Stevens - it was HILLARY'S, the STATE DEPARTMENT'S and OBAMA'S...and THEY FAILED...based on the FACT that 4 Embassies were overrun, 1 US ambassador died, and 3 other Americans trying to protect Stevens died on 9/11/12.

Just STOP this pathetic, embarrassing 'blame-shifting'.

 

[Wry Catcher]

But it never was a legitimate investigation. It was a charade and a fraud used to discredit a legitimate candidate for office.

It certainly was a legit investigation. Four Americans were killed and it was important enough for those who were indirectly responsible to coverup their failure. That's a warrant for an investigation if ever there was one.

hmmm, how about a warrant issued for the deaths of 4,500 Americans based on the lies by George W, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo conservatives?

Yet again the partisan omission of the Democrats who did it arm in arm with them

It's a tossup, is this ^^^ a lie, a half-truth or ignorance? Given the record I lean toward a lie but even Kaz deserves a chance to clarify this post.

The D's did not vote in lock-step on the resolution to use force,

Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


with a few exceptions the Republicans did. Thus your comment is at best a half-truth. Writing the D's voted arm in arm (aka in lock-step) with the R's is an attempt to deceive the readers.

Of course maybe you actually believe what you wrote, which would not entirely surprise me. You've never shown the acumen necessary to explore matters which might challenge the biases you hold.

Then explain these two issues:
A) Why before GWB everyone including the MSM called for the "Liberation of Iraq" Even legislation passed during Clinton's term.

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, signed into law by President Clinton, states:
"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
105th Congress, 2nd Session
September 29, 1998

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."

Former President Clinton
During an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live"
July 22, 2003

Then THESE Democrats Supported the "Liberation of Iraq"..


"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998.

"It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction. As long as UNSCOM is prevented from carrying out its mission, the effort to monitor Iraqi compliance with Resolution 687 becomes a dangerous shell game. Neither the United States nor the global community can afford to allow Saddam Hussein to continue on this path."
Sen. Tom Daschle (D, SD), Feb. 12, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeleine Albright, Feb. 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb. 18, 1998.

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored away secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. I'm a co-sponsor of the bipartisan resolution that's presently under consideration in the Senate. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave threat to America and our allies..."
John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct. 10, 2002.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
Reasons for War: Things you might have forgotten about Iraq.

B) But then GWB/GOP won and NOW what was under the MSM the "Liberation of Iraq" It became the "INVASION of Iraq"!

So the idiots like Obama,etc, who never comprehended the role of the military did everything to destroy our military in Iraq.
These quotes certainly did what this Harvard study showed: HELPED the terrorists!

Case in point is the below idiots that made speeches that the MSM broadcast loudly around the world IN SPITE of this Harvard showed :
THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT" asked:

"Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?
The short answer is YES!!!
According to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's
Kennedy School of Government.

STUDY ABSTRACT
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across
Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to
information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war.
We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent.
The results suggest that insurgent groups respond rationally to expected probability of US withdrawal.

So because of traitors making statements like the below the conflict was encouraged and prolonged with 3,000 more deaths and $600 billion more then necessary!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." Kerry calling our troops TERRORISTS!!!
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

So when it became "politically driven to help the terrorists kill American troops as the above statements have been proven to do, the MSM with their KNOWN
Democrat/liberal biased reporting ALSO nightly showing deaths of US troops... Abu Ghraib done by 11 soldiers NOT the entire military but the MSM/Democrats
knew that the majority of Americans read headlines and constantly pushed our military and the Liberation of IRAQ daily as a "War is Lost" mentality!

Why haven't we invaded and occupied N. Korea? But I digress.

Those D's quoted above should have had easy recall of the Domino Theory and our failed attempt to control the fate of a region where we had little understanding of a specific nation's history or their culture so much different than our own. I can't speak for them, nor can they speak for me. I've walked the Vietnam Memorial Wall on the Mall in The District and read the names of guys I went to school with, played ball with and served with.

We should have learned a lesson from the Vietnam quagmire, instead we created a fiasco in Iraq. Notwithstanding the comments and actions above, more Democrats vote against the 2002 Iraq Resolution than voted for it. 95%+ of the Republican caucus in The Congress voted for it.

I was in a manager's seminar when C. Powell presented our case for Military Action against Iraq to the UN. Every person in the room had a four year degree, most of us had a Master's and there were a few with a Ph.D.

We were released to go to our respective hotel rooms to watch the event, and discuss what when on after viewing it. The vast majority of those attending believed the evidence Powell presented; I found it unconvincing at best, as did a few others in the room, one being a wounded Combat Vet.

President Lincoln said it best:

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

And today, the Neo Cons have risen again, do we really want to allow the Republican Party to once again send our kids into harms way with a poorly planned mission?

I'm not an isolationist nor am I a pacifist, but I've seen enough quagmires and fiascoes to last several lifetimes.

 

[kaz]

The lie that was told and retold by the administration until long after everyone knew otherwise that they thought it was a spontaneous attack alone easily justified the cost of the investigation. Obama and Rice both clearly lied whatever you want to call it, they both knew it wasn't. If Republicans knowingly lied, you'd be screaming for their heads, not arguing that somehow it wasn't illegal

But it never was a legitimate investigation. It was a charade and a fraud used to discredit a legitimate candidate for office.

It certainly was a legit investigation. Four Americans were killed and it was important enough for those who were indirectly responsible to coverup their failure. That's a warrant for an investigation if ever there was one.

hmmm, how about a warrant issued for the deaths of 4,500 Americans based on the lies by George W, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and the rest of the neo conservatives?

Yet again the partisan omission of the Democrats who did it arm in arm with them

Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda link allegations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And what does that have to do with the post you responded to? I didn't say the Republicans didn't do it, I said you did too, this doesn't contradicit that