Mother has kids kidnapped from her,she in return kills CPS agent.

[Papageorgio]

Officials Mom who lost custody kills kids services worker - WRGB CBS6 - Top Stories

GOOD JOB MOM! What ANY parent should do. These sons of bitches are nothing but domestic terrorists and deserve ANYTHING like this that happens to them.

The mother is pretty stupid, now she will never get her kids back and she took a life.

Pretty sad story.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

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So you have no actual experience in the field. OK thanks for admitting that. All you have is a self assessment of a "knowledge of psychology" I don't give a fuck whether or not you believe me. You should be ashamed that you are perpetuating lies and fear mongering with your horseshit. CPS saves lives. I don't even own jack boots whatever the fuck they are.

Like this one?

What the fuck is your point with that? Shit happens. You're just dredging up whatever crap you can find to smear CPS regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with the topic. Seems like desperation.

 

[ogibillm]

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So you have no actual experience in the field. OK thanks for admitting that. All you have is a self assessment of a "knowledge of psychology" I don't give a fuck whether or not you believe me. You should be ashamed that you are perpetuating lies and fear mongering with your horseshit. CPS saves lives. I don't even own jack boots whatever the fuck they are.

Like this one?

What the fuck is your point with that? Shit happens. You're just dredging up whatever crap you can find to smear CPS regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with the topic. Seems like desperation.

only because it is

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I believe we should be LICENSING parents before they're allowed to have kids and inspecting the homes of every family on a,montgly basis to ensure proper upbringing of the kids.

one of the reasons i vociferously oppose homeschooling. at least when the kids have to go to school they can be observed for signs of neglect and abuse

Of course you do. All power to the state! Now I'm getting a better grasp on your angle here. Presuming that homeschooled children are being abused, no wonder you want CPS kicking in doors often and it angers you when there's any reprisal.

do you think that there aren't parents out there that 'homeschool' their kids to hide abuse?

No, I really don't. That's your Left wing socialist bias wanting to incarcerate all children in government schools so YOU can do the abusing.

L.A. schools pay 139 million settlement in abuse cases - CNN.com

Children are far better off with their own parents than the pedophiles your schools hire to teach them.

well we've already established that you're a batshit fucking insane cat killer and murder supporter, why should we think you'd have a rational view of schools?

do you home school your kids?

Why, do you want to call CPS?

They go to private school.

 

[ogibillm]

one of the reasons i vociferously oppose homeschooling. at least when the kids have to go to school they can be observed for signs of neglect and abuse

Of course you do. All power to the state! Now I'm getting a better grasp on your angle here. Presuming that homeschooled children are being abused, no wonder you want CPS kicking in doors often and it angers you when there's any reprisal.

do you think that there aren't parents out there that 'homeschool' their kids to hide abuse?

No, I really don't. That's your Left wing socialist bias wanting to incarcerate all children in government schools so YOU can do the abusing.

L.A. schools pay 139 million settlement in abuse cases - CNN.com

Children are far better off with their own parents than the pedophiles your schools hire to teach them.

well we've already established that you're a batshit fucking insane cat killer and murder supporter, why should we think you'd have a rational view of schools?

do you home school your kids?

Why, do you want to call CPS?

They go to private school.

i just wouldn't have been surprised, that's all.

so when you killed someone's cat because you were mad, do you think that was good parenting?
if your kid came home and told you that they killed a classmate's hamster because the kid accused them of cutting in line would you be okay with that?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You're part of the problem this thread addresses. How many children have you removed because they were allowed to walk to the store alone or because they snuck a little booze from a visiting uncle? More than you'll admit here, that's for sure. I had one of you fucks show up at my door because sometimes we don't wear clothes in the house. I'm sure that I'm just like a lot of your victims now that CPS has expanded well beyond genuine cases of abuse or neglect where immediate intervention is required.

Not me, I'm a nudist too.

So what would you do if you were sent to a home because they are clothing optional?

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia
Petition Legally Kidnapped By CPS child protective services Change.org

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Of course you do. All power to the state! Now I'm getting a better grasp on your angle here. Presuming that homeschooled children are being abused, no wonder you want CPS kicking in doors often and it angers you when there's any reprisal.

do you think that there aren't parents out there that 'homeschool' their kids to hide abuse?

No, I really don't. That's your Left wing socialist bias wanting to incarcerate all children in government schools so YOU can do the abusing.

