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[daveman]

14 months of weather is not climate.

According to them one DAY is "climate"!

Unless it's a cold snap, of course.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

14 months of weather is not climate.

the number of "records" doesn't mean squat. One reason, they didn't have such good records in the past. Two, meteorologists can invent new criteria for records that were never used in the past.

They can't win on the global average temperature issue any longer, because that is obviously declining, so they invent some new statistic that they can easily maniuplate.

Yep it's easy to set temp records when you only use weather stations surrounded by acres of tarmac like those at airports. How about using the weather stations out in the boondocks where there is no blacktop? OOOOOPPPs! Might not get the results they want now would they.


What a bunch of tools they are.

Why not their data doesn't matter because they will just discard it when their peers want to review it.

 

[RollingThunder]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

 

[daveman]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

No one's saying the climate isn't changing, dumbass.

We're saying man has little to do with it, your emotionalism and fear-mongering notwithstanding.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

Rolling turd, more like running squirt we've always had climate, it's called fall winter spring summer. The earth cools and warms as it pleases. Did you find that discarded data yet?

 

[RollingThunder]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

No one's saying the climate isn't changing, dumbass.

We're saying man has little to do with it, your emotionalism and fear-mongering notwithstanding.

Well sure, you and your denier cult butt-buddies say that, but then you're all ignorant brainwashed retards with your heads wedged firmly up your asses so what you say is just meaningless noise. The world scientific community says that the current abrupt warming trend and the climate changes produced by that warming are definitely being caused by mankind's activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation. Too bad you and your fellow cultists are too stupid and poorly educated to be able to understand the science or to realize how badly you've been duped by the people with a huge financial stake in selling fossil fuels.

 

[RollingThunder]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

Rolling turd, more like running squirt we've always had climate, it's called fall winter spring summer. The earth cools and warms as it pleases. Did you find that discarded data yet?

Wow, bigshthd, you sure are stupid! So stupid and ignorant in fact, that you don't even know that "fall winter spring summer" are the nominal 'seasons of the year' in certain parts of the world and they have nothing to do with "climate". Saying that "the earth cools and warms as it pleases" is just a kind of insane and very childish anthropomorphism. The Earth warms and cools in response to physical forces and processes. Scientists understand this. You, on the other hand, are a clueless fool. Did you find that discarded brain of yours yet?

 

[Big Fitz]

We have melted 40% of the North polar ice cap in the last 50 years.

CO2 levels are the highest ever recorded, the the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 3 trillion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

Ocean temperatures are the highest ever recorded.

And the feedback effects of less ice and melting arctic methane will make it even worse.

We are warming the earth, my friends.

3 trillion tons?

Wow

That's almost a rounding error compared to the weight of the atmosphere

Come on. Be honest. That's WAY less than a rounding error.

 

[daveman]

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

No one's saying the climate isn't changing, dumbass.

We're saying man has little to do with it, your emotionalism and fear-mongering notwithstanding.

Well sure, you and your denier cult butt-buddies say that, but then you're all ignorant brainwashed retards with your heads wedged firmly up your asses so what you say is just meaningless noise. The world scientific community says that the current abrupt warming trend and the climate changes produced by that warming are definitely being caused by mankind's activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation. Too bad you and your fellow cultists are too stupid and poorly educated to be able to understand the science or to realize how badly you've been duped by the people with a huge financial stake in selling fossil fuels.

See? Nothing but emotionalism. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

Rolling turd, more like running squirt we've always had climate, it's called fall winter spring summer. The earth cools and warms as it pleases. Did you find that discarded data yet?

Wow, bigshthd, you sure are stupid! So stupid and ignorant in fact, that you don't even know that "fall winter spring summer" are the nominal 'seasons of the year' in certain parts of the world and they have nothing to do with "climate". Saying that "the earth cools and warms as it pleases" is just a kind of insane and very childish anthropomorphism. The Earth warms and cools in response to physical forces and processes. Scientists understand this. You, on the other hand, are a clueless fool. Did you find that discarded brain of yours yet?

Running squirt your opinion is not fact. Have you found those discarded data sheets? You know the one the hockey stick one?

 

[westwall]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

If you were as intellectually informed as you claim to be you would know that the current trend began around 1845-1850. But that would be science....and as we all know you don't do science. It interferes with your religion.

 

[RollingThunder]

14 months of weather is not climate.

Too bad you're so ignorant, davedumb, or you might already know that this trend started in the 1980's, not 14 months ago. Over that 10 year period (1980 -1989) the ratio of record hot days to record cold days was only 1.14 to 1. In the 90's the ratio rose to 1.36 to 1 and then in the first decade of the new millennium the ratio rose again to 2 to 1. In 2011 the ratio rose to 2.8 to 1. Now, for this year to date, we seeing a ratio of 14 to 1. If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Over 30 years of increasing high temperatures and decreasing low temperatures is quite definitely a reflection of a changing climate.

