Millions could lose access to food stamps under Trump proposal, study finds

[Blues Man]

She has a daughter

Why should it matter if a woman doesn't like
being away from her kids because she has to work
to support her responsibilities

So, it's ok for other people to work full time
to shoulder the responsibilities of those who don't want to

We make it easy for people to be irresponsible
and avoid sacrificing their wants to provide their own needs

I don't like working 2 jobs but I do what I have to do

Working two jobs to provide and wanting to have to do that is two different things. We used to have plenty of jobs where people could support two people working one job.

That is the problem. We don't condemn the greed that caused corporations to take the jobs to China but we condemn the idea that a person shouldn't have to work 65 hours just to buy groceries.

Whoa...who said anything about
working 65 hours just to buy groceries

There are people who don't want to work 1 job to provide
If you can't find a full time job then 2 part time jobs suffice
Whether someone wants to work 2 jobs to provide is irrelevant

The past is behind us, this is now
Things were cheaper, money went farther

The problem is people like to blame the greed they feed
If enough people would have boycotted companies
that would have made a difference

We allowed the jobs to go to China
These companies do not respond to noise they respond to revenue

The idea that people shouldn't have to do
what they don't want to do to take care of their responsibilities
is ridiculous to say the least

If you can't afford getting your nails done, you don't
If you can't afford cable, you watch regular television
If you can't afford the internet, you go to the library or a hot spot
If you can't afford chips, snakes and junk food, you go without
If you can't afford a fancy cell phone, get a government phone

If you can't afford the things you want,
unless the government aka taxpayers, gives you what you need
that's too damn bad

So you repeat the lie that poor people are living high on the hog on food stamps and government assistance.

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

 

[Ame®icano]

I am not a federal employee, I work in an industry where I am subject to random drug tests by the federal government.

Funny how people need to take drug tests to keep a job because of the government however it is wrong to ask those doing nothing and accepting taxpayer money for food and shelter, not to take random drug tests.

Seems backwards to me.

I worked on defense contracts where I had to take the drug test before I was allowed to work on the project. I didn't see anything wrong with that, didn't even questioned it.

 

[Ame®icano]

If a corp moves to another country, they pay the tax rate there & then owe the US the difference in that rate & the US rate. So, how do they save on taxes.

Cheap labor is a reason. They like to pollute.

So your solution is to reduce the minimum wage & allow them to pollute here instead of there? Really?

Not really. They owe to US government tax on profits made in US and tax on money they brought in from outside. If they keep their foreign earned money out, they don't have to pay taxes.

Apple stashed some $250B in cash and assets overseas and refused to bring it in because of high tax rates.

Trump admin offered them a one time deal, to bring money in at lower rate. Had Apple decided to bring all of its overseas cash back to the US, they would have to pay tax rate of 35 percent at the time, which was about $88 billion, minus the taxes paid to foreign governments. With one time deal on 15% tax for money they bring in, they paid $38 billion, and saved $50 billion. Without the deal, they would just keep their money outside.

Interesting how a liberal company would move their money back here for a conservative President and not for the previous liberal President. Looks like liberal corporations are just as greedy as liberals that are on the government dole.

First of, Apple cash reserves in the US were large enough to do business here. They were not desperate to have it here. Second, they didn't do it for the conservative president. They did it because Trump offered them one time lower tax rate. They would do the same if Barry offered them the deal. It's not greed at Apple's side, it was just smart business decision.

 

[pknopp]

In order to get food stamps you have to meet some requirements. One of them is to prove they don't make enough money. Correct?

How do they prove that?

According to you, we can't really ask them to prove it, that would also be unconstitutional, so we should just trust them to their word.

Your complaint is with those who thought it better to not appeal the rulings.

Florida drops bid to require drug tests for welfare applicants

Besides, it doesn't work and costs more than it saves.

What 13 states discovered after spending hundreds of thousands drug testing the poor

You think the push for drug testing is about saving money or about government testing recipients for drugs because... they just want to?

No, it is demanded by the taxpayers who are sick and tired of paying high taxes and supporting parasites. Taxpayers don’t want to support people who don’t want to work, have multiple children out of wedlock and take drugs rather than contribute to society. They should be penalized, not the good people who work hard and pay taxes.

If your neighbor is getting in your backyard ans stealing fruit from your orchid, or vegetables from your garden, and you get fed up with that, what do you do? You build the fence to stop him from doing it. Well, that fence most likely cost you much more than the value of stolen apples or tomatoes, but you build it anyways because you're fed up that someone is taking something that doesn't belong to them, but belongs to you.