L.A. schools pay 139 million settlement in abuse cases - CNN.com

Children are far better off with their own parents than the pedophiles your schools hire to teach them.

well we've already established that you're a batshit fucking insane cat killer and murder supporter, why should we think you'd have a rational view of schools?

do you home school your kids?

Why, do you want to call CPS?

They go to private school.

i just wouldn't have been surprised, that's all.

so when you killed someone's cat because you were mad, do you think that was good parenting?
if your kid came home and told you that they killed a classmate's hamster because the kid accused them of cutting in line would you be okay with that?

I don't think it's anywhere near the same thing as somebody threatening you with the removal of your children. Want to try another hypothetical more scaled to the discussion?

 

[ogibillm]

Not me, I'm a nudist too.

So what would you do if you were sent to a home because they are clothing optional?

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home.

where did you get this batch of lies?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Not me, I'm a nudist too.

So what would you do if you were sent to a home because they are clothing optional?

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

 

[ogibillm]

do you think that there aren't parents out there that 'homeschool' their kids to hide abuse?

No, I really don't. That's your Left wing socialist bias wanting to incarcerate all children in government schools so YOU can do the abusing.

L.A. schools pay 139 million settlement in abuse cases - CNN.com

Children are far better off with their own parents than the pedophiles your schools hire to teach them.

well we've already established that you're a batshit fucking insane cat killer and murder supporter, why should we think you'd have a rational view of schools?

do you home school your kids?

Why, do you want to call CPS?

They go to private school.

i just wouldn't have been surprised, that's all.

so when you killed someone's cat because you were mad, do you think that was good parenting?
if your kid came home and told you that they killed a classmate's hamster because the kid accused them of cutting in line would you be okay with that?

I don't think it's anywhere near the same thing as somebody threatening you with the removal of your children. Want to try another hypothetical more scaled to the discussion?

so it's okay for you to kill a pet in revenge but you wouldn't condone your kids doing it?
how egregious must a false accusation be to warrant a pet's death?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

So what would you do if you were sent to a home because they are clothing optional?

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

 

[ogibillm]

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That would not likely happen unless there were other concerns about the children. If they are all just walking around naked out of public view it is not anyone's concern

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

Don't see any link yet.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Well that's all that happened in our house and no they weren't in the front yard. Though we've moved to a rural location where the neighbors are further away, though they don't mind seek our kids starkers. This former neighbor upped the ante when nobody would respond just for a naked family and alleged abuse. You should try to imagine what it's like to be on the other side of your visits, especially when citizens feel empowered to bring you there through an anonymous tip. We were parents doing nothing wrong, yet there you people were. And the horror stories of CPS removing children for stupid reasons puts a general sense of fear into informed parents that the government can whimsically take their children.

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

And yet a sitting U.S. senator gave a list of recommendations including the removal of financial incentives for removing children. Funny how you think a senator is proposing it if it isn't happening.

 

[ogibillm]

You were dealing with stupid spiteful, lying neighbors. CPS can't be responsible for that and they have to respond to all allegations because some are real. That is just the way it is. I explained previously why children can't be removed arbitrarily and yours were not either , right? You admit that "horror stories " put fear into parents but YOU are responsible for spreading those stories when all that CPS is doing is trying to protect children who need it.

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

And yet a sitting U.S. senator gave a list of recommendations including the removal of financial incentives for removing children. Funny how you think a senator is proposing it if it isn't happening.

that's a georgia state senator, not a us senator.
do you have any actual proof that there is such an incentive? most states require that the pay for state employees be made public.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Say, how are you spending those child removal bonus checks? New jacuzzi?

Legally Kidnapped By CPS (child protective services)

housands of families are being torn apart by CPS. CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home. Have you ever noticed the children the make the news are the ones that have been killed, molested, tortured and treated like animals, actually worse then animals. Have you ever stopped and really listened to what the media has said about them, i have that CPS was involved and they were trying to keep the family together, this really is disgusting, because the truth is these are damaged children and CPS cant place them in homes. They need healthy children emotionally and physically. They also come from families that don't have the means to hire an attorney that will fight CPS.That's why the media will not interview us about my grandchildren. They haven't been abused and aren't news worthy. Please help me to get this out there, we are not the only ones going through this. If we all stand together we can make a difference.

