Message to the little girl worried mommy and daddy will be deported

[Correll]

go tell mommy and daddy it's wrong to break laws, and America is great, because in many places they'd be dead.





<sniff>

What if mommy and daddy respond that it's wronger to engage in broad-brush generalization fallacies?

So, they're not here illegally?

It was wrong of them to come here in violation of our democratically enacted laws.

Who says "they" did?

Their illegal status is the premise of the question. (unless you are quibbling about the possibility that they came legally and overstayed their visa?).

"They" do not have a status --- legal or otherwise. The OP never explained who the fuck he's talking about.

The only people who reasonable need to worry about being deported are illegals.

Oh fucking bullshit.

Even if we accepted that false premise it wouldn't tell us the backstory that was never filled in.
Must be convenient to just plug in your own circumstances to faceless nonentities.
Unfortunately it's also meaningless.

I went looking for how often that actually happens. I can't find any numbers on it, other than it is mostly used for former Nazi war criminals and have been used barely a hundred times for that since 1979.


M point stands. THe only people who reasonable need to worry about being deported are illegals.

 

[Correll]

How fortunate that they were able to do so.

I think that's one of the most denigrating interpretations of Jesus I've ever heard -.-. Fortunately, many are of a rather different view regarding the teachings of Jesus. Some quotes from the Bible...

"God Loves the Foreigner Residing Among You
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)"

Do Not Oppress a Foreigner
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)

Invite the Stranger In
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ (Matthew 25:25-36)

We Were All Baptized By One Spirit
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. (1 Corinthians 12:12-14)

Love Your Neighbor as Yourself
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)

Have Mercy on Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise." (Luke 10:29-37)

I got all of those quotes from here:
What the Bible Says About How to Treat Refugees

Please do not quote scripture...

Why, afraid it'll become obvious that Jesus would want no part in the anti immigrant furor going around in the U.S.?

Nobody's "anti-immigrant" dipshit. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

Show me in the OP where it says mommy an daddy are illegal aliens, idiot.

It is racist thuggery, and it is a blatant lie to say staying here as an alien is illegal.

And there you have it.. the rally cry of the left-wing dipshit brigade... RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!

It is ALL they have.

 

[Correll]

go tell mommy and daddy it's wrong to break laws, and America is great, because in many places they'd be dead.





<sniff>

What if mommy and daddy respond that it's wronger to engage in broad-brush generalization fallacies?

I'd respond that "Wronger" isn't a word, that it's not a "Broad brush generalization fallacy" to say that illegals broke the law, because they wouldn't be illegals if they didn't, that they should leave the country and come here legally as they were supposed to in the first place, and that ignoring that option should have them deported to the middle of the ocean because it's blatant stupidity, and that if they cared about their child, they wouldn't have put themselves and her in this position in the first place. Stupidity: The 8th Wonder of the world, exhibited constantly by illegals jumping the border instead of coming here legally, and wondering why they are deported.

The way you put it, you make it sound like all immigrants have to do is check the "come legally" box and presto, everything's cool. The truth is another matter entirely:
**
No “line” is available for the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants.
Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is generally limited to three different routes: employment, family reunification, or humanitarian protection. While the U.S. immigration system is generous, each of these possibilities is highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements. Most unauthorized immigrants do not have the necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status...**

Source: Why Don’t They Just Get In Line?

Works for me. Go home and don't come back.

I wonder what you'd think if it was -your- family starving on the other side of a border. There's actually a film that presents this type of argument. Have you seen a film called Elesium? Here's the trailer:

An incredibly stupid film. You do realize why you can't have unlimited immigration to a SPACE STATION?!


On a different scale, America can't take in EVERY FUCKING POOR PERSON on the planet, and if we tried we would destroy ourselves.



As it is, our society has suffered terrible harm and will be paying the price for generations.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Please do not quote scripture...

Why, afraid it'll become obvious that Jesus would want no part in the anti immigrant furor going around in the U.S.?

Nobody's "anti-immigrant" dipshit. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

Show me in the OP where it says mommy an daddy are illegal aliens, idiot.

It is racist thuggery, and it is a blatant lie to say staying here as an alien is illegal.

And there you have it.. the rally cry of the left-wing dipshit brigade... RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!

It is ALL they have.

Apparently... considering nobody has even mentioned race.

 

[HnL]

How fortunate that they were able to do so.

I think that's one of the most denigrating interpretations of Jesus I've ever heard -.-. Fortunately, many are of a rather different view regarding the teachings of Jesus. Some quotes from the Bible...

