Moral Degenerates vs Christian Values

[Katzndogz]

There is nothing wrong with western civilization, and whatever 'values' there are, it doesn't matter if they are 'secular' or 'christian', as both serve society well.

People are trying to find fault where there is none, as if society can't adapt to new issues and philosophical points of view.

I would be more worried about societies that can't adapt, and just stew away till they explode into ethnic cleansing, genocide, persecution of minorities, and all those other terrible things that happen in closed societies where there is only one way to live, and only one way to do things.

If you don't like homosexuality, evolution, religion, communism, socialism, capitalism, government, taxes, cats, dogs, aliens, meat, spinach, flu shots, or secular teaching. You do have a choice, and that is teaching kids yourself.

Try doing that in closed societies like Russia, China, and parts of the Middle East - and you could get arrested, sent to prison, or shot.

Russia encourages home schooling. 1/3 of the children in Russia are home schooled. That's because Russia is a free country and we only say we are.

 

[konradv]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Well, an airing out couldn't hurt. When I see the Democratic Party coronation of a proven corrupt 1% er and proven liar I just have to admit, it worries me in regards to the future health and future of America.

Proven? How about posting this so-called proof? Like Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, I'm sure it's all wishful thinking BS.

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

 

[konradv]

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

Translation: I'm going to believe what I believe regardless of the facts.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Well, an airing out couldn't hurt. When I see the Democratic Party coronation of a proven corrupt 1% er and proven liar I just have to admit, it worries me in regards to the future health and future of America.

Proven? How about posting this so-called proof? Like Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, I'm sure it's all wishful thinking BS.

PROOF??

There's no place for PROOF in the RW nutter agenda.

They just keep telling the same lies, over and over, until they morph into facts.

Its The RW Way Of Things.

Proof means nothing to you, why try to give the impression that it does?

 

[Lumpy 1]

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

Translation: I'm going to believe what I believe regardless of the facts.

Poor translation ... pathetic really...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

I agree. MYOB. None ofour business what consenting adults are doing together or who they marry.

And yet, if everyone minds their own business, would we find out about the horrible abuses the fundies heap on their kids?

Duggars, the nutters in N or S Carolina whose kids don't have food and sleep under a tarp, the monsters who believe in beating their kids bloody and so many others.

Where do we draw the line so we don't end up hearing about some crazy killing their kid because they were possessed by the devil?

 

[Katzndogz]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

Are you trying to say that gays mind their own business?

A gay teacher didn't really read a story to a third grade class about two homosexual boys.

Bakers, photographers and florists haven't really been sued.

Lesbians didn't really complain about the jeweler's opinion after he was bullied into making their rings.

A gay couple really didn't sue someone because they wouldn't offer up their own home for a gay wedding.

When gays start minding their own business it can be discussed.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

I agree. MYOB. None ofour business what consenting adults are doing together or who they marry.

And yet, if everyone minds their own business, would we find out about the horrible abuses the fundies heap on their kids?

Duggars, the nutters in N or S Carolina whose kids don't have food and sleep under a tarp, the monsters who believe in beating their kids bloody and so many others.

Where do we draw the line so we don't end up hearing about some crazy killing their kid because they were possessed by the devil?

Activist Gays have no tolerance of religious faith, sheesh, isn't that obvious? Do you really need the government to tell you that you love someone and wish to spend the rest of your life with them and who's stopping you from doing just that??

 

[Syriusly]

What's best for America?

I'm going with the Christian philosophy/beliefs of right and wrong over the just anything goes chaos and consistant failures of liberal Democratic Party decadence.

Well I am going for the Liberal beliefs of right and wrong, versus the Conservative Christian philosophy of moral condemnation and government intrusion into adults personal lives while privately indulging in the behavior that they condemn.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Which Christianity are we talking about?

 

[Syriusly]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

I agree. MYOB. None ofour business what consenting adults are doing together or who they marry.

And yet, if everyone minds their own business, would we find out about the horrible abuses the fundies heap on their kids?

Duggars, the nutters in N or S Carolina whose kids don't have food and sleep under a tarp, the monsters who believe in beating their kids bloody and so many others.

Where do we draw the line so we don't end up hearing about some crazy killing their kid because they were possessed by the devil?

Activist Gays have no tolerance of religious faith, sheesh, isn't that obvious?

