Medicare for all would save $450 billion and 68,000 lives every year.

[EvilCat Breath]

Medicare for all means medicare for all of mexico.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

So Pelosi, Warren, Sanders, Biden, Cortez, and all the other socialists, are going to take number and get in line with everyone else?

*****SMILE*****

 

[jc456]

The one thing consistent about big spenders....

THEY ALWAYS LIE ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.....


right W......


Inquiry Confirms Top Medicare Official Threatened Actuary Over Cost of Drug Benefits


An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged.

A report on the investigation, issued Tuesday, says the administrator of Medicare, Thomas A. Scully, issued the threat to Richard S. Foster while lawmakers were considering huge changes in the program last year. As a result, Mr. Foster's cost estimate did not become known until after the legislation was enacted.





To me, right there, W should have been impeached. The W Administration is 100% busted deliberately lying to Congress about the estimated cost of SOCIALIZING senior drugs... complete with THREATS against the actuary who did the cost estimate...

all in the post 1998 GOP rush to sell out America, drain America of freedom, flood our high schools with free taxpayer funded addictive pills, and push us into another false flag sponsored "terror war."

I supposed no one likes the drugs that saves our health. too funny.

 

[DamnDude]

'Medicare for all would save $450 billion and 68,000 lives every year'

It will not cost a dime. It will pay for itself. It will educe the cost of premiums and if you like your doctor / plan you can keep them......

Oh wait, that was BarryCare.

Under the 'Great Socialist Take-Over-Care', your private health insurance plans will be outlawed and you branded a criminal if you have / attempt to keep any.

You will be herded like sheep into the New Communist/Socialist Democrat-ruled health care-rationing program which will provide less care than that given to illegals and far less than your new Masters ensure they and their families have.

It's going to be great....for the self-proclaimed Rulers.

Soon enough, the only ones that would even have true "health care" would be the political elite.
As if it isn't already happening....

 

[The Original Tree]

These Bernie Homos will never stop blowing each other and lying to The American People and neither with The Democrat Party, and there is No Difference Between Commie Bernie and any other DemTard Candidate.

ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM are pushing RADICAL COMMUNISM-GLOBALISM-SOCIALISM on a massive and exponentially Expensive Scale.

$200 Trillion in Proposed Expenditures and a complete overhaul of our economy that only has a $20 Trillion GDP.

There are not enough Gulags and Guillotines, nor enough wealth in this country that they can confiscate and tax the shit out of all of us to make this work.

It will completely bankrupt America and it's citizens, and it will leave America in a heap of smoldering ashes.

One has to wonder if this is what they want and have been planning all along.

I think it is.

 

[LaDairis]

I supposed no one likes the drugs that saves our health.

"our health" is not saved when the senior on 2 different prescriptions (which he likely doesn't need) all of a sudden is getting 5 different prescriptions all paid for by the US taxpayer, and 3 go with grandson to the high school where they are converted into thousands of dollars.... by getting our high schoolers addicted at a young age...

This poster, jc456, he is typical of a HANDOUT LOVING post 1998 "Republican." He goes to his doctor and parrots whatever he is told, and is "trial and errored" with one pill after another, and he really liked it when Uncle Sam started paying for it. He would likely be much better off if he had taken care of himself, ate healthy foods, worked out etc., but he didn't ... and because he didn't


YOU GOTTA PAY and FUCK YOU IF YOUR GRANDSON GETS ADDICTED TO OXYCONTIN



My fellow Americans, the post 1998 "Republican" really is a Democrat. Both just want a handout, and return a FUCK YOU if you don't want to pay for it, or if you object to the corruption and harm such SOCIALIZING does to society at large....,


PAY FOR YOUR OWN PILLS, or GET OFF THEM

 

[The Original Tree]

I supposed no one likes the drugs that saves our health.

"our health" is not saved when the senior on 2 different prescriptions (which he likely doesn't need) all of a sudden is getting 5 different prescriptions all paid for by the US taxpayer, and 3 go with grandson to the high school where they are converted into thousands of dollars.... by getting our high schoolers addicted at a young age...

