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MLB All-Star Game yanked from Georgia over voting law

Democrats tried the same thing in Arizona when they tried to make their border secure during the
Obama regime. Didn't work out real well for the left.

The Georgia legislature is already discussing ways to revoke tax breaks for Delta Airlines.
 
In the November election which is used as an excuse.

It had no effect on the primary, the Georgia Secretary of State said so, in your article.

Did he prosecute any of them as he claimed he would, if it did turn out to be fraud for any of the 1000?
Your back tracking is shameful. You made a claim. It was bullshit. End of story.
 
Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.
I don't know. You would need to ask New Yorkers who have had the EXACT same law on the books for years.
Other states too.
But I get it - you can't virtue signal when the home state is one of your own.
Can you actually show us the parts of Georgia
Election law that is claimed by you to be EXACTLY THE SAME as New York Election law?

Have you actually compared the two states election law?

Or are you just repeating something your right wing media is pushing?

Or are you saying just one single part of NY election law and Georgia election law???


Regardless of the merits or demerits of the Georgia bill, the facts are that the matter was highly contested. Is it really a smart idea for a business like MLB to take a partisan political stand and tell millions of fans to "fuck off"?
Yes, it is okay, for the sake of the country, and everyone's uninhibited right to vote and choose, their leaders..... Not the leader's right to choose their voters...that does not exist as a right.

MLB is being pretty hypocritical here, however.


They are still refusing to remove the Atlanta team from Georgia and move them to Far Left North Caroliina or Virginia.

If they were serious about voting rights, that would be the least they could do.
They don't want to hurt Georgia, they just want Georgia to stop trying to hurt the minority voters, or a second Jim Crow era... They'd be back in a nano second....

Republicans take a lot of donations from these corporations dissing them now for their nationwide movement to reduce voters that lean democratic or are of color....not just in Georgia....

This is a systematic plan to reduce voting access nationwide, by Republicans.

Wouldn't it be better for MLB to withdraw from Georgia at least until they change- if the MLB was serious?

They can always move back in a nanosecond, no?

In the mean time, they can play their games in a Deep Blue State that follows their corporation's liberal ideology.
 
Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.


Actually, Branch Rickey was a conservative Republican.

The leftists were the ones that opposed breaking the color barrier.

Actually it was white, conservatives that opposed breaking the color barrier.

The lies come pouring in, it was a Republican Branch Rickey who went out of his way to break the Color barrier, Jackie Robinson was a lifelong Republican too, he says so in his own book.

The Jackie Robinson Republicans

Stop lying!

Not sure where the book says that, and I don't see a quote, but I do see this -- in your own link:

>> Robinson supported those Republicans, such as Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits, who championed civil rights, and opposed those in the GOP who ignored black concerns. Thus, in 1960 Robinson campaigned for Richard Nixon in his losing race against John F. Kennedy, citing Nixon’s support for the 1957 Civil Rights Act, which Kennedy* and many other Democrats opposed. And in 1964, Robinson served as deputy national director of the Rockefeller for President campaign, as he had earlier served in Rockefeller’s gubernatorial races. When Barry Goldwater won the nomination, and ignored Robinson, he became a political independent.​
This should have served as an early lesson for the GOP. When a staunch Republican like Jackie Robinson loses faith, it should have raised a red flag about their relationship with the black community. Today’s GOP, which continues to be perceived as an enemy of civil rights, would do well to recall the Robinson story. <<​

{* I was not able to find evidence that JFK opposed the 1957 CRA}

It does seem "he became a political independent" would be at odds with the phrase "lifelong Republican". Since that's all from your own link I guess your link contradicted itself.

J.R. actually anticipated the infamous Southern Strategy, in 1963 --
>> “The danger of the Republican Party being taken over by the lily-whitest conservatives is more serious than many people realize.” <<​

This was when he was souring on Richard Nixon, after pleading with RN to intervene to help Martin Luther King Jr, who had been sent to hard labor --- again in Georgia --- over a traffic ticket. Candidate Nixon passed on the idea, candidate Kennedy didn't.

Moreover, from the same autobiography quoted here, he anticipated Colin Kaepernick:

>> Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first World Series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made. <<​

So yeah, invoking Jackie Robinson here (who btw came from Georgia) is an interesting choice.
 
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Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.


Actually, Branch Rickey was a conservative Republican.

The leftists were the ones that opposed breaking the color barrier.

Actually it was white, conservatives that opposed breaking the color barrier.

The lies come pouring in, it was a Republican Branch Rickey who went out of his way to break the Color barrier, Jackie Robinson was a lifelong Republican too, he says so in his own book.