Here is a list of reccomendations Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer had wanted to impose upon CPS and I believe we should help her to get these changes made. her voice was silenced due to an apparent murder/suicide after she started to expose CPS for the corrupt government organization that they are.

RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Call for an independent audit of the Department of Family and Children’s Services
(DFCS) to expose corruption and fraud.
2. Activate immediate change. Every day that passes means more families and children
are subject to being held hostage.
3. End the financial incentives that separate families.
4. Grant to parents their rights in writing.
5. Mandate a search for family m... embers to be given the opportunity to adopt their
own relatives.
6. Mandate a jury trial where every piece of evidence is presented before removing a
child from his or her parents.
7. Require a warrant or a positive emergency circumstance
before removing children from their parents. (Judge Arthur G. Christean, Utah Bar
Journal, January, 1997 reported that “except in emergency circumstances, including
the need for immediate medical care, require warrants upon affidavits of probable
cause before entry upon private property is permitted for the forcible removal of
children from their parents.”)
8. Uphold the laws when someone fabricates or presents false evidence. If a parent
alleges fraud, hold a hearing with the right to discovery of all evidence.
Senator Nancy Schaefer
50th District of Georgia

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

And yet a sitting U.S. senator gave a list of recommendations including the removal of financial incentives for removing children. Funny how you think a senator is proposing it if it isn't happening.

that's a georgia state senator, not a us senator.
do you have any actual proof that there is such an incentive? most states require that the pay for state employees be made public.

I don't know if the bonus filters down to the boots on the ground...it was why I was asking PP if she was getting a check.

And when children enter the system, CPS needs more money and gets it, probably more than what's needed. Time to be rational so you can see it for yourself.

 

[ogibillm]

What is this horseshit! I cant get through to you. You don't even provide a source

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

And yet a sitting U.S. senator gave a list of recommendations including the removal of financial incentives for removing children. Funny how you think a senator is proposing it if it isn't happening.

that's a georgia state senator, not a us senator.
do you have any actual proof that there is such an incentive? most states require that the pay for state employees be made public.

I don't know if the bonus filters down to the boots on the ground...it was why I was asking PP if she was getting a check.

And when children enter the system, CPS needs more money and gets it, probably more than what's needed. Time to be rational so you can see it for yourself.

so you don't have a source that says that "CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home"

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

And yet you conclude it's horseshit? I just added the link. This is honest testimony from one of your victims.

you linked to a petition... that's not proof of anything, especially proof of the outright lie that cps agents get a 'bonus' check for removing kids

And yet a sitting U.S. senator gave a list of recommendations including the removal of financial incentives for removing children. Funny how you think a senator is proposing it if it isn't happening.

that's a georgia state senator, not a us senator.
do you have any actual proof that there is such an incentive? most states require that the pay for state employees be made public.

I don't know if the bonus filters down to the boots on the ground...it was why I was asking PP if she was getting a check.

And when children enter the system, CPS needs more money and gets it, probably more than what's needed. Time to be rational so you can see it for yourself.

so you don't have a source that says that "CPS gets a bonus every time they remove a child from their home"

No rational thought, huh? You don't see how children who are put into the system require more money? Does common sense really need a link?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

FOSTER CARE SYSTEM TRAPS CHILDREN INTO VICIOUS CYCLE OF SEX ABUSE

Lee Ann McAdoo
Infowars.com
August 1, 2013

The FBI raid that rescued 105 sexually exploited children from a sex trafficking ring last weekend has highlighted the vulnerability of foster children

Sixty percent of runaways who arevictims of sex trafficking had been in the custody of child protective services.

Many times when children are rescued from sex traffickers they are put right back into the foster care system to repeat the same vicious cycle.
Victims may even recruit other children into the very abuse they had just left.



With the “child protectors” snatching even more children into the system to get more federal funding, there has become a serious shortage of good foster parents to handle the surplus of children, which means the bar has been set really low for people who can qualify to foster.

A 2011 audit of Sacramento Foster Care facilities found the addressees of more than 1000 registered sex offenders matched the addresses of licensed foster-care facilities and homes.

Almost 600 of those offenders were considered high risk.

The report identified a number of factors endangering these children, including a failure to thoroughly and promptly investigate reports of neglect.

Those who are paid to protect children couldn’t care less about their safety so long as the feds come through with the
big bucks.