This poster, jc456, he is typical of a HANDOUT LOVING 1998 "Republican." He goes to his doctor and parrots whatever he is told, and is "trial and errored" with one pill after another, and he really liked it when Uncle Sam started paying for it. He would likely be much better off if he had taken care of himself, ate healthy foods, worked out etc., but he didn't ... and because he didn't


YOU GOTTA PAY and FUCK YOU IF YOUR GRANDSON GETS ADDICTED TO OXYCONTIN



My fellow Americans, the post 1998 "Republican" really is a Democrat. Both just want a handout, and return a FUCK YOU if you don't want to pay for it, or if you object to the corruption and harm such SOCIALIZING does to society at large....,


PAY FOR YOUR OWN PILLS, or GET OFF THEM

Why don't you become a Leftist Monk, make a vow of Poverty and give your money to all of the "Grandsons" addicted to Oxycotin to prove to all of us, how important Communism-Socialism is to you?

If Democrats started showing us they would pay for their neighbor's kids college, healthcare, housing, while neglecting their own house, why, maybe we'd start believing they actually cared enough, and might join them.

Doing Drugs is a Sin and is called in The Bible Sorcery, with the Greek Root of that word being the same word we use to get Pharmaceuticals.

How about you quit interfering in these kids getting some churching? How about YOU do something for them with YOUR OWN MONEY?

 

[JGalt]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.

In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.

Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study

A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.

I'm a subscriber to the official Hank Johnson [D] theory: If 70,000 people didn't die every year, this country would grow so heavy that it would capsize and sink.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Do you save money when you go to the dr. or spend a few days in the hospital? Can Bernie make the doctors and nurses and labs and treatment centers work for free or for pennies on the dollar? Who is going to spend 10 years and huge $ to obtain a medical degree, only to make as much as a bank teller?
There is something very important that is never mentioned when the price tag for all this is calculated.
How much will healthcare cost when we open our borders to millions and millions and millions of people who want free everything too.

We will end up with no healthcare at all. You'll die waiting in line at the corner clinic...

 

[the other mike]

Listen to the shareholder/inheritance class chiming in.
Same ones who deny climate change is man-made and who
want to end the estate tax .

If my grandpa was Sam Walton and I inherited $18 billion, I think I'd make sure that WalMart employees were the happiest people in the country, instead of letting the taxpayers subsidize them .

 

[The Original Tree]

Listen to the shareholder/inheritance class chiming in.
Same ones who deny climate change is man-made and who
want to end the estate tax .

If my grandpa was Sam Walton and I inherited $18 billion, I thgink I'd make sure that WalMart employees were the happiest people in the country.

Take your Commie Demon Propaganda To Hell with you. America does not want to become The Soviet Union, and we will fight you until Jesus takes us outta here and turns this world over to you and The Devil for a short spell before Judgment Day.

Climate Change?

Read The Book of Revelation. Climate Change is a complete Joke compared to that. If you are going to get fried by The Sun in The Last Days, God will be lighting the fire.

 

[justoffal]

I call bullshit....Medicare costs in excess of 10X what it was projected -counting inflation- when it was set forth...This boondoggle will be no different....In fact, I defy anyone to cite the first time a gubmint program came in under budget and delivered a superior product.

It's a complete lie...

Medicare for all would very rapidly become survival of the fittest as increasingly restrictive parameters made it progressively illegal to treat and help any but the selected Efficiency targets.

It would become a congruent Auschwitz.

Jo

 

[jknowgood]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.

In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.

Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study

A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.

Ask Canada it's like a two week wait to get your arm set if you break it, but it's free!

 

[the other mike]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Do you save money when you go to the dr. or spend a few days in the hospital? Can Bernie make the doctors and nurses and labs and treatment centers work for free or for pennies on the dollar? Who is going to spend 10 years and huge $ to obtain a medical degree, only to make as much as a bank teller?
There is something very important that is never mentioned when the price tag for all this is calculated.
How much will healthcare cost when we open our borders to millions and millions and millions of people who want free everything too.