The Jackie Robinson Republicans

Stop lying!

Not sure where the book says that, and I don't see a quote, but I do see this -- in your own link:

>> Robinson supported those Republicans, such as Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits, who championed civil rights, and opposed those in the GOP who ignored black concerns. Thus, in 1960 Robinson campaigned for Richard Nixon in his losing race against John F. Kennedy, citing Nixon’s support for the 1957 Civil Rights Act, which Kennedy and many other Democrats opposed. And in 1964, Robinson served as deputy national director of the Rockefeller for President campaign, as he had earlier served in Rockefeller’s gubernatorial races. When Barry Goldwater won the nomination,and ignored Robinson,he became a political independent.​
This should have served as an early lesson for the GOP. When a staunch Republican like Jackie Robinson loses faith, it should have raised a red flag about their relationship with the black community. Today’s GOP, which continues to be perceived as an enemy of civil rights, would do well to recall the Robinson story. <<​

It does seem "he became a political independent" would be at odds with the phrase "lifelong Republican". Since that's all from your own link I guess your link contradicted itself.

J.R. actually anticipated the infamous Southern Strategy, in 1963 --
>> “The danger of the Republican Party being taken over by the lily-whitest conservatives is more serious than many people realize.” <<​

This was when he was souring on Richard Nixon, after pleading with RN to intervene to help Martin Luther King Jr, who had been sent to hard labor --- again in Georgia --- over a traffic ticket. Candidate Nixon passed on the idea, candidate Kennedy didn't.

Moreover, from the same autobiography quoted here, he anticipated Colin Kaepernick:

>> Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first World Series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made. <<​

So yeah, invoking Jackie Robinson here (who btw came from Georgia) is an interesting choice.

Ha ha ha, you can't change the fact the Robinson was a Republican for most of his life, and that he along with another Republican worked together to break the color barrier. They did it as REPUBLICANS! :oops-28:

I was a Democrat for years, then changed to Independent in the early 1990's, NEVER was a republican at anytime, people do change because of something, but Robinson was NEVER a Democrat.... :rolleyes:

Thus you have little here to work with but YOU can't deny that it was the Republicans who broke the color barrier..... :oops-28:

By the way I read my link, you are dishonest here.....
 
Major league baseball shot itself in the head with this woke move.
Millions now have a very real reason to ignore the sport other than the fact that it is highly over priced.
boring and it's overly long season.

Yeah politicizing an ENTERTAINMENT venue is a stupid decision.

Now I just found a reason to stop watching the games, which was for Entertainment fun and something to relax with, now I have to put up with politics there, forget it!

:cuckoo:

Well I guess the MLB season is over since you aren't going to watch anymore.
just out of curiosity, do you ever type anything that isnt stupid, ignorrant, or ......stupid?

Well that just shows how dumb you are since you dumb ass keeps replying.
actually, you are the dumb ass. mine wasn't a reply...duh...it was a question....duh...obviously you are not able to distinguish between the 2....
 
When will pro sports learn from Michael Jordan that “Republicans buy sneakers too”.
Yes. But Dems have the power to bail out the likes of MLB...and the airline companies.
This is the crux.
You want a bailout??? You have to dance to Biden the organ grinder.

yep. Only a matter of time until Home Depot, Coca Cola, and Delta cry uncle after being spanked repeatedly with the woke stick.
 
Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.
I don't know. You would need to ask New Yorkers who have had the EXACT same law on the books for years.
Other states too.
But I get it - you can't virtue signal when the home state is one of your own.
Can you actually show us the parts of Georgia
Election law that is claimed by you to be EXACTLY THE SAME as New York Election law?

Have you actually compared the two states election law?

Or are you just repeating something your right wing media is pushing?

Or are you saying just one single part of NY election law and Georgia election law???


Regardless of the merits or demerits of the Georgia bill, the facts are that the matter was highly contested. Is it really a smart idea for a business like MLB to take a partisan political stand and tell millions of fans to "fuck off"?
Yes, it is okay, for the sake of the country, and everyone's uninhibited right to vote and choose, their leaders..... Not the leader's right to choose their voters...that does not exist as a right.

MLB is being pretty hypocritical here, however.


They are still refusing to remove the Atlanta team from Georgia and move them to Far Left North Caroliina or Virginia.

If they were serious about voting rights, that would be the least they could do.
They don't want to hurt Georgia, they just want Georgia to stop trying to hurt the minority voters, or a second Jim Crow era... They'd be back in a nano second....

