More people saved by guns.

[PredFan]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

 

[PredFan]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

 

[PredFan]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

"Could have"
"Would have"
"If"
"Would be"

You are creating an imaginary scenario that is tailor made to fit your fears. Until you can show how anyone was in danger or injured (other than the perps), or cases where an innocent was injured by a good guy with a gun, you have absolutely nothing at all and this clerk is exactly the hero we all know him to be.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

 

[PredFan]

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I don't have too. It is self evi

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

I don't have to, it is self evident that innocents have beenh shot when the target is missed, as anyone who watches the news knows,

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

Wow, brick and mortar stopped being used when they discovered drywall with an aluminum framing. The fake walls you see aren't really bricks at all. Bricks cost too much for construction of a wall that will be moved or removed every time the store changes businesses.

I own a gun to protect myself from the nutz that are carrying guns like you. The chances of being confronted by a Bad Guy blasting away is almost nil. The chances of you shooting another person is much higher than that. There are reasons that many states have the charges of illegal firearm discharge and public endangerment.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

The moron ^^^ doth protest too much.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

The moron ^^^ doth protest too much.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Another good guy with a gun saves lives and property.
T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes

that is a bunch of hogwash

 

[jon_berzerk]

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

the only "might have" the guy misses is

the bad guys with gun might have killed the clerks

 

[PredFan]

I don't have too. It is self evi

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

Correct and spot on. Sadly predan is a dope and lacks any ability to think beyond the talking points he has been told to believe.

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

I don't have to, it is self evident that innocents have beenh shot when the target is missed, as anyone who watches the news knows,

That's just a plain old lie. That's all you have is lies.

Dismissed.

 

[PredFan]

How very ironic.

Here's a thought you idiots aren't able to have:

#lives saved = 1
#innocents injured = 0

There is nothing correct or spot on about his post, and another uneducated parroting hack like you supporting him doesn't change that.

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

Wow, brick and mortar stopped being used when they discovered drywall with an aluminum framing. The fake walls you see aren't really bricks at all. Bricks cost too much for construction of a wall that will be moved or removed every time the store changes businesses.

I own a gun to protect myself from the nutz that are carrying guns like you. The chances of being confronted by a Bad Guy blasting away is almost nil. The chances of you shooting another person is much higher than that. There are reasons that many states have the charges of illegal firearm discharge and public endangerment.

Jesus you gun grabbers are ignorant. They don't build 7-11s out of drywall and aluminum.

Yet none of you liars can show me one single incident where some innocent person was killed while a good guy was trying to stop a bad guy.

Spin, lie and deflect, that is all you have. You are finished until you can prove what you claim.

Dismissed.

 

[PredFan]

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes

that is a bunch of hogwash

Bull shit is all he has.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Here's the problem, gun safety:

1. Treat all guns as though they are loaded.
2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don’t intend to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you’re prepared to fire.
4. Always confirm your target, as well as what’s in front, behind, and around it.

LE is trained on the use of force in crowded urban environments; Civilians are trained at a range. Point #4 is at issue, and your opinions are all biased and all ill considered.

Bull shit. Walls are very good bullet stops. Prove that there were people there that nearly got shot. What you and the guy you are defending are doing is paranoid "what-ifs". FACT is that no one was injured other than the perps, and lives were likely saved.

This thread and others are full of examples where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Can you match them with examples of a good guy with a gun injuring innocents while trying to stop a bad guy?

Go ahead try.

The 9mm and up will pass through the walls of a chain store like a knife though butter. And there might have been hits inside the store. "Everyone hit the ground" is an indication that there WERE others in the store. Only heroes in the movies should be doing this. Next you will say he intentionally hit them in the groin and leg. Sometimes, it's better to just give them the money and let the security cameras help the cops bring them in.

Wrong doofus. Only if the walls of the store are made of drywall only. They don't call them "brick and mortar" stores for nothing.

"Might have" there you go again.

I'm sure there were others inside the store but they didn't get hit so it means that the good guy did know where the others were and took pains to avoid casualties. The FACT remains that no one else got hit.

Security cameras do not act as bullet proof vests. When you are dead, it's too late to draw your weapon.

You are wrong, he is a hero, no innocents were injured, another clear example of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun. You cannot change those facts.

The moron ^^^ doth protest too much.

Very good and very appropriate. I sure miss that show, too bad Nixon and his pals disrespected the spirit of the First Amendment.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The alleged bad guys never fired a shot. But yet the place was riddled with bullet holes. From your own cite:

Do you know just how lucky no innocents weren't hit from this nut with a gun going off like that? He fired multiple times and hit only two. The rest went off target. Bullets don't know the difference between a bad guy or an innocent. The money isn't worth one single innocent. Or even the chance of hitting an innocent.

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes

that is a bunch of hogwash

LEt's look at the law.