Read my link. Very few getting help were on drugs. You can argue for this all day. I do not care because the courts are not going to allow it.

cross the board drug testing for welfare recipients is DISGUSTING----
it is demeaning--------people with a really productive veggie garden
who will not share a few tomatoes and radishes are PIGS

Your perception of "sharing" is rather fucked up. You share something that is yours, at your own will. If you take something without someone's permission, that's steeling.

But let's pit few tomatoes or radishes on the side, and say that neighbor come to your house, take money from your wallet without your permission, is that sharing?

You lefties are totally fucked in the head.

The Fed is creating billions out of nothing. Why is that some people's "wealth" but not others?

 

[Ame®icano]

Your complaint is with those who thought it better to not appeal the rulings.

Florida drops bid to require drug tests for welfare applicants

Besides, it doesn't work and costs more than it saves.

What 13 states discovered after spending hundreds of thousands drug testing the poor

You think the push for drug testing is about saving money or about government testing recipients for drugs because... they just want to?

No, it is demanded by the taxpayers who are sick and tired of paying high taxes and supporting parasites. Taxpayers don’t want to support people who don’t want to work, have multiple children out of wedlock and take drugs rather than contribute to society. They should be penalized, not the good people who work hard and pay taxes.

If your neighbor is getting in your backyard ans stealing fruit from your orchid, or vegetables from your garden, and you get fed up with that, what do you do? You build the fence to stop him from doing it. Well, that fence most likely cost you much more than the value of stolen apples or tomatoes, but you build it anyways because you're fed up that someone is taking something that doesn't belong to them, but belongs to you.

Read my link. Very few getting help were on drugs. You can argue for this all day. I do not care because the courts are not going to allow it.

cross the board drug testing for welfare recipients is DISGUSTING----
it is demeaning--------people with a really productive veggie garden
who will not share a few tomatoes and radishes are PIGS

Your perception of "sharing" is rather fucked up. You share something that is yours, at your own will. If you take something without someone's permission, that's steeling.

But let's pit few tomatoes or radishes on the side, and say that neighbor come to your house, take money from your wallet without your permission, is that sharing?

You lefties are totally fucked in the head.

The Fed is creating billions out of nothing. Why is that some people's "wealth" but not others?

Whose wealth that is, exactly?

 

[pknopp]

Working two jobs to provide and wanting to have to do that is two different things. We used to have plenty of jobs where people could support two people working one job.

That is the problem. We don't condemn the greed that caused corporations to take the jobs to China but we condemn the idea that a person shouldn't have to work 65 hours just to buy groceries.

Whoa...who said anything about
working 65 hours just to buy groceries

There are people who don't want to work 1 job to provide
If you can't find a full time job then 2 part time jobs suffice
Whether someone wants to work 2 jobs to provide is irrelevant

The past is behind us, this is now
Things were cheaper, money went farther

The problem is people like to blame the greed they feed
If enough people would have boycotted companies
that would have made a difference

We allowed the jobs to go to China
These companies do not respond to noise they respond to revenue

The idea that people shouldn't have to do
what they don't want to do to take care of their responsibilities
is ridiculous to say the least

If you can't afford getting your nails done, you don't
If you can't afford cable, you watch regular television
If you can't afford the internet, you go to the library or a hot spot
If you can't afford chips, snakes and junk food, you go without
If you can't afford a fancy cell phone, get a government phone

If you can't afford the things you want,
unless the government aka taxpayers, gives you what you need
that's too damn bad

So you repeat the lie that poor people are living high on the hog on food stamps and government assistance.

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

You pretty much have to have a cell phone or computer to get a job today.

 

[pknopp]

You think the push for drug testing is about saving money or about government testing recipients for drugs because... they just want to?

No, it is demanded by the taxpayers who are sick and tired of paying high taxes and supporting parasites. Taxpayers don’t want to support people who don’t want to work, have multiple children out of wedlock and take drugs rather than contribute to society. They should be penalized, not the good people who work hard and pay taxes.

If your neighbor is getting in your backyard ans stealing fruit from your orchid, or vegetables from your garden, and you get fed up with that, what do you do? You build the fence to stop him from doing it. Well, that fence most likely cost you much more than the value of stolen apples or tomatoes, but you build it anyways because you're fed up that someone is taking something that doesn't belong to them, but belongs to you.