We will end up with no healthcare at all. You'll die waiting in line at the corner clinic...

Same old talking points we've been hearing for at least 25 years.

 

[the other mike]

Ask Canada it's like a two week wait to get your arm set if you break it, but it's free!

All you guys have is lies ?

 

[the other mike]

 

[Andylusion]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.

In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.

Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study

A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.

Here's my first problem... Your link claims that there are 37 Million people currently without health insurance.

Problem: Did not the left-wing and similar report claim that ObamaCare would provide insurance to 40 Million people?

The answer is of course, yes.

So it's fascinating that you claim we need more government run health care, because there are uninsured... and yet that is the exact same rational given for why we needed the last big increase in government run health care.

So explain to me.... why should anyone believe you? You said this last time, and we have a massively increased cost to government, the unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Medicaid now exceed $122 Trillion, and you claimed last time we had to do it for the uninsured, and here we are now with you telling us we need to do more, for the exact same reason.

The cost to the government has not gone down.

Further, the Lancet research does not cover the fact that Medicare would be forced to pay out more money, if we made it national insurance.

Medicare and Medicaid both, do not cover the full cost of treatment. The only way the government has been able to keep this model working for as long as it has, is because health care providers shift-costs to private patients.

We the private public, have to pay more for care, so that government can pay less for care.

If you remove private payers from that graph, one of two things will happen. A: All health care providers will close in bankruptcy. B: Medicare and Medicaid will have no choice but to pay out more money for treatment.

Since option A would result in a national crisis, then option B is the only viable option. And the moment you go for option B, then all your mythical savings goes out the window with it.

Additionally, we already have a fully socialized system in the US, known as the VA system. And maybe you missed it, but the VA system sucks.

 

[The Original Tree]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Do you save money when you go to the dr. or spend a few days in the hospital? Can Bernie make the doctors and nurses and labs and treatment centers work for free or for pennies on the dollar? Who is going to spend 10 years and huge $ to obtain a medical degree, only to make as much as a bank teller?
There is something very important that is never mentioned when the price tag for all this is calculated.
How much will healthcare cost when we open our borders to millions and millions and millions of people who want free everything too.

We will end up with no healthcare at all. You'll die waiting in line at the corner clinic...

$200 Trillion The Left wants to spend on all Their Commie-Globalist-Socialist Programs will Bankrupt This Country and doctors and nurses will be begging in the streets for bread just like a rich man. There will be no Rich men. All of us will be Beggars and Paupers, except for Sanders and his friends.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's hard to agree with Bernie and the Democrats on many things these days, but universal healthcare and eliminating the health insurance racket has always been one I've been on board with.

Bernie Sanders’ Medicare-for-All plan would save the country about $450 billion a year on total health care spending while preventing nearly 70,000 deaths, according to a study published over the weekend in The Lancet.

In the analysis, a team of epidemiologists led by Alison P. Galvani of the Yale School of Public Health applied the provisions of Sanders’ plan to real-world spending in the U.S. in 2017. They concluded that Medicare for All would have cost just over $3 trillion that year, or $458 billion less than the actual total. The analysis found that per capita costs would decline, resulting in lower costs overall, even with millions more people covered. And providing universal coverage would save 68,531 lives per year, the researchers.

Medicare for All Would Save $450 Billion and 68,000 Lives: Study

A voice of reason from the true left....my friend Lee Camp.

Excellent post!

 

[the other mike]

$200 Trillion The Left wants to spend on all Their Commie-Globalist-Socialist Programs will Bankrupt This Country and doctors and nurses will be begging in the streets for bread just like a rich man. There will be no Rich men. All of us will be Beggars and Paupers, except for Sanders and his friends.

Like your left-wing counterparts who believe CNN and NYTimes, you shouldn't believe everything from Fox and WSJ.