If you were as intellectually informed as you claim to be you would know that the current trend began around 1845-1850. But that would be science....and as we all know you don't do science. It interferes with your religion.

LOLOLOL....oh walleyedretard, why do you always embarrass yourself like this? You're the anti-science cult-nut with nothing but ignorant myths and stupid lies going for you.

The current trend of rising temperatures did indeed begin around mid 19th century after the first big pulse of fossil carbon was emitted during the industrial revolution. The trend of rising temperatures was unexpectedly interrupted in the 1950's, 60's and 70's and temperatures even declined just slightly. Scientists now know that this pause in global warming was caused by particulate and aerosol pollution from burning coal that blocked the energy from the sun, as well as creating other problems like acid rain. As aerosol and particulate emissions were regulated and reduced in America and Europe and other modern nations, but greenhouse gas pollution continued to increase, the cooling effect of the aerosols and high altitude particluates was overwhelmed by the greenhouse gases, and global warming resumed. This is reflected quite accurately in the analysis of record high temperatures versus record low temperatures in America. In the 1950's, the ratio between record highs and record lows was almost even at about 1.09 to 1. In the 60's and 70's, the ratios were actually opposite with record hot days being outnumbered by record cold days in a ratio of about 0.78 to 1. Then in 80's the decline in solar energy blocking pollution cleared the way for the accelerating trend of rising temperatures to continue. In the last decade, particulate and aerosol pollution from Chinese and Indian coal fired power plants has increased enormously and this pollution has once again somewhat suppressed the rise in temperatures for the last decade. Even with that suppression of the solar gain, temperatures have continued to rise and the decade from 2000 to 2010 ended up being the warmest decade on record and 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record. As the Chinese and Indians install better pollution control equipment and clean up their emissions from the current coal fired power plants, the resulting slight decrease in Earth's albedo will accelerate the global warming trend that is being steadily driven ever upward by the still rising CO2 levels.

 

[Big Fitz]

No one's saying the climate isn't changing, dumbass.

We're saying man has little to do with it, your emotionalism and fear-mongering notwithstanding.

Well sure, you and your denier cult butt-buddies say that, but then you're all ignorant brainwashed retards with your heads wedged firmly up your asses so what you say is just meaningless noise. The world scientific community says that the current abrupt warming trend and the climate changes produced by that warming are definitely being caused by mankind's activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation. Too bad you and your fellow cultists are too stupid and poorly educated to be able to understand the science or to realize how badly you've been duped by the people with a huge financial stake in selling fossil fuels.

See? Nothing but emotionalism. Thanks for proving my point.

It's like a twisted version of a Harlan Ellison novel:

"I Have No Facts, and I Must Scream"

 

[uscitizen]

I used my IR thermometer and my records seem to be at room temperature.

 

[Douger]

...Only 33% Think Most Americans Blame Humans for Global Warming - Rasmussen Reports™...

“Global warming” or “climate change”?: Whether the planet is warming depends on question wording - “Global warming” or “climate change”?

In public discourse and survey research, global climate change is sometimes referred to as “global warming” and sometimes as “climate change.” An analysis of web sites of conservative and liberal think tanks suggests that conservatives prefer to use the term “global warming” whereas liberals prefer “climate change.” A question wording experiment (N = 2267) illustrates the power of these frames: Republicans were less likely to endorse that the phenomenon is real when it was referred to as “global warming” (44.0%) rather than “climate change” (60.2%), whereas Democrats were unaffected by question wording (86.9% vs. 86.4%). As a result, the partisan divide on the issue dropped from 42.9 percentage points under a “global warming” frame to 26.2 percentage points under a “climate change” frame. Theoretical and methodological implications are discussed.

Given Rasmussen's record of bias, the nature of population sampled, and the wording of the question,...it all seems pretty much without any clear indication of much of anything.
Regardless, your promotion of political aspects and focus upon uninformed opinions to decide issues of science and fact pretty much self-highlights your confusions and their sourcing.

Simple math tells me 2/3 of uh murkinz are idiots...........quite evident from looking at your (s)election of circus acts hired to run that shithole.

 

[Roudy]

Look it up, in 2008 and 2009 we experienced global cooling. Which is why the global warming nutjobs have now changed the name of their hoax to climate change. Yes there is climate change, no, man is not responsible. The earth goes through these cycles, and, at this time the sun is going through a cooling cycle. There ain't nothing Al Gore, Obama, and the crazy environmentalists can do about it.