Read my link. Very few getting help were on drugs. You can argue for this all day. I do not care because the courts are not going to allow it.

cross the board drug testing for welfare recipients is DISGUSTING----
it is demeaning--------people with a really productive veggie garden
who will not share a few tomatoes and radishes are PIGS

Your perception of "sharing" is rather fucked up. You share something that is yours, at your own will. If you take something without someone's permission, that's steeling.

But let's pit few tomatoes or radishes on the side, and say that neighbor come to your house, take money from your wallet without your permission, is that sharing?

You lefties are totally fucked in the head.

The Fed is creating billions out of nothing. Why is that some people's "wealth" but not others?

Whose wealth that is, exactly?

It's "ours".

 

[irosie91]

that has nothing to do with food stamps and everything to do with the kid's parents

So poor people are all just lazy.

disabled people TOO

How many truly disabled people are getting kicked off food stamps?

I don't know. I hope not

Yet you imply that I think disabled people are lazy.

HAve you always been such a twat?

just how much do you know about DISABILITY? -----lots of
actually disabled people do not APPEAR disabled. A woman
with five kids under the age of 12 is DISABLED (encumbered)
Why she has five kids is an issue but not ALWAYS a matter of
SLOTH. I agree that willy nilly childbearing should be
addressed. -------but you risk the issue of declared
GENOCIDAL

 

[danielpalos]

There you go again....

The poor can train for better jobs. With over 30 million poor, is every one of them able to train for better jobs?
Are there 30 million unfilled better jobs out there?

Why not let them train at home , practice plumbing carpentry? Will you clean up after the poor for improving them selves and not fine them?

Once again you are looking at small numbers. You need to show us where there are 30 million better jobs that are unfilled

I know I’m in the inner city of Boston and if I studied plumbing on my own I’d probably get fined for all the materials I left in the trash, and arrested for taking jobs because I can’t afford the permits they want me to have

and all the jobs I could create to help my inner city.. you democrats killed jobs

You use the terms “I and my”
Those terms don’t apply to feeding 30 million people

A raise in minimum wage would

/----/ "A raise in minimum wage would"

Wooooha there Nelly Bell. I thought raising the minimum wage to $15 would solve our problems.

Higher paid labor pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why are you so willing to dismantle the Constitution here? We will also note that the places that have done this before it was ruled unconstitutional it made little difference.

The Constitution restricts the government, not private enterprise. The Constitution is clear in that it can not make people prove they are innocent of something.

I can't believe that people still do not understand this.

In order to get food stamps you have to meet some requirements. One of them is to prove they don't make enough money. Correct?

How do they prove that?

According to you, we can't really ask them to prove it, that would also be unconstitutional, so we should just trust them to their word.

Your complaint is with those who thought it better to not appeal the rulings.

Florida drops bid to require drug tests for welfare applicants

Besides, it doesn't work and costs more than it saves.

What 13 states discovered after spending hundreds of thousands drug testing the poor

You think the push for drug testing is about saving money or about government testing recipients for drugs because... they just want to?

No, it is demanded by the taxpayers who are sick and tired of paying high taxes and supporting parasites. Taxpayers don’t want to support people who don’t want to work, have multiple children out of wedlock and take drugs rather than contribute to society. They should be penalized, not the good people who work hard and pay taxes.

If your neighbor is getting in your backyard ans stealing fruit from your orchid, or vegetables from your garden, and you get fed up with that, what do you do? You build the fence to stop him from doing it. Well, that fence most likely cost you much more than the value of stolen apples or tomatoes, but you build it anyways because you're fed up that someone is taking something that doesn't belong to them, but belongs to you.

Read my link. Very few getting help were on drugs. You can argue for this all day. I do not care because the courts are not going to allow it.

cross the board drug testing for welfare recipients is DISGUSTING----
it is demeaning--------people with a really productive veggie garden
who will not share a few tomatoes and radishes are PIGS

Why is it disgusting and demeaning? I work in the private sector, I am required by the federal government to take a random drug test in order to keep my job. I don't find it disgusting or demeaning.

The federal government requires airline pilots to take random drug tests in order to maintain their aviation license. Is that disgusting and demeaning?

 

[Papageorgio]

If a corp moves to another country, they pay the tax rate there & then owe the US the difference in that rate & the US rate. So, how do they save on taxes.