Sex traffickers prey on helpless children who feel abandoned by their families and lost in a system of providers that don’t bother to follow up on reports of neglect.

These are the type of children that are easily groomed for child sex slavery and prostitution.

The demand for child sex trafficking is even greater now that sex-trafficking and pedophila have moved out of isolation and into a worldwide internet-based community of people who share images and techniques.

According to the International Center For Missing And Exploited Children (ICMEC), of the millions of pornographic images on the internet, 10% are of infants and toddlers, while 76% are of pre-pubescent children.

Let that sink in.

Almost 90% of all porn on the internet is of exploited children.

That’s why the Global Center For Women and Justice has said that “human trafficking is far more lucrative than the sale of drugs or arms because the children involved are considered reusable assets.”

The consumers are not who you would suspect, according to the ICMEC, “They are doctors, lawyers, business executives, teachers, coaches and everyone in between. They don’t look evil.”

Indeed, you can still get a government contracted job even if you’re a convicted pimp.
Even though George W. Bush enacted a law banning contractors who buy and sell humans from federal work, zero prosecutions have taken place.

Foster Care System Traps Children into Vicious Cycle of Sex Abuse Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind

Organized trafficking requires systemic corruption and as the FBI’s sting operation proved, it’s a very sophisticated network operating globally.

A United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime Report states that the opportunities for corruption exist in a chain that includes police, customs agents, intelligence/security forces, local officials, persons with influence on public officials and the list goes on and on.

These people aid in the criminal activity by not only ignoring it but also by actively obstructing an investigation and helping to organize the trafficking process.

PressTV reports that rogue elements of police and intelligence services, as well as organized crime outfits, use blackmail as a means of control.

They employ child prostitution rings to obtain blackmail material on politicians, judges, military and intelligence officers, and other key power-brokers.

Consider the case of Craig Spence, a Republican powerbroker in Washington who according to the Washington Times was implicated with a call-boy ring that supplied young boys to the Washington Elite of both political parties.

Spence’s mansion was found to be overflowing with surveillance equipment, including hidden cameras, microphones and an abundance of two-way mirrors.

The Washington Times further alleged that the ring was part of a CIA sexual blackmail operation, gathering compromising evidence on Washington politicos and foreign dignitaries.

“The Finders” is another notorious CIA-linked child pimping ring.

After two men were arrested for brutally abusing six children between the ages of three and six, an investigation led police to warehouses in Washington, D.C., where they found evidence of a global child trafficking network as well as proof that large numbers of captive children were being used in blood rituals and sexual orgies.

Barrett writes that Agent Ramon Martinez of the US Customs Service and Detective James Bradley of the Washington, DC police were horrified at what they found. They were even more horrified when their investigation and attempted prosecution of the Finders was called off – by the CIA!

According to Agent Martinez’s report, the case of the Finders was deemed “a CIA internal matter” and all details were “classified secret and not available for review.”

Former CIA Director William Colby told Nebraska State Legislator John DeCamp that the CIA was heavily involved in ritual child abuse.

He informed DeCamp that the abused children were being used in CIA mind-control experiments as well as blackmail projects.

What became known as “The Franklin Scandal” was a nationwide pedophile ring that implicated businessmen, senators, major media corporations, the CIA and the Boys Town organization.

In a 2012 interview with The Ellis County Observer, DeCamp recalls how his investigation into the Franklin Scandal linked him with another high profile pedophile, salacious Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky.

“One of Sandusky’s contacts was here in Omaha,” DeCamp said.

“Somehow those Pennsylvania people knew about it from my book; they said ‘you brought it up in your book.’”

Earlier media reports established Sandusky as the figurehead for a more sinister role of providing children to wealthy and prominent donors.

Sandusky founded The Second Mile in 1977, serving underprivileged and at-risk youth.

It was here that he met his molestation victims.

The world is no doubt a better place after the arrest of 150 low-level sex traffickers, but the FBI must take their investigation all the way to the top and bring down the elite pedophile organizations that continue to be too powerful for prosecution.


Foster Care System Traps Children into Vicious Cycle of Sex Abuse Alex Jones Infowars There s a war on for your mind

 

[SAYIT]

It's maternal instinct. I wish it would happen more often, especially when the reason for taking children out of the home is ridiculous.

In America's large cities kids are abused by parents with "maternal instinct" ... often abused to death. Who and how should we protect those kids from the parents "maternal instinct?"