Hmmm

Lets compare tolerance shall we? Tolerance of 'religious faith' versus tolerance of 'sexual preference'

Conservative Christians: Have advocated that homosexuals be imprisoned or otherwise criminally prosecuted for most of the last 1000 years.

'Activist Gays': Have demanded that the laws that say do not discriminate against Christians, blacks or homosexuals be enforced even when Christians want to discriminate.

Conservative Christians: Have sent American ministers to Africa to advocate for criminal penalties against homosexuals, resulting in among other things, death penalties being passed for homosexuals.

'Activist Gays': Have advocated boycotts of business's for anti-gay messages- even when they are Christians

Conservative Christians: Have advocated boycotts of business's for pro-gay messages.

 

[Syriusly]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

That's your bugaboo. Co-existence is possible if everyone just minds their own business. Otherwise, you sound no different than the mullahs.

Are you trying to say that gays mind their own business?

A gay teacher didn't really read a story to a third grade class about two homosexual boys.

Bakers, photographers and florists haven't really been sued.

Lesbians didn't really complain about the jeweler's opinion after he was bullied into making their rings.

A gay couple really didn't sue someone because they wouldn't offer up their own home for a gay wedding.

When gays start minding their own business it can be discussed.

Are you trying to say that Christians mind their own business?

That Christians haven't been attacking homosexuals, physically and legally for the last 1,000 years?
That Christians haven't passed laws targeting homosexuals?
That Christians haven't led boycotts against business's for being too friendly to gays?

When Christians start minding their own business it can be discussed.

 

[Syriusly]

There is nothing wrong with western civilization, and whatever 'values' there are, it doesn't matter if they are 'secular' or 'christian', as both serve society well.

People are trying to find fault where there is none, as if society can't adapt to new issues and philosophical points of view.

I would be more worried about societies that can't adapt, and just stew away till they explode into ethnic cleansing, genocide, persecution of minorities, and all those other terrible things that happen in closed societies where there is only one way to live, and only one way to do things.

If you don't like homosexuality, evolution, religion, communism, socialism, capitalism, government, taxes, cats, dogs, aliens, meat, spinach, flu shots, or secular teaching. You do have a choice, and that is teaching kids yourself.

Try doing that in closed societies like Russia, China, and parts of the Middle East - and you could get arrested, sent to prison, or shot.

Russia encourages home schooling. 1/3 of the children in Russia are home schooled. That's because Russia is a free country and we only say we are.

LOL.....oh my god.......really- can I encourage you to move immediately to Russia- 'land of the free' in your mind?

 

[Syriusly]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

The Christian far right sure seem intent on making that so.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Well, an airing out couldn't hurt. When I see the Democratic Party coronation of a proven corrupt 1% er and proven liar I just have to admit, it worries me in regards to the future health and future of America.

Proven? How about posting this so-called proof? Like Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, I'm sure it's all wishful thinking BS.

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

So when a Quaker for example expresses the belief that he ought not have to pay taxes that go to military spending, based on his Christian faith,

is that what you're talking about? Should he get an exemption?

 

[Lumpy 1]

What's best for America?

I'm going with the Christian philosophy/beliefs of right and wrong over the just anything goes chaos and consistant failures of liberal Democratic Party decadence.

Well I am going for the Liberal beliefs of right and wrong, versus the Conservative Christian philosophy of moral condemnation and government intrusion into adults personal lives while privately indulging in the behavior that they condemn.

No doubt myopic rationalizations but I appreciated the laugh, thanks.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Well, an airing out couldn't hurt. When I see the Democratic Party coronation of a proven corrupt 1% er and proven liar I just have to admit, it worries me in regards to the future health and future of America.

Proven? How about posting this so-called proof? Like Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, I'm sure it's all wishful thinking BS.

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

So when a Quaker for example expresses the belief that he ought not have to pay taxes that go to military spending, based on his Christian faith,

is that what you're talking about? Should he get an exemption?

I'd like to hear your answers on this first if you wouldn't mind.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You've lived through it and you've made your rationalizations, don't bother trying to waste my time convincing you otherwise. Your choice is moral degeneracy is best for America in case you didn't know.

Translation: I'm going to believe what I believe regardless of the facts.

Check it out.

He says the same thing to everybody who shows his lies for what they are.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Just admit that the Christian right and the secular left can no longer coexist.

The Christian far right sure seem intent on making that so.

Seriously...you don't believe your comment is one-sided at best?