Republicans take a lot of donations from these corporations dissing them now for their nationwide movement to reduce voters that lean democratic or are of color....not just in Georgia....

This is a systematic plan to reduce voting access nationwide, by Republicans.
This is a systematic plan to voting integrity, with complete access, nationwide,by every ELIGIBLE voter.
not the stuffing of illegal votes,, fraudulant voting machines, owned by a friend of a friend of a demonRAT, DOMINION , to be exact, hooked to the internet.
the people of georgia want TRUTH, not demonRAT truth.
 
NEW YORK (AP) — Atlanta lost Major League Baseball’s summer All-Star Game on Friday over the league’s objections to sweeping changes to Georgia voting laws that critics — including the CEOs of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines and Coca-Cola — have condemned as being too restrictive.

The decision to pull the July 13 game from Atlanta’s Truist Park amounts to the first economic backlash against Georgia for the voting law that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp quickly signed into law March 25.

Kemp has insisted the law’s critics have mischaracterized what it does...


Clearly Baseball wants to go the way of other sports, alienating their fan base, instead of taking care of business...MLB joins the ranks of other businesses in Atlanta such as Delta, and Coca Cola in embrassing the "Woke" culture today, and insulting half the country....Is this a good move? What say you? Should business have a say in legislation that doesn't have anything to do with their business? And what of liberal progressives who were just 5 minutes ago railing against corporations now defending their actions....?
Awesome.
 
The civil rights acts of 1864-65 overturned the Jim Crow laws the Democrats developed long ago and fought to maintain it for a long time since.

That's kind of impossible since "Jim Crow laws" weren't even established until well AFTER the Civil War. Perhaps you meant 1964-65?

Also as already stated elsewhere, if "Jim Crow laws" had been a political party thing rather than a state/local level regional thing, then such laws would have existed in, say, Minnesota or California. It's just like the fake argument about how many of what party voted for the CRA of 1964; it's deliberately misstating who's who.

Further, more apropos to the instant case than any of these CRAs would be Amendment XXIV, passed 1962 and ratified January 1964, six months prior to LBJ's CRA, which states:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay poll tax or other tax.

"Poll taxes" had been one of several methods to suppress black (and poor white/poor in general) voting. If you could pay the poll tax, you could vote and technically your right to vote was preserved. Just as in Georgia's next election if you can stand in line without dehydrating you can vote then too.

Their right to vote still exist [sic] in Georgia, unless you want to lie about that too?

Just as it still "exist[ed]" with the poll tax, the literacy tests, etc.
 
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Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.


Actually, Branch Rickey was a conservative Republican.

The leftists were the ones that opposed breaking the color barrier.

Oh this is great. No, do go on, please. I love watching pretzels make themselves.
Tell the class who these "leftists" were that opposed breaking the color barrier. Ty Cobb maybe? He was a lefty batter. He was from Georgia too.


I don't know Ty Cobb's political alliances at all.

But he supported the idea of breaking the color barrier.


You didn't touch the question.

The question was, **WHO** are these "leftists" that **YOU** claimed were opposing breaking the color barrier?

STILL waitiing.
 
For one the dumb shit about you can be arrested for giving someone standing in line something to eat or drink. That is asinine.

The bill gives the state legislature the power to appoint the chair of the State Election Board, a role that was previously filled by the Georgia secretary of state. .
The Georgia Secretary of State, Bill Raffensperger, is a Rino snake. Looks like the state legislature is
on the ball.

And what is a "Rino"?

You DO understand that when you're hired (elected) to be the state's Secretary of State, that you work for the STATE, not for a political party ---- you know that, right?
 
Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.
I don't know. You would need to ask New Yorkers who have had the EXACT same law on the books for years.
Other states too.
But I get it - you can't virtue signal when the home state is one of your own.
Can you actually show us the parts of Georgia
Election law that is claimed by you to be EXACTLY THE SAME as New York Election law?

Have you actually compared the two states election law?

Or are you just repeating something your right wing media is pushing?

Or are you saying just one single part of NY election law and Georgia election law???


Regardless of the merits or demerits of the Georgia bill, the facts are that the matter was highly contested. Is it really a smart idea for a business like MLB to take a partisan political stand and tell millions of fans to "fuck off"?

--and what "partisan political stand" was that? That citizens should have access to the ballot box?

Put this question in your queue. You're already behind.
 
NEW YORK (AP) — Atlanta lost Major League Baseball’s summer All-Star Game on Friday over the league’s objections to sweeping changes to Georgia voting laws that critics — including the CEOs of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines and Coca-Cola — have condemned as being too restrictive.