“…consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that circumstances exist or that a result will follow… and that disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would exercise in the situation…” 720 ILCS 5/4-6.

14A.60.020 Discharge of a Firearm.
(Amended by Ordinance No. 178428, effective May 26, 2004.)

A. It is unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm in the City or upon its boundaries.

This is where I live.

[
1. Unlawful to fire any firearm, including BB or pellet gun within the city limits, unless (AD):
-- on-duty law enforcement
-- as a part of an authorized class at a shooting range
-- permission is granted by the chief of police
2. Firearm will be confiscated upon any violation of this section.
/QUOTE]

So we have quotes directly out of the laws of 3 states that the sales associate would have been charged with two counts for firing that weapon. And that is if they don't hit anyone or anything.

You will notice that your article doesn't say that the two were armed and brandishing weapons. They were suspected and the associate fired on them. Chances are, the associate will be disassociated from the store and face a ton of civil suits. Not to worry, the two charges that would have been charged if he hadn't hit anyone would be misdemenors and only cost a few hundred bucks. But he hit both parties. This whole thing stinks from the first sentence on. You want to shoot someone, be willing to pay the price. It might be very high like in this case.

 

[PredFan]

i like the part where the two suspects drove themselves to the hospital

where they got arrested

hopefully they will think twice before they rob another store

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes

that is a bunch of hogwash

LEt's look at the law.

“…consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that circumstances exist or that a result will follow… and that disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would exercise in the situation…” 720 ILCS 5/4-6.

14A.60.020 Discharge of a Firearm.
(Amended by Ordinance No. 178428, effective May 26, 2004.)

A. It is unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm in the City or upon its boundaries.

This is where I live.

[
1. Unlawful to fire any firearm, including BB or pellet gun within the city limits, unless (AD):
-- on-duty law enforcement
-- as a part of an authorized class at a shooting range
-- permission is granted by the chief of police
2. Firearm will be confiscated upon any violation of this section.
/QUOTE]

So we have quotes directly out of the laws of 3 states that the sales associate would have been charged with two counts for firing that weapon. And that is if they don't hit anyone or anything.

You will notice that your article doesn't say that the two were armed and brandishing weapons. They were suspected and the associate fired on them. Chances are, the associate will be disassociated from the store and face a ton of civil suits. Not to worry, the two charges that would have been charged if he hadn't hit anyone would be misdemenors and only cost a few hundred bucks. But he hit both parties. This whole thing stinks from the first sentence on. You want to shoot someone, be willing to pay the price. It might be very high like in this case.

ZZZZZZZZzzz......

Wake me when they charge the guy with anything. You need to be providing those examples of innocent bystanders getting shot by good guys with guns because until you do you have exactly zero credibility on anything.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Gun Shot Wounds have that tendency. Let's try real hard not to make the store clerk a hero. It could have gone very badly with all those misses. A bullet has no conscience.

well it didnt go badly

could have gone much worse

had the clerks been at the mercy of the bad guys

Wow, it could have had collateral damage as well. Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes. Misdemeanors but crimes just as well. Or, if he hit any bystanders with his misses (sounds like he unloaded his gun out the barrel) he would be facing Manslaughter chargers.

Most states would have charged the teller with two crimes

that is a bunch of hogwash

LEt's look at the law.

“…consciously disregards a substantial and unjustifiable risk that circumstances exist or that a result will follow… and that disregard constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would exercise in the situation…” 720 ILCS 5/4-6.

14A.60.020 Discharge of a Firearm.
(Amended by Ordinance No. 178428, effective May 26, 2004.)

A. It is unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm in the City or upon its boundaries.

This is where I live.

[
1. Unlawful to fire any firearm, including BB or pellet gun within the city limits, unless (AD):
-- on-duty law enforcement
-- as a part of an authorized class at a shooting range
-- permission is granted by the chief of police
2. Firearm will be confiscated upon any violation of this section.
/QUOTE]

So we have quotes directly out of the laws of 3 states that the sales associate would have been charged with two counts for firing that weapon. And that is if they don't hit anyone or anything.

You will notice that your article doesn't say that the two were armed and brandishing weapons. They were suspected and the associate fired on them. Chances are, the associate will be disassociated from the store and face a ton of civil suits. Not to worry, the two charges that would have been charged if he hadn't hit anyone would be misdemenors and only cost a few hundred bucks. But he hit both parties. This whole thing stinks from the first sentence on. You want to shoot someone, be willing to pay the price. It might be very high like in this case.

ZZZZZZZZzzz......

Wake me when they charge the guy with anything. You need to be providing those examples of innocent bystanders getting shot by good guys with guns because until you do you have exactly zero credibility on anything.

LEt's see. Ever wonder why the State of Texas had a no open carry from 1871 to recently? They got tired of cleaning up the bodies laying around the streets.

No matter how hard you cry, the laws are tightening up. Now go back to sleep.