OohPooPahDoo
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- May 11, 2011
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The 17th Amendment is irrelevant.
Irrelevant to what? It sets the length of a Senator's term to 6 years, in no uncertain terms. You can't recall someone without shortening their term.
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The 17th Amendment is irrelevant.
Yes it it.I didn't say there wasn't an amendment process. I said recalling a U.S. Senator is not allowed by the Constitution.
Go read Article 1, Section 4, for comprehension.
The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives , shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof ; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.
Recall of Legislators and the Removal of
Members of Congress from Offic
http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0E,*PL[:#0
FROM THIS LINK IT'S NOT CLEAR THE TENTH AMENDMENT WAS MENTION
There were discussions when the Constitution was being debated. But not voted on in the Constitution.
It's irrelevant to the fact that:
The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives , shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof ; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.
Article 1, Section 4, Constitution for the united States.
Article I | U.S. Constitution | LII / Legal Information Institute
Fo dose of you in da bayou, dat means dat da state getsta choose how dey gonna 'lect dere politishuns, up to and 'cludin' if dey gonna haves condishuns fer recall 'lecshuns.
Length of term can be truncated by recall/impeachment terms set up by the states.
Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
Yes it does...States prescribe the election conditions....Period.
Deal with it.
Length of term can be truncated by recall/impeachment terms set up by the states.
It doesn't say that in the Constitution. The only way provided for a length of a Senator's term to be shortened is by expulsion by 2/3 vote of the Senate (other than the obvious other two ways - resignation or death)Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
You're making shit up that isn't there. The Founders considered and rejected a recall provision in the Constitution.
You just answered my earlier question...You are being obtuse on purpose.
Length of term can be truncated by recall/impeachment terms set up by the states.
It doesn't say that in the Constitution. The only way provided for a length of a Senator's term to be shortened is by expulsion by 2/3 vote of the Senate (other than the obvious other two ways - resignation or death)Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
You're making shit up that isn't there. The Founders considered and rejected a recall provision in the Constitution.
Your problem poopy, is you think that if it isn't mentioned it can't be done like in your socialist utopias. Here in the USA if it isn't mentioned it is allowed. Thus if the Constitution doesn't specifically say anything about recalls, they are allowed pursuant to the 10th amendment.
Look, it's really a stupid thing to be arguing about, whether the states have this authority. It's arguable that they do, but it's also perfectly clear that Congress can terminate it any time they feel a need. Just pass an act of Congress saying "no recall of Senators," get Obama to sign it, and poof! No recall. That could happen faster than a recall effort itself could bear fruit.
YEP.Length of term can be truncated by recall/impeachment terms set up by the states.
It doesn't say that in the Constitution. The only way provided for a length of a Senator's term to be shortened is by expulsion by 2/3 vote of the Senate (other than the obvious other two ways - resignation or death)Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
You're making shit up that isn't there. The Founders considered and rejected a recall provision in the Constitution.
Your problem poopy, is you think that if it isn't mentioned it can't be done like in your socialist utopias. Here in the USA if it isn't mentioned it is allowed. Thus if the Constitution doesn't specifically say anything about recalls, they are allowed pursuant to the 10th amendment.
You just answered my earlier question...You are being obtuse on purpose.
I'm sorry, you're reading something into the Constitution that just isn't there. Either that or you are just very stupid. You are confusing a state's right to determine when and where elections are held - which is a right that exists - with a right to shorten a Senator's term - which is a right that does not exist.
There was a movement to recall Senator Menendez in New Jersey last year and the NJ Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional.
Court kills Robert Menendez recall push - Alex Isenstadt - POLITICO.com
You just answered my earlier question...You are being obtuse on purpose.
I'm sorry, you're reading something into the Constitution that just isn't there. Either that or you are just very stupid. You are confusing a state's right to determine when and where elections are held - which is a right that exists - with a right to shorten a Senator's term - which is a right that does not exist.
I'm afraid that YOU lose this round skippy. You should have stopped while YOU thought YOU were ahead.
Revisionist history isn't recognized.