The decision to pull the July 13 game from Atlanta’s Truist Park amounts to the first economic backlash against Georgia for the voting law that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp quickly signed into law March 25.

Kemp has insisted the law’s critics have mischaracterized what it does...


Clearly Baseball wants to go the way of other sports, alienating their fan base, instead of taking care of business...MLB joins the ranks of other businesses in Atlanta such as Delta, and Coca Cola in embrassing the "Woke" culture today, and insulting half the country....Is this a good move? What say you? Should business have a say in legislation that doesn't have anything to do with their business? And what of liberal progressives who were just 5 minutes ago railing against corporations now defending their actions....?

Businesses don't have a say in legislature, per se. But they can decide to do business elsewhere.


Indeed they can.

But it doesn't seem like such a smart idea from a public relations point of view, after they promoted and promised an event to a community to suddenly elect not to have it.

People went through a whole year with no baseball due to the pandemic, alienating legions of fans who have gotten used to not attending already seems to me, to be uber-stupid.

Exactly what fans would be "alienated" by Baseball defending their access to the vote?

Diga me Tonto, would Baseball (or anybody else) attract more customers if it came out in favor of, say, poll taxes? Or literacy tests?
 
Duh, that was the primary.... they had problem with mailing ballots out etc...

The secretary of state did not have any in the November election.

Try again.
You claimed Georgia had NO FRAUD AT ALL!
You lied and now you want to move the goal posts! No dice.
And what happens in the primary has an effect in November.

Sure does. You might then want to essplain to the class why the Republican Party was running around cancelling state primaries even though there were three OTHER nationally-known candidates running in it.

Of course then again you might not want to take that task on, mightn't you.
 
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NEW YORK (AP) — Atlanta lost Major League Baseball’s summer All-Star Game on Friday over the league’s objections to sweeping changes to Georgia voting laws that critics — including the CEOs of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines and Coca-Cola — have condemned as being too restrictive.

The decision to pull the July 13 game from Atlanta’s Truist Park amounts to the first economic backlash against Georgia for the voting law that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp quickly signed into law March 25.

Kemp has insisted the law’s critics have mischaracterized what it does...


Clearly Baseball wants to go the way of other sports, alienating their fan base, instead of taking care of business...MLB joins the ranks of other businesses in Atlanta such as Delta, and Coca Cola in embrassing the "Woke" culture today, and insulting half the country....Is this a good move? What say you? Should business have a say in legislation that doesn't have anything to do with their business? And what of liberal progressives who were just 5 minutes ago railing against corporations now defending their actions....?
Republicans all about FREE MARKET except when it's used against them

When the movie industry threatened to take a huge number of jobs out of Georgia over anti-homosexuality legislation, many conservatives said "Fine, take your stuff and go". But now it is an outrage when the MLB does something similar?

Apples and oranges.

Most conservatives were already pretty much anti-Hollywood anyway, so it was more of a 'don't let the door hit you in the ass' kind of thing.
With baseball, conservatives being mostly older adults, are likely fans of baseball, so they're pissed when the MLB goes the way of the 'woke' crowd.
 
Are you upset that they are actually against Jim Crow 2.0. It was folks like you that were pissed when they integrated baseball, so it is just par for the course.


Actually, Branch Rickey was a conservative Republican.

The leftists were the ones that opposed breaking the color barrier.

Actually it was white, conservatives that opposed breaking the color barrier.

The lies come pouring in, it was a Republican Branch Rickey who went out of his way to break the Color barrier, Jackie Robinson was a lifelong Republican too, he says so in his own book.

The Jackie Robinson Republicans

Stop lying!

Not sure where the book says that, and I don't see a quote, but I do see this -- in your own link:

>> Robinson supported those Republicans, such as Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits, who championed civil rights, and opposed those in the GOP who ignored black concerns. Thus, in 1960 Robinson campaigned for Richard Nixon in his losing race against John F. Kennedy, citing Nixon’s support for the 1957 Civil Rights Act, which Kennedy and many other Democrats opposed. And in 1964, Robinson served as deputy national director of the Rockefeller for President campaign, as he had earlier served in Rockefeller’s gubernatorial races. When Barry Goldwater won the nomination,and ignored Robinson,he became a political independent.​
This should have served as an early lesson for the GOP. When a staunch Republican like Jackie Robinson loses faith, it should have raised a red flag about their relationship with the black community. Today’s GOP, which continues to be perceived as an enemy of civil rights, would do well to recall the Robinson story. <<​

It does seem "he became a political independent" would be at odds with the phrase "lifelong Republican". Since that's all from your own link I guess your link contradicted itself.