Cheap labor is a reason. They like to pollute.

So your solution is to reduce the minimum wage & allow them to pollute here instead of there? Really?

Not really. They owe to US government tax on profits made in US and tax on money they brought in from outside. If they keep their foreign earned money out, they don't have to pay taxes.

Apple stashed some $250B in cash and assets overseas and refused to bring it in because of high tax rates.

Trump admin offered them a one time deal, to bring money in at lower rate. Had Apple decided to bring all of its overseas cash back to the US, they would have to pay tax rate of 35 percent at the time, which was about $88 billion, minus the taxes paid to foreign governments. With one time deal on 15% tax for money they bring in, they paid $38 billion, and saved $50 billion. Without the deal, they would just keep their money outside.

Interesting how a liberal company would move their money back here for a conservative President and not for the previous liberal President. Looks like liberal corporations are just as greedy as liberals that are on the government dole.

First of, Apple cash reserves in the US were large enough to do business here. They were not desperate to have it here. Second, they didn't do it for the conservative president. They did it because Trump offered them one time lower tax rate. They would do the same if Barry offered them the deal. It's not greed at Apple's side, it was just smart business decision.

I fully agree with you and Apple was smart. It seems to me liberals would not understand such a simplistic reality. I was trying to frame it so they would understand it.

 

[Blues Man]

Whoa...who said anything about
working 65 hours just to buy groceries

There are people who don't want to work 1 job to provide
If you can't find a full time job then 2 part time jobs suffice
Whether someone wants to work 2 jobs to provide is irrelevant

The past is behind us, this is now
Things were cheaper, money went farther

The problem is people like to blame the greed they feed
If enough people would have boycotted companies
that would have made a difference

We allowed the jobs to go to China
These companies do not respond to noise they respond to revenue

The idea that people shouldn't have to do
what they don't want to do to take care of their responsibilities
is ridiculous to say the least

If you can't afford getting your nails done, you don't
If you can't afford cable, you watch regular television
If you can't afford the internet, you go to the library or a hot spot
If you can't afford chips, snakes and junk food, you go without
If you can't afford a fancy cell phone, get a government phone

If you can't afford the things you want,
unless the government aka taxpayers, gives you what you need
that's too damn bad

So you repeat the lie that poor people are living high on the hog on food stamps and government assistance.

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

You pretty much have to have a cell phone or computer to get a job today.

Use the computer at the library

 

[Cellblock2429]

Why not let them train at home , practice plumbing carpentry? Will you clean up after the poor for improving them selves and not fine them?

Once again you are looking at small numbers. You need to show us where there are 30 million better jobs that are unfilled

I know I’m in the inner city of Boston and if I studied plumbing on my own I’d probably get fined for all the materials I left in the trash, and arrested for taking jobs because I can’t afford the permits they want me to have

and all the jobs I could create to help my inner city.. you democrats killed jobs

You use the terms “I and my”
Those terms don’t apply to feeding 30 million people

A raise in minimum wage would

/----/ "A raise in minimum wage would"

Wooooha there Nelly Bell. I thought raising the minimum wage to $15 would solve our problems.

Higher paid labor pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

/——/ So get a better job so you can pay more taxes. Problem solved.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Whoa...who said anything about
working 65 hours just to buy groceries

There are people who don't want to work 1 job to provide
If you can't find a full time job then 2 part time jobs suffice
Whether someone wants to work 2 jobs to provide is irrelevant

The past is behind us, this is now
Things were cheaper, money went farther

The problem is people like to blame the greed they feed
If enough people would have boycotted companies
that would have made a difference

We allowed the jobs to go to China
These companies do not respond to noise they respond to revenue

The idea that people shouldn't have to do
what they don't want to do to take care of their responsibilities
is ridiculous to say the least

If you can't afford getting your nails done, you don't
If you can't afford cable, you watch regular television
If you can't afford the internet, you go to the library or a hot spot
If you can't afford chips, snakes and junk food, you go without
If you can't afford a fancy cell phone, get a government phone

If you can't afford the things you want,
unless the government aka taxpayers, gives you what you need
that's too damn bad

So you repeat the lie that poor people are living high on the hog on food stamps and government assistance.

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

You pretty much have to have a cell phone or computer to get a job today.

/——-/ The Unemployment Office and public library have free computer and internet access. Problem solved.

 

[Blues Man]

So poor people are all just lazy.

disabled people TOO

How many truly disabled people are getting kicked off food stamps?