 

[RollingThunder]

Look it up, in 2008 and 2009 we experienced global cooling. Which is why the global warming nutjobs have now changed the name of their hoax to climate change. Yes there is climate change, no, man is not responsible. The earth goes through these cycles, and, at this time the sun is going through a cooling cycle. There ain't nothing Al Gore, Obama, and the crazy environmentalists can do about it.

You have been misinformed and misled on this subject.

2008 was the 12th warmest year on record for the last 160 years. 2009 was the 7th warmest year. No "cooling", you poor deluded dupe. 2010 was tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record.

Scientists have referred to both global warming and climate change for over three decades. The IPCC, or Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, was established in 1988, Mr Retardo.

Your ignorant opinions on the cause of the current abrupt global warming/climate changes are meaningless. The world's climate scientists, who actually know what they're talking about, are very clear that it is mankind's carbon emissions and deforestation practices that are driving this warming trend that is causing the climate changes.

The Earth's climate does go through long slow natural cycles but what is happening now is beyond the bounds of natural variability and is not part of any natural cycle.

And finally, you're wrong again, retard, the sun has entered a solar maximum period that is expected to peak in 2013. You're obviously a clueless idiot.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Look it up, in 2008 and 2009 we experienced global cooling. Which is why the global warming nutjobs have now changed the name of their hoax to climate change. Yes there is climate change, no, man is not responsible. The earth goes through these cycles, and, at this time the sun is going through a cooling cycle. There ain't nothing Al Gore, Obama, and the crazy environmentalists can do about it.

You have been misinformed and misled on this subject.

2008 was the 12th warmest year on record for the last 160 years. 2009 was the 7th warmest year. No "cooling", you poor deluded dupe. 2010 was tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record.

Scientists have referred to both global warming and climate change for over three decades. The IPCC, or Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, was established in 1988, Mr Retardo.

Your ignorant opinions on the cause of the current abrupt global warming/climate changes are meaningless. The world's climate scientists, who actually know what they're talking about, are very clear that it is mankind's carbon emissions and deforestation practices that are driving this warming trend that is causing the climate changes.

The Earth's climate does go through long slow natural cycles but what is happening now is beyond the bounds of natural variability and is not part of any natural cycle.

And finally, you're wrong again, retard, the sun has entered a solar maximum period that is expected to peak in 2013. You're obviously a clueless idiot.

Let's take a vote on who has been misinformed you or us?

 

[skookerasbil]

Look it up, in 2008 and 2009 we experienced global cooling. Which is why the global warming nutjobs have now changed the name of their hoax to climate change. Yes there is climate change, no, man is not responsible. The earth goes through these cycles, and, at this time the sun is going through a cooling cycle. There ain't nothing Al Gore, Obama, and the crazy environmentalists can do about it.

You have been misinformed and misled on this subject.

2008 was the 12th warmest year on record for the last 160 years. 2009 was the 7th warmest year. No "cooling", you poor deluded dupe. 2010 was tied with 2005 as the warmest year on record.

Scientists have referred to both global warming and climate change for over three decades. The IPCC, or Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, was established in 1988, Mr Retardo.

Your ignorant opinions on the cause of the current abrupt global warming/climate changes are meaningless. The world's climate scientists, who actually know what they're talking about, are very clear that it is mankind's carbon emissions and deforestation practices that are driving this warming trend that is causing the climate changes.

The Earth's climate does go through long slow natural cycles but what is happening now is beyond the bounds of natural variability and is not part of any natural cycle.

And finally, you're wrong again, retard, the sun has entered a solar maximum period that is expected to peak in 2013. You're obviously a clueless idiot.

but still nobody cares except the internet ocd's!!!

When is the last time somebody turned on the boob and saw even a news report about "global warming"?? Doesnt happen. Why? Because the whole world reaches for the remote in 2012. The entire planet, for example, now see's Al Gore as a total joke. WHo cares about him these days? The internet k00ks like Rolling Thunder who eat, sleep and drink alarmist, fringe science.


Shit......even a large majoirty of meteorologists think global warming is a crock, but particularly the man-made crap is a farce.

Shock Poll: Meteorologists Are Global Warming Skeptics - Forbes


Also........almost 70% of Americans think that scientists have falsified global warming research...........

69% Say It



The alarmist contingent are losing in spectacular fashion in 2012. The American people find watching paint dry to be more intersting than global warming in 2012.



Indeed, since 2007, the concerns of the public related to global warming has shifted dramatically and has been falling every since year since. Fucking with all the data certainly hasnt helped.

Fewer Americans See Solid Evidence of Global Warming - Pew Research Center



Can anybody say, "Escalator down??"

 

[saveliberty]

Hey Faithers, what is hurricane season going to be like this summer? Where will droughts occur? Who will have excess rain? Where will it be warmer? Cooler? Use your model and predict.