J.R. actually anticipated the infamous Southern Strategy, in 1963 --
>> “The danger of the Republican Party being taken over by the lily-whitest conservatives is more serious than many people realize.” <<​

This was when he was souring on Richard Nixon, after pleading with RN to intervene to help Martin Luther King Jr, who had been sent to hard labor --- again in Georgia --- over a traffic ticket. Candidate Nixon passed on the idea, candidate Kennedy didn't.

Moreover, from the same autobiography quoted here, he anticipated Colin Kaepernick:

>> Today, as I look back on that opening game of my first World Series, I must tell you that it was Mr. Rickey’s drama and that I was only a principal actor. As I write this twenty years later, I cannot stand and sing the anthem. I cannot salute the flag; I know that I am a black man in a white world. In 1972, in 1947, at my birth in 1919, I know that I never had it made. <<​

So yeah, invoking Jackie Robinson here (who btw came from Georgia) is an interesting choice.

Ha ha ha, you can't change the fact the Robinson was a Republican for most of his life, and that he along with another Republican worked together to break the color barrier. They did it as REPUBLICANS! :oops-28:

Uhnh nnnnnnno. They didn't. They did it as baseball people. One as a player, the other as a GM. Breaking the "gentlemen's agreement" never required any politics at all. Prove me wrong. Show the class where anybody's political party made that color line go away. For that matter show the class where anybody's political party kept it there for 60 years in the first place. Especially considering there were no MLB teams in the South until 1966.

This should be fun.

I was a Democrat for years, then changed to Independent in the early 1990's, NEVER was a republican [sic] at anytime, people do change because of something, but Robinson was NEVER a Democrat.... :rolleyes:

Didn't say he was, wouldn't know and wouldn't care as it is (see above) IRRELEVANT. As is your own history. However it was **YOU** who wrote, on this board in this thread, that JR was a, quote, "lifelong Republican", and then presented a link that contradicted that. All I did was read your link. You made a claim and shot it in the foot, all in the same post. I guess it's a talent.


Thus you have little here to work with but YOU can't deny that it was the Republicans who broke the color barrier..... :oops-28:

Sure I can. ANYBODY can. Another job for Captain Obvious.

"Republican" is not some kind of species. It's a political party. It's used for running for an office. And once AGAIN there was no political party, no election, no referendum, no political office, nothing political in the world at all, that broke the baseball color line. People IN baseball did that, by defying the unwritten "gentlemen's agreement". Which was never a law and never a political position. And ergo required no politics and no parties to either sustain or abolish.

Again --- prove me wrong.

By the way I read my link, you are dishonest here.....

I actually QUOTED your link. Verbatim.

But hey since you're so fond of Ass-ociation Fallacies you might want to consider that Bill Veeck was positioned to do the Branch Rickey before Rickey did it. He described getting into position to buy the sad-sack Phillies in 1943 and stock it with players from the Negro Leagues. Aaaand cut mad scramble to find out what Bill Veeck's political party affiliation was, and brace yourself for the possibility that like most people --------- he didn't have one. Because (AGAIN) you don't need a political party to run a baseball team. Technically you don't even need one to run for office (e.g. Bernie Sanders, Angus King). On the other hand if you're not running for office, a political party affiliation gives you no benefit whatsoever. And that's why more people have no party than have either a "Democrat" or "Republican" label. The same reason people who live in Wyoming don't tend to own yachts. There's no point.
 
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NEW YORK (AP) — Atlanta lost Major League Baseball’s summer All-Star Game on Friday over the league’s objections to sweeping changes to Georgia voting laws that critics — including the CEOs of Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines and Coca-Cola — have condemned as being too restrictive.

The decision to pull the July 13 game from Atlanta’s Truist Park amounts to the first economic backlash against Georgia for the voting law that Republican Gov. Brian Kemp quickly signed into law March 25.

Kemp has insisted the law’s critics have mischaracterized what it does...


Clearly Baseball wants to go the way of other sports, alienating their fan base, instead of taking care of business...MLB joins the ranks of other businesses in Atlanta such as Delta, and Coca Cola in embrassing the "Woke" culture today, and insulting half the country....Is this a good move? What say you? Should business have a say in legislation that doesn't have anything to do with their business? And what of liberal progressives who were just 5 minutes ago railing against corporations now defending their actions....?

Your half of the country are Nazis. I don't give a damn about you people. You are the tyrants who want to cheat because you can't win honestly.


"Your half of the country are Nazis"


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