I don't know. I hope not

Yet you imply that I think disabled people are lazy.

HAve you always been such a twat?

just how much do you know about DISABILITY? -----lots of
actually disabled people do not APPEAR disabled. A woman
with five kids under the age of 12 is DISABLED (encumbered)
Why she has five kids is an issue but not ALWAYS a matter of
SLOTH. I agree that willy nilly childbearing should be
addressed. -------but you risk the issue of declared
GENOCIDAL

If a woman has 5 kids she is healthy as a breeding heifer.

And I never once used the word lazy, or sloth or any other derogatory term for the disabled.

What you have done, you fucking TWAT, is lie about what I posted so you can fabricate a bogus argument

 

[keepitreal]

So you repeat the lie that poor people are living high on the hog on food stamps and government assistance.

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

You pretty much have to have a cell phone or computer to get a job today.

Use the computer at the library

Here in Chicago if you receive ANY government assistance
you get Comcast internet for $10 a month

 

[Crixus]

Millions have already gotten a job and started paying for their own food.

Food taste MUCH better when you pay for it your self with money you made rather then a hand out.

 

[irosie91]

In order to get food stamps you have to meet some requirements. One of them is to prove they don't make enough money. Correct?

How do they prove that?

According to you, we can't really ask them to prove it, that would also be unconstitutional, so we should just trust them to their word.

Your complaint is with those who thought it better to not appeal the rulings.

Florida drops bid to require drug tests for welfare applicants

Besides, it doesn't work and costs more than it saves.

What 13 states discovered after spending hundreds of thousands drug testing the poor

You think the push for drug testing is about saving money or about government testing recipients for drugs because... they just want to?

No, it is demanded by the taxpayers who are sick and tired of paying high taxes and supporting parasites. Taxpayers don’t want to support people who don’t want to work, have multiple children out of wedlock and take drugs rather than contribute to society. They should be penalized, not the good people who work hard and pay taxes.

If your neighbor is getting in your backyard ans stealing fruit from your orchid, or vegetables from your garden, and you get fed up with that, what do you do? You build the fence to stop him from doing it. Well, that fence most likely cost you much more than the value of stolen apples or tomatoes, but you build it anyways because you're fed up that someone is taking something that doesn't belong to them, but belongs to you.

Read my link. Very few getting help were on drugs. You can argue for this all day. I do not care because the courts are not going to allow it.

cross the board drug testing for welfare recipients is DISGUSTING----
it is demeaning--------people with a really productive veggie garden
who will not share a few tomatoes and radishes are PIGS

Why is it disgusting and demeaning? I work in the private sector, I am required by the federal government to take a random drug test in order to keep my job. I don't find it disgusting or demeaning.

The federal government requires airline pilots to take random drug tests in order to maintain their aviation license. Is that disgusting and demeaning?

if you have a very RESPONSIBLE JOB upon which the lives of people
depend----it is LOGICAL that the feds demand drug testing. Testing
impoverished &/or sick people is a suggestion that they are just
depraved and lousy-----and is not worth the expense

 

[irosie91]

ROFLMFAO

No one is entitled to get food stamps
just to free up their own money for things they want
and otherwise could not afford

Things they want like heat ,rent, and medications.

cell phones, TVs computers........

You pretty much have to have a cell phone or computer to get a job today.

Use the computer at the library

Here in Chicago if you receive ANY government assistance
you get Comcast internet for $10 a month

lucky them-------seems like an unnecessary frill to me

 

[Leo123]

Millions could lose access to food stamps under Trump proposal, study finds

Millions of Americans face losing access to food assistance under proposed rule changes by the Trump administration, a new analysis has found.

The changes, if they had been instituted last year, would have resulted in 3.7 million fewer people and 2.1m fewer households receiving the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, known as Snap or food stamps, during an average month, according to the study.

The altered rules would also reduce benefits received by many people, with 2.2m households set to have their average monthly assistance cut by $127. Nearly one million students would lose access to free or discounted lunches.

The poor are an easy target for Cons. Typical bonehead politics.

Oh God...Another 'study' by yet another progressive D.C. 'think tank'.....(Urban Institute) which is really nothing more than a far-left 'progressive' propaganda machine. Maybe if these fucking progressive bureaucrats would stop taking our tax dollars for stupid 'studies' to fund useless programs we'd have more money to buy food. You're such a tool Tommy.