"God Loves the Foreigner Residing Among You
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)"

Do Not Oppress a Foreigner
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)

Invite the Stranger In
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ (Matthew 25:25-36)

We Were All Baptized By One Spirit
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. (1 Corinthians 12:12-14)

Love Your Neighbor as Yourself
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)

Have Mercy on Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise." (Luke 10:29-37)

I got all of those quotes from here:
What the Bible Says About How to Treat Refugees

Please do not quote scripture...

Why, afraid it'll become obvious that Jesus would want no part in the anti immigrant furor going around in the U.S.?

Nobody's "anti-immigrant" dipshit. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

Show me in the OP where it says mommy an daddy are illegal aliens, idiot.

It is racist thuggery, and it is a blatant lie to say staying here as an alien is illegal.

And there you have it.. the rally cry of the left-wing dipshit brigade... RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!

Because it is floridly racist. And it is an insane lie to say they are doing anything illegally. You can tell all your racist, fear mongering friends it is illegal. But that is a lie. And you won't bother showing us the law that says otherwise.

Because you are having too much fun mocking people and ginning up irrational fear.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

What if mommy and daddy respond that it's wronger to engage in broad-brush generalization fallacies?

I'd respond that "Wronger" isn't a word, that it's not a "Broad brush generalization fallacy" to say that illegals broke the law, because they wouldn't be illegals if they didn't, that they should leave the country and come here legally as they were supposed to in the first place, and that ignoring that option should have them deported to the middle of the ocean because it's blatant stupidity, and that if they cared about their child, they wouldn't have put themselves and her in this position in the first place. Stupidity: The 8th Wonder of the world, exhibited constantly by illegals jumping the border instead of coming here legally, and wondering why they are deported.

The way you put it, you make it sound like all immigrants have to do is check the "come legally" box and presto, everything's cool. The truth is another matter entirely:
**
No “line” is available for the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants.
Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is generally limited to three different routes: employment, family reunification, or humanitarian protection. While the U.S. immigration system is generous, each of these possibilities is highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements. Most unauthorized immigrants do not have the necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status...**

Source: Why Don’t They Just Get In Line?

Works for me. Go home and don't come back.

I wonder what you'd think if it was -your- family starving on the other side of a border. There's actually a film that presents this type of argument. Have you seen a film called Elesium? Here's the trailer:

An incredibly stupid film. You do realize why you can't have unlimited immigration to a SPACE STATION?!


On a different scale, America can't take in EVERY FUCKING POOR PERSON on the planet, and if we tried we would destroy ourselves.



As it is, our society has suffered terrible harm and will be paying the price for generations.

I wonder if they know we halted immigration for nearly 40 years in the past so as to give the wave that cam in in the early 20th century time to assimilate?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Please do not quote scripture...

Why, afraid it'll become obvious that Jesus would want no part in the anti immigrant furor going around in the U.S.?

Nobody's "anti-immigrant" dipshit. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

Show me in the OP where it says mommy an daddy are illegal aliens, idiot.

It is racist thuggery, and it is a blatant lie to say staying here as an alien is illegal.

And there you have it.. the rally cry of the left-wing dipshit brigade... RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!

Because it is floridly racist. And it is an insane lie to say they are doing anything illegally. You can tell all your racist, fear mongering friends it is illegal. But that is a lie. And you won't bother showing us the law that says otherwise.

Because you are having too much fun mocking people and ginning up irrational fear.

RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!! RACIST!!!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Please do not quote scripture...

Why, afraid it'll become obvious that Jesus would want no part in the anti immigrant furor going around in the U.S.?

Nobody's "anti-immigrant" dipshit. There is a difference between an immigrant and an illegal alien.

Show me in the OP where it says mommy an daddy are illegal aliens, idiot.

It is racist thuggery, and it is a blatant lie to say staying here as an alien is illegal.

And there you have it.. the rally cry of the left-wing dipshit brigade... RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!

Because it is floridly racist. And it is an insane lie to say they are doing anything illegally. You can tell all your racist, fear mongering friends it is illegal. But that is a lie. And you won't bother showing us the law that says otherwise.

Because you are having too much fun mocking people and ginning up irrational fear.

BTW, you're a moron.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

So, if you are here illegally, it is not illegal.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Water is not wet.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Up is down.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We're ALL immigrants, (except, perhaps the Native Americans, and they're only a few millennia Native, anyhow!), and to adopt the stance that those less fortunate have no right to the opportunities we all enjoy, is unChristian, at least.

All of my people came here legally via Ellis Island.

My Mom kissed the ground at JFK when her flight landed, even Christ himself would tell you to please go fuck yourself

JFK isn't on Ellis Island, Frank.

Busted.

Busted what??? My grandparents came in through Ellis Island. My Mom arrived at JFK in the 50's

You're contorting yourself to defend criminals

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Up is down.

it's not a crime when a Democrat does it

 

[Correll]

I'd respond that "Wronger" isn't a word, that it's not a "Broad brush generalization fallacy" to say that illegals broke the law, because they wouldn't be illegals if they didn't, that they should leave the country and come here legally as they were supposed to in the first place, and that ignoring that option should have them deported to the middle of the ocean because it's blatant stupidity, and that if they cared about their child, they wouldn't have put themselves and her in this position in the first place. Stupidity: The 8th Wonder of the world, exhibited constantly by illegals jumping the border instead of coming here legally, and wondering why they are deported.

The way you put it, you make it sound like all immigrants have to do is check the "come legally" box and presto, everything's cool. The truth is another matter entirely:
**
No “line” is available for the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants.
Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is generally limited to three different routes: employment, family reunification, or humanitarian protection. While the U.S. immigration system is generous, each of these possibilities is highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements. Most unauthorized immigrants do not have the necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status...**

Source: Why Don’t They Just Get In Line?

Works for me. Go home and don't come back.

I wonder what you'd think if it was -your- family starving on the other side of a border. There's actually a film that presents this type of argument. Have you seen a film called Elesium? Here's the trailer:

An incredibly stupid film. You do realize why you can't have unlimited immigration to a SPACE STATION?!


On a different scale, America can't take in EVERY FUCKING POOR PERSON on the planet, and if we tried we would destroy ourselves.



As it is, our society has suffered terrible harm and will be paying the price for generations.

I wonder if they know we halted immigration for nearly 40 years in the past so as to give the wave that cam in in the early 20th century time to assimilate?

THe don't know ANYTHING, that interferes with the narrative.

As that would undermine their story that Racism is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason that anyone could be against their position, they don't know that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We're ALL immigrants, (except, perhaps the Native Americans, and they're only a few millennia Native, anyhow!), and to adopt the stance that those less fortunate have no right to the opportunities we all enjoy, is unChristian, at least.

All of my people came here legally via Ellis Island.

My Mom kissed the ground at JFK when her flight landed, even Christ himself would tell you to please go fuck yourself

JFK isn't on Ellis Island, Frank.

Busted.

Busted what??? My grandparents came in through Ellis Island. My Mom arrived at JFK in the 50's

You're contorting yourself to defend criminals

I guess he doesn't think you can get to Ellis Island from the airport.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The way you put it, you make it sound like all immigrants have to do is check the "come legally" box and presto, everything's cool. The truth is another matter entirely:
**
No “line” is available for the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants.
Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is generally limited to three different routes: employment, family reunification, or humanitarian protection. While the U.S. immigration system is generous, each of these possibilities is highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements. Most unauthorized immigrants do not have the necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status...**

Source: Why Don’t They Just Get In Line?

Works for me. Go home and don't come back.

I wonder what you'd think if it was -your- family starving on the other side of a border. There's actually a film that presents this type of argument. Have you seen a film called Elesium? Here's the trailer:

An incredibly stupid film. You do realize why you can't have unlimited immigration to a SPACE STATION?!


On a different scale, America can't take in EVERY FUCKING POOR PERSON on the planet, and if we tried we would destroy ourselves.



As it is, our society has suffered terrible harm and will be paying the price for generations.

I wonder if they know we halted immigration for nearly 40 years in the past so as to give the wave that cam in in the early 20th century time to assimilate?

THe don't know ANYTHING, that interferes with the narrative.

As that would undermine their story that Racism is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason that anyone could be against their position, they don't know that.

Not to mention, who even mentioned race, except them?

 

[Correll]

Works for me. Go home and don't come back.

I wonder what you'd think if it was -your- family starving on the other side of a border. There's actually a film that presents this type of argument. Have you seen a film called Elesium? Here's the trailer:

An incredibly stupid film. You do realize why you can't have unlimited immigration to a SPACE STATION?!


On a different scale, America can't take in EVERY FUCKING POOR PERSON on the planet, and if we tried we would destroy ourselves.



As it is, our society has suffered terrible harm and will be paying the price for generations.

I wonder if they know we halted immigration for nearly 40 years in the past so as to give the wave that cam in in the early 20th century time to assimilate?

THe don't know ANYTHING, that interferes with the narrative.

As that would undermine their story that Racism is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason that anyone could be against their position, they don't know that.

Not to mention, who even mentioned race, except them?

Liberals are convinced that they know what you are thinking, better than you do.


And if you disagree, they call you names.

 

[phoenyx]

The way you put it, you make it sound like all immigrants have to do is check the "come legally" box and presto, everything's cool. The truth is another matter entirely:
**
No “line” is available for the vast majority of unauthorized immigrants.
Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is generally limited to three different routes: employment, family reunification, or humanitarian protection. While the U.S. immigration system is generous, each of these possibilities is highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility requirements. Most unauthorized immigrants do not have the necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status...**

Source: Why Don’t They Just Get In Line?

It has to be regulated somehow, or the United States would be overflowing with useless people.

I'm not arguing it shouldn't be- I'm just trying to point out that most unauthorized immigrants never had the the choice to come to the U.S. legally.

Personally, I think there are too many as is, just look at all the Democrats living here.

Very funny .

Then they don't get to come here at all. If there is no path for entry, they stay home or find somewhere else to go.

Found an article I really think you should read. Here's an excerpt:
**
We have all heard the phrase that a parent will do anything for their child. However, for some of the 4.1 million Mexican women living undocumented in the United States, this may mean leaving their child behind while they illegally enter the United States to become a domestic worker. This population of women wants so much to provide for their family that they are willing to leave their children in order to improve the circumstances for them. However, no parent should be forced to make this choice.

There is a huge political debate on both sides of the aisle as whether family reunification should be one of the main goals of immigration laws. While both the Democratic andRepublican parties are hesitant to say anything that devalues the importance of family reunification, neither side is willing to make it the forefront of their immigration platform. However, this is a really important issue and should be addressed more seriously by both sides.

Often time these Mexican mothers are forced through tough economic, as well as social and political, issues to make the hard choice to leave their families behind. ‘“I came here because I didn’t have enough to feed my kids. I had nowhere to live because I was making so little money,”’ said Gloria Garcia, a 43 year old Mexican mother who was forced to part with her children.
**
Read more at: Immigrant mothers making tough choices for their families

It is not our fault or our responsibility that Mexico is a Third World shit hole.

Ah yes, the U.S., just minding its own business, is deluded by immigrants fleeing a system that failed them, that how it goes in your head? The truth has been somewhat different for some time now. For starters, there's Eduardo Galleano's book, written almost half a century ago, but still quite relevant today. Here's an excerpt from Amazon.com's review of the book:
**
Since its U.S. debut a quarter-century ago, this brilliant text has set a new standard for historical scholarship of Latin America. It is also an outstanding political economy, a social and cultural narrative of the highest quality, and perhaps the finest description of primitive capital accumulation since Marx.

Rather than chronology, geography, or political successions, Eduardo Galeano has organized the various facets of Latin American history according to the patterns of five centuries of exploitation. Thus he is concerned with gold and silver, cacao and cotton, rubber and coffee, fruit, hides and wool, petroleum, iron, nickel, manganese, copper, aluminum ore, nitrates, and tin. These are the veins which he traces through the body of the entire continent, up to the Rio Grande and throughout the Caribbean, and all the way to their open ends where they empty into the coffers of wealth in the United States and Europe.
**

Then there's NAFTA:
Globalization and NAFTA Caused Migration from Mexico | Political Research Associates

And let's not forget the Drug War:
How the Drug War Drives Child Migrants to the US Border

 

[Grizz]

go tell mommy and daddy it's wrong to break laws, and America is great, because in many places they'd be dead.

<sniff>

What laws did they break, moron?

Don't let it worry you one bit that the real laws of the United States don't make it a crime for a “removable alien to remain in the United States.”

Indeed, that is perfectly legal. But don't tell racist thugs who are voting for Donald Trump. They only care about mob rule.

Try learning the laws before spouting off with racist fear mongering.

Of course you'll SHOW us what the "real" laws are?

 

[Grizz]

(a) Classes of deportable aliensAny alien (including an alien crewman) in and admitted to the United States shall, upon the order of the Attorney General, be removed if the alien is within one or more of the following classes of deportable aliens:


B) Present in violation of law


Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this chapter or any other law of the United States, or whose nonimmigrant visa (or other documentation authorizing admission into the United States as a nonimmigrant) has been revoked under section 1201(i) of this title, is deportable.

8 U.S. Code § 1227 - Deportable aliens

Is